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Serious / Re: Debate Number 2
« on: October 09, 2016, 08:26:41 PM »
No power because of the hurricane; is this worth watching afterwards?

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The Flood / Re: I respect donald trump more after that recent audio leak
« on: October 09, 2016, 04:22:56 PM »
We need a strong MAN whose not afaird of GRABBING PUSSY when women CONSENT to it

Trumps gonna grab Putin's puSSY and bring piece to the medium east

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Serious / Re: Trump being a strong, powerful, male businessman
« on: October 09, 2016, 07:08:45 AM »
Donald trying to have consenting sex with other women.
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grab their pussy

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The Flood / Re: Anime is a legitimate form of artistic expression
« on: October 08, 2016, 07:19:30 PM »
Hey Verb, check out Baccano! sometime. Solid anime without the shonen tropes. English dub, of course.

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Gaming / Re: Overwatch
« on: October 08, 2016, 05:49:11 PM »
$50 says Sombra is a Spy knockoff. Invisibility is pretty much already confirmed.

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The Flood / Anime is a legitimate form of artistic expression
« on: October 08, 2016, 04:24:22 PM »


Big, jiggly artistic expressions.

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The Flood / Holy shit what happened to Richard Dean Anderson
« on: October 08, 2016, 01:42:09 PM »


Colonel O'Neil chunked up a bit.

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Serious / Re: Trump being a strong, powerful, male businessman
« on: October 07, 2016, 09:02:42 PM »
Clearly this is an anti-Trump liberal bias in reality

We all know this is a hit piece by the liberal rag, WSJ

Also, something something Bill Clinton is also a misogynistic perv so it equals out

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Serious / Trump being a strong, powerful, male businessman
« on: October 07, 2016, 08:13:50 PM »
http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-lewd-comments-about-women-spark-uproar-1475886118?mod=e2fb

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In the recording, Mr. Trump said: “You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women—I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.…

“And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.…Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything,” Mr. Trump added.

Mr. Trump also referred to a married woman whom he said he tried to seduce: “I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try and f—her.…”

“I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married,” Mr. Trump said in the recording. “Then, all of a sudden, I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trumps-lewd-comments-about-women-spark-uproar-1475886118?mod=e2fb

YouTube

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The Flood / Re: "A Minute To Breathe" -- Reznor, Ross and Santaoalla
« on: October 07, 2016, 06:56:26 PM »
Cool stuff. I see what you mean with the AATCHB thing--which makes me happy, given that it's my favorite NIN song.

I'll watch Before the Flood just for the music. I respect Leo's environmentalism, but I question just how much he could bring to the table. We all know the world's slowly dying--what else needs to be said by a famous Hollywood actor?

tbh the kind of person that needs an actor to inform their opinions about major issues is a lost cause to begin with.

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Serious / Re: Putin Banner on the Manhattan Bridge
« on: October 07, 2016, 06:50:56 PM »
Putin is a peacemaker to naive idiots who don't follow up on the Syrian conflict
He's a warmonger to those who only listen to the Western media

Russia is Western, though
They're Western in culture since they're European, but generally when it's referred to as "the west", it more so means NATO allies.

"Western media"

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:53:37 PM »
You might like H89SA. His whole channel is interesting or amusing bits from Live ATC. Kennedy Steve (JFK night shift ground controller) vids are everyone's favorites.

I listen to a lot of ATC but don't follow anyone in particular. I like the hydraulic press channel though, that shit's real fuckin neato.
he needs to subscribe to ME
Guess who I just subscribed to?

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Serious / Re: Putin Banner on the Manhattan Bridge
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:48:41 PM »
Putin is a peacemaker to naive idiots who don't follow up on the Syrian conflict
He's a warmonger to those who only listen to the Western media

Russia is Western, though

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:44:00 PM »
I wouldn't consider anything I do a guilty pleasure, but feel free to judge my subcriptions.

Holy shit I hate YourMovieSucks

He's okay.

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:39:34 PM »
I wouldn't consider anything I do a guilty pleasure, but feel free to judge my subcriptions.
Your subscriptions suck. I can tell because we don't have a single one in common.

I don't use YT for too much. What're yours?

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The Flood / Re: Youtube Guilty Pleasures?
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:10:49 PM »
I wouldn't consider anything I do a guilty pleasure, but feel free to judge my subcriptions.

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The Flood / Re: LOL Max got cucked
« on: October 07, 2016, 11:49:42 AM »
Avoid gluten, avoid high fat nuts.
Check your blood type. Certain vegetables / fruit work better with different blood types.
Don't eat carbs (fruit) at least two hours after eating protein.
Drinking more water helps with cleansing the kidneys.
Use certain good supplements. Pro biotic. Digestive enzymes. Garlic supplements.

This is 100% bogus broscience

Fats from nuts are very healthy, the veggie/blood type myth is naturopathic pseudoscience, your body doesn't care when nutrients are absorbed, your kidneys don't need extra water to be "cleansed", and 99.9% of supplements are useless alongside a healthy diet.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 08:12:52 PM »
I'm not going to defend the movies to death; on a realistic scale (and I know I've fucked around with number ratings, and I don't really like quantifying a movie's quality), I'd give most of them a 6 or 7 out of 10 -- average (judging the movies, not their cultural impact). There are a lot of thematic and plot issues to be critiqued, but I don't think the OT even wants viewers to care about that. It's more about the few characters that are on screen, struggling through relatively personal and small conflicts (even though they span multiple planets, the same exact scenarios could be conceived of in a small town, a la spaghetti westerns). The prequels certainly do branch out from a small space drama to a much broader scale, and I think that may be specifically why you appreciate them more than the OT.

Because despite what Turkey seems to think, it adds a lot of previously-nonexistent nuance to the Force
Genuinely interested: like what? And regardless, when I said it doesn't add much to the story, I didn't mean it doesn't add much nitty-gritty to the lore -- I mean in a narrative and character sense, it did nothing new, merely polishing aspects of the past 6 movies. It skips the hero's journey Luke had to go through for Rey and Kylo is Anakin 2.0 (and that's a good thing), though I'm surprised you don't take issue with the same premise of an evil organization that we're just supposed to accept; there's really no explanation for the state of the republic, the resistance, or the first order.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 07:35:02 PM »
This is getting excessive.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 07:18:51 PM »
Thanks Yoda.

So, the Dark Side is bad because it's easier and more aggressive, which is bad because it's bad. Got it.

That's pretty much exactly how you're supposed to feel, and is how Luke is feeling at the time. Then he goes to Cloud City, falls into the trap, gets his buddy Han captured and everyone else almost killed, gets his ass kicked and his hand cut off, and ends up falling nearly to his death -- all because he tried to rush to confront Vader out of fear and anger. Yeah it's lucky that it's a film, and protagonists generally don't die, but the point still stands that Yoda presents the hypothetical light vs dark consequences, and then Cloud City demonstrates how that actually works in the Star Wars universe.
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No believably intelligent character would allow themselves to be seduced by the Dark Side.
Is your issue with the concept in general? There are myriad examples in EU. "Seduced to the dark side" is no more than a euphemism for evil. You can't see how any character would be tempted to participate in the Empire's activities or pursue power, greed, revenge, etc. under any circumstance?
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it's just an over-simplified bastardization of morality

I'm not sure why you keep stating this, while also talking about how the prequels changed this. It's a saga; the movies aren't meant to be standalone stories in a vacuum, apart of the rest of the story. Lucas was heavily influenced by classic stories of heroes and villains, particularly westerns (including a few Kurosawa films). The OT presented a perspective of the Force, romanticized by the main character and nobody else. To Han it's a myth; to Kenobi, it's lost mysticism; to Yoda it's the entirety of the universe; to Vader, it's a means to power; to the Emperor, it's a method of control. And all of that is canonically after the prequels spelled out how wrong the Jedi were in interpreting the Force.

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The Flood / Re: It's just a forum, I don't care
« on: October 06, 2016, 06:09:47 PM »
"People who say they don't care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don't care what people think."

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 06:02:50 PM »
The bad guys are bad because they're bad, and that's it. No effort by the original films are made to let the audience understand how anyone could possibly be """seduced""" by the power of the Dark Side.

tbh I'm not even sure how to respond to this. In ANH there's a scene devoted to the apparent leadership of the Empire arguing the utility and necessity of the Death Star. The Emperor -- the only truly "bad for the sake of being bad" character in the OT -- barely exists until RotJ. Vader's motivations and character are fleshed out thoroughly in Empire, and more so in Jedi; yes, the decision to make Vader a more important character and Luke's father was not determined before writing the script, but it wasn't some last-minute alteration before releasing the film.

No effort is made to explain the "seduction"? The entirety of the events in Dagobah explains it, and is then presented to the audience practically through Cloud City. Yes, unlike the prequels they don't sit down in a room and look at the camera and tell the audience how morality works in their universe, but Luke fleeing Dagobah out of fear of losing his friends, and the entire fight with Vader are a strong metaphor for the struggle. He's afraid of losing, afraid of dying, afraid of being too weak, unwilling to accept Vader as his father -- all of it is an expression of how "the dark side" relates to common fairytale themes and concepts.

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 04:33:50 PM »
>people still unironically consider Empire to be the best star wars movie

this meme needs to die
ANH is the only one you can even make an argument that it is better. None of the others even come close.
Every single other film in the series is vastly better than Empire. Especially the prequels.

ANH is only marginally better.

This thread is about favorites, not quality. How do you justify the claim that 5 is the worst in the series?

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The Flood / Re: sweet baby jesus
« on: October 06, 2016, 03:47:24 PM »
I've been into Port wine lately.

Any recommendations?

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The Flood / sweet baby jesus
« on: October 06, 2016, 03:41:58 PM »


Chocolate peanut butter porter

post your poison, losers

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The Flood / Re: Now that the dust has settled
« on: October 06, 2016, 03:17:09 PM »
Empire
Jedi       
<——————-Anticipated spot of Rogue One 
ANH
Clones
Revenge
Awakens
Phantom

Note that this is my favorites list, not what I would consider the "best", and probably changes frequently. I like Jedi a lot because of nostalgia, but recognize it has serious narrative flaws that ought to put it lower, and while I do like TFA, I respect that RotS and AotC were more original and added more depth to the Star Wars universe. TFA did almost nothing to improve the story of Star Wars, and did quite a bit to set it back.

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The Flood / Re: Your preferred black tea.
« on: October 06, 2016, 02:36:56 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Your preferred black tea.
« on: October 06, 2016, 01:45:54 PM »
English Breakfast or Earl Grey, for sure.

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Gaming / Re: Destiny/Rise of Iron
« on: October 06, 2016, 09:29:34 AM »
I'll just hold off until Destiny 2 comes around, then.

So much for the 10 year plan.

Isn't the 10 year thing for the franchise? Destiny 2 is supposed to be out sometime next year; I don't think they ever intended for the game that's out now to last that long. I imagine they intend for characters to transfer over in some way, not that it matters much since your character is basically a lifeless robot among millions.

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Gaming / Re: Destiny/Rise of Iron
« on: October 06, 2016, 09:23:52 AM »
It's pretty much just strikes, raid, Iron Banner and Trials

Just read a couple reviews and it sounds pretty boring. I'll just hold off until Destiny 2 comes around, then.

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