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3331
« on: January 31, 2016, 08:57:38 PM »
Sad that I used it for school? It was a legitimate prescription; try reading a textbook and having to read the same line over and over because you can't retain it. I know you hate mind-altering substances, but I would've pegged you as someone fully in favor of a drug that improves cognitive ability and rationality. I never said I wasn't in "favor" of it--just that it's sad. I agree that it should be available OTC. I just wish people could function efficiently without all this bullshit.
I guess...seems kind of derogatory to say it's 'sad', given that ADHD is a legitimate disorder. (I don't have it; I had similar symptoms from compounding stress and other personal stuff going on.)
3332
« on: January 31, 2016, 08:34:25 PM »
I'm close to finishing it but it's just dragging on.
3333
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:45:06 PM »
I got A's on every test during the semester I took it. tbh it should be OTC.
Pretty sad tbh fam
Sad that it's not OTC?
No
Sad that I used it for school? It was a legitimate prescription; try reading a textbook and having to read the same line over and over because you can't retain it. I know you hate mind-altering substances, but I would've pegged you as someone fully in favor of a drug that improves cognitive ability and rationality.
3334
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:39:56 PM »
I got A's on every test during the semester I took it. tbh it should be OTC.
Pretty sad tbh fam
Sad that it's not OTC?
3335
« on: January 31, 2016, 07:33:39 PM »
I got A's on every test during the semester I took it. tbh it should be OTC.
3336
« on: January 31, 2016, 06:21:28 PM »
I'm not even sure how this relates to the original discussion. Obviously we all understand the scientific method and the arguments of the past two pages have largely been pointless. Meta originally stated that more information leads to better decision making, as if that justifies unethical science. I responded that gathering information isn't the ultimate goal of science, and it spiraled into irrelevance.
There has yet to be a meaningful discussion about Meta's original thesis.
Cadenza: "Think axiomatically, the simplest kind of science is just the maths behind science, that's your foundation, then once you have your foundation you build it up and add new details, ethics being added when you start considering living things. But that was my point, you add the ethics afterwards, it's a correction not an axiom."
Math isn't a science, at least by typical academic standards. The idea that science has to be removed of bias and is therefore devoid of ethics is nonsense -- our justice system also strives to be impartial but is, itself, literally a system of ethics. The scientific method itself is an example of ethics applied to science.
3337
« on: January 30, 2016, 04:42:12 PM »
do you all have shitty sleeping patterns and only revise like 3 days before your exam?
Why do Brits call studying 'revising'?
3338
« on: January 30, 2016, 04:32:39 PM »
How bad is the comedown of adderall?
I took it for a semester and had no side effects. Don't just take it for the test, take it when you study and go to class.
What day would you recommend I do the main study session with it? Like how many days before the test? I would think a few days before because I'd want a good nights sleep before the test day
Well I had a prescription, not a limited supply, so I could just take it on a regular schedule. It takes maybe an hour to kick in, so just before you want to study. It wasn't uncommon for me to study the night before a test on my evening dose, wake up, and take the test on a morning dose. Adderall never kept me up at night, mostly because I always stayed up late anyway using caffeine.
3339
« on: January 30, 2016, 04:29:19 PM »
How dare you, don't say that about your life
Do you have ANY idea why my equipment is scrolling on its own?
It's fucked me over at least three times in a row now.
Any chance you're just thumbing the d-pad when switching weapons?
3340
« on: January 30, 2016, 04:25:56 PM »
How bad is the comedown of adderall?
I took it for a semester and had no side effects. Don't just take it for the test, take it when you study and go to class.
3341
« on: January 30, 2016, 01:27:03 PM »
Basically everything
3342
« on: January 30, 2016, 01:12:30 PM »
NYT Editorial Board endorses Clinton *cancels subscription* half-endorses Kasich *half-renews subscription*
3343
« on: January 29, 2016, 08:45:46 PM »
I would totes bang Lil.
 You disgust me.
3344
« on: January 29, 2016, 06:29:43 PM »
Highschool never ends.
The best (or worst) part is that none of it matters when it's done.
3345
« on: January 29, 2016, 05:50:42 PM »
This is what happens when you take random pills your bros say will get you jacked.
3346
« on: January 29, 2016, 12:39:52 PM »
The same studio that did Coraline, Paranorman, and Box Trolls. Here's hoping it's better than the latter. Looks great now, though.
3347
« on: January 29, 2016, 12:28:02 PM »
What happened to this thread?
3348
« on: January 29, 2016, 12:07:41 PM »
>crash car
>stumble out in shock
>gets shot for no fucking reason
>instinctively clutches the wound
>gets shot again and dies
By the way, the man wore his pistol on his RIGHT, yet he grabs his LEFT
Supposedly he had a gun in his jacket pocket, which is convenient. Also convenient that he chose to crossdraw instead of draw from his hip.
3349
« on: January 28, 2016, 05:45:16 PM »
Bees. They're like the puppies of the insect world, but I hate 'em.
3350
« on: January 28, 2016, 03:18:26 PM »
Hypothesis: a capacitor's discharge can be modeled with an exponential function
This may be your question, but it's a poorly structured hypothesis (something like that wouldn't even be accepted as a basis for research). Your hypothesis would actually have to be, "a capacitor's discharge can not be modeled as an exponential function".
3351
« on: January 28, 2016, 02:50:50 PM »
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/scientific-method
A method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses: "Science is only about acquiring valid data that can confirm/disprove hypotheses"
No hypothesis can be positively proven; science seeks to compile evidence against a null hypothesis to establish further evidence of an alternate hypothesis. You demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific method by believing it can prove anything; science exists solely to disprove.
I still don't know what this petty argument has to do with your claim that science exists to gather data. As your flowchart pointed out, that's just one of my facets of the scientific method.
No shit that's why I said "confirm" not "disprove". You can confirm a hypothesis
No, you can't. This is some grade-A semantics-based damage control. You cannot confirm a hypothesis, as science is founded on the concept that any hypothesis can be overturned by sufficient evidence. Literally anybody who has presented statistical research can tell you that this is a very basic principle of hypothesis testing. And this still has nothing to do with your original statement that the sole purpose of science is to gather as much information as possible. And on topic, Meta, I'm still interested in hearing about any particular example you had in mind when you made this thread.
3352
« on: January 28, 2016, 02:39:40 PM »
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/scientific-method
A method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses: "Science is only about acquiring valid data that can confirm/disprove hypotheses" No hypothesis can be positively proven; science seeks to compile evidence against a null hypothesis to establish further evidence of an alternate hypothesis. You demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding of the scientific method by believing it can prove anything; science exists solely to disprove.I still don't know what this petty argument has to do with your claim that science exists to gather data. As your flowchart pointed out, that's just one of my facets of the scientific method.
3353
« on: January 28, 2016, 02:14:25 PM »
Notice the distinct lack of the word "ethics".
Arguing that science isn't concerned with ethics because a 5th-grader's flowchart of the scientific method doesn't say "ethics" is incredibly facile.
3354
« on: January 28, 2016, 02:09:10 PM »
That is the very definition of the scientific method.
"Science is only about acquiring valid data that can confirm/disprove hypotheses so as to inform theories that allow for the collection of more data, repeat ad infinitum" This is not an accurate definition of the scientific method.
3355
« on: January 28, 2016, 01:46:28 PM »
But to make things crystal clear: Science is only about acquiring valid data that can confirm/disprove hypotheses so as to inform theories that allow for the collection of more data, repeat ad infinitum.
This is a very odd and incomplete way of describing science, and I think you'd find that not many scientists agree with it.
3356
« on: January 28, 2016, 01:27:27 PM »
I don't see anything about him being fired at all.
"Stepping down" is a polite way to say the board fired the CEO.
3357
« on: January 28, 2016, 01:18:11 PM »
pursue something designed to facilitate our making better-informed decision
Science isn't about getting as much information as possible
I would argue that that is the only purpose of science; hypothesis -> evidence -> theory -> repeat.
Why would you think science was anything but that?
Because it just isn't. No reputable scientist designs an experiment to just gather as much data as possible; extraneous data is a hindrance to the scientific method, not an aid. A proper study or experiment should be focused, controlled for bias, and within the scope of a specific hypothesis. We see this from investment strategy to systems engineering -- more data is not at all correlated with higher success, and is often entirely unnecessary. Probability distributions exist because systems can be modeled very accurately without being perfectly analyzed (for instance, a random sample of 2,000 people is far more than is necessary to model the entire country).
3358
« on: January 28, 2016, 12:58:27 PM »
dp
what is this cryptic-ass shit
Double post.
3359
« on: January 28, 2016, 12:28:19 PM »
dp
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