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Serious / Re: Trump's conflicts of interest
« on: November 14, 2016, 12:45:18 PM »
He'll just end up putting his assets in a blind trust for the duration of his presidency. It won't be a big deal.

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I'm going go try to save this botched abortion of a thread:

High-ranking Democrats Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer have both endorsed Keith Ellison as DNC chair.

Peggy Noonan wrote a good op ed on this subject prior to the election, and I'll post it here later.
It's later.

P-please?

It's behind a paywall, and I have it in print so I can't copy and paste it here, but here's a picture of the article.
Spoiler

I recommend you open it in a new tab so you can expand it.

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The Flood / Re: Starting the atkins diet tomorrow
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:16:31 PM »
Current weight and estimated BF%?

I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.

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Serious / Re: Mike Pence didn't support gay conversion therapy
« on: November 13, 2016, 05:13:13 PM »
While Pence certainly doesn't have the best record on LGBT rights, I'm struggling to find evidence that he supports conversion therapy.

As I said, it comes down to what you deem "sexual behavior". Sexuality or simply risky sex.

One of the biggest issues Clinton had in the campaign was not only constantly refuting or attacking Trump rather than spreading her on messages, but also wildly exaggerating claims. I sincerely doubt Pence considers conversation therapy a legitimate part of any platform, but he and Trump do have a track record of being anti-LGBT rights and that is worthy of criticism. We don't have to turn him into mini-Hitler to demonstrate that they're not good for gay rights.

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What happens when you have a full decade dominated by right-wing policy? The Great Depression, apparently.

The Great Depression was caused almost exclusively by poor management by the Fed, established only 17 years before the stock market crash by a democratic Congress and president, and was worsened by terrible protectionist policy by the reactionary democratic Congress of the 1930s and FDR's New Deal.

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Gaming / Re: Overwatch
« on: November 13, 2016, 03:12:27 PM »
I legitimately think Widowmaker should be removed from comp on consoles. She's insta-locked in almost every game, and she's basically useless.

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Weird. It's almost as if the problem with the black community is the black community.

Black communities certainly do have a responsibility to care for their kids and prevent gang violence, but this is more of a criticism of leftist activists that leveraged the plight of black citizens for political purposes and in effect caused the problem they were co-opting.

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Gaming / Re: I bought Dark Souls 3
« on: November 13, 2016, 02:42:18 PM »
Gotta wail on him two-handed while he's transforming.

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Full article here: http://www.city-journal.org/html/chicago-blood-14773.html

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By early September, homicides in Chicago for 2016 were up 47 percent over the same period of 2015, a year in which crime was already up significantly over 2014; nonfatal shootings were also up 47 percent. On Labor Day, nine people were killed, completing a holiday weekend tally of 13 shooting fatalities and 51 nonfatal shooting victims.
“There is no way out of this shooting spree,” Angelo said. His despair is understandable because Chicago is the country’s most glaring example of what I have called the “Ferguson effect.” Chicago officers have cut back dramatically on proactive policing, under the onslaught of criticism from the Black Lives Matter movement and its political and media enablers. Pedestrian stops in Chicago dropped 82 percent through September 27, 2016, compared with the same period in 2015. The cops are “driving by people on the corners,” Angelo tells me. “They’re not sweeping the corners clean any more.” As a result of this drop in discretionary enforcement, criminals are back in control and black lives are being lost at a rate not seen for decades.
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Further discouraging stop activity in Chicago is a misguided agreement signed in 2015 between the Illinois ACLU and the former police superintendent, mandating that all stop forms filled out by Chicago officers be forwarded for review to the ACLU, an organization not known for its unbiased evaluations of police activity. Also contributing to Chicago de-policing is the backlash from city hall’s mishandling of the unjustified fatal police shooting of Laquan McDonald in October 2014.
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But neither Johnson’s lax gun-sentencing explanation for the Chicago violence surge nor the media’s poverty-and-systemic-injustice explanation gets the timing right. Chicago’s violent crime started rising sharply in 2015 and continued into 2016. Sentencing protocols didn’t weaken in late 2014; gangbangers with guns got the same criminal-justice treatment before violence started rising as after. Nor did poverty or alleged racism worsen after late 2014. What did change was the intensity of antipolice ideology, driven by the Black Lives Matter movement, relentlessly amplified by the press, and echoed by President Obama.

Of course there are socioeconomic issues that may reduce crime in areas like this farther down the road, but railroading police into not doing their jobs has had a much more immediate negative impact.

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Serious / Mike Pence didn't support gay conversion therapy
« on: November 13, 2016, 10:07:06 AM »
Preface: I don't support Trump, but clarifying widespread misinformation should be seen as politically neutral.

http://www.snopes.com/mike-pence-supported-gay-conversion-therapy/

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The allegation dates back to 2000, when Pence was running for Congress. His campaign web site at the time touted his call to add a stipulation to the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency (CARE) Act, a 1990 law providing funding for HIV/AIDS treatment for patients living with the disease lacking either the income or the necessary insurance to pay for it on their own:

Congress should support the reauthorization of the Ryan White Care Act only after completion of an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus. Resources should be directed toward those institutions which provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior.

AKA, wearing condoms and limiting the number of sexual partners, which should be recognized as basic sexual health education, which some clinics do fail to provide.

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Serious / Re: Trump's cabinet
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:17:57 PM »
Ugh, Pence denies evolution too. Simple fact is school is for science not God. Religion doesn't belong in government, if you want laws dictated by religion go move somewhere else.

He doesn't explicitly deny it, he's just of the breed of noncommittal Christian milquetoasts that claims they "don't know". Still bad.

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It hasn't even been a week. I think people are allowed a bit of time to come to grips with it. It happens every election.

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Serious / Re: Trump's cabinet
« on: November 12, 2016, 06:46:50 PM »
I'd legitimately hope for an impeachment if he supported this hypothetical list, but until anything official is released I don't see the point in speculating.

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Gaming / Re: NES Classic Edition Sold Out
« on: November 12, 2016, 06:27:53 PM »
Yeah, you can still get hyped for the new production of the Genesis.

Nintendo > Sega

Okie dokie, thanks for this valuable observation.

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Gaming / Re: NES Classic Edition Sold Out
« on: November 12, 2016, 06:14:39 PM »
Yeah, you can still get hyped for the new production of the Genesis.

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Peggy Noonan wrote a good op ed on this subject prior to the election, and I'll post it here later. It boiled down to a criticism of how the Democrats (the party, not the citizens) have been obsessed with attaining power at the expense of a real platform. Obama managed to harness that with the ACA, but beyond that Democrats don't really have much going for them in terms of policy. They jump from one minority to the next, trying to stir them up and promise rights or welfare of some sort, and then blame republicans when it doesn't work. So from here, the Left really needs to redefine American liberalism more than just refuting Trump's platform.

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Serious / Re: Question regarding Egypt and secularism
« on: November 12, 2016, 11:33:29 AM »
I can't see Egypt being a valuable ally any time soon.

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The only thing holding back the patriarchal rape urges are the semi-annual SAPR briefs.

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Oh yeah, now we wanna nerf the presidency. I've only been saying that FDR's gross expansion of presidential power was a mistake for the past ten years...

Tfw you trick liberals into favoring small government by electing Trump

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Serious / Re: Trump's cabinet
« on: November 11, 2016, 07:14:57 PM »
Are there sources for any of these beyond pure speculation?

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Gaming / Re: Elder Scrolls
« on: November 11, 2016, 01:00:09 PM »
Morrowind was my first Xbox game, and is my favorite game to this day.

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Serious / Re: What is stop and frisk, and why is it a big deal?
« on: November 11, 2016, 12:04:45 PM »
It's a problem because blacks and Latinos were grossly overrepresented in those targeted, and accomplished little.

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Serious / The Case Against Democracy
« on: November 11, 2016, 09:58:30 AM »
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/07/the-case-against-democracy

A lengthy essay detailing various modern theories about democracy, representation, and the duty of voting. This will take around ten minutes to read, and I encourage you to read it in its entirety.

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But maybe voting is neither commons nor market. Perhaps, instead, it’s combat. Relatively gentle, of course. Rather than rifles and bayonets, essentially there’s just a show of hands. But the nature of the duty may be similar, because what Brennan’s model omits is that sometimes, in an election, democracy itself is in danger. If a soldier were to calculate his personal value to the campaign that his army is engaged in, he could easily conclude that the cost of showing up at the front isn’t worth it, even if he factors in the chance of being caught and punished for desertion. The trouble is that it’s impossible to know in advance of a battle which side will prevail, let alone by how great a margin, especially if morale itself is a variable. The lack of certainty about the future makes a hash of merely prudential calculation. It’s said that most soldiers worry more about letting down the fellow-soldiers in their unit than about allegiance to an entity as abstract as the nation, and maybe voters, too, feel their duty most acutely toward friends and family who share their idea of where the country needs to go.

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The Flood / Re: What is the perfect breakfast?
« on: November 11, 2016, 09:07:03 AM »
Bless the Brits

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Young Turks pls go

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Serious / Re: Juncker won't shut up about this European Army he wants
« on: November 10, 2016, 04:47:41 PM »
They're not wrong. US can't play caretaker forever.

Why not? We're the best suited for it.

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Trump doesn't have smallpox, he's got hyuuugepox. Very bigly. People he knows-- ask anyone; they'll tell you he's got the most tremendous smallpox.

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Serious / Re: Now for the $20,000,000 question:
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:30:47 PM »
Kind of a poor argument, since the same could be made about voting against the winning side in a pure democracy (which, it's important to point out, doesn't exist in any Western country).
Sure, if you're going to boil down democracy to 'canceled out votes' (a cancerous attitude promoted by establishment types to discourage turnout).
...That's exactly what you're saying. I completely disagree that just because one doesn't vote with the winning side, that their vote is unheard or meaningless.

"Secondly, under the electoral system, the folks who don't vote with the flow of their state are essentially going unheard."

You are literally saying that under our system, votes not in line with the majority (which is how electoral votes are allotted except in Maine and Nebraska) are unheard, or cancelled. The electoral college is essentially a statewide popular vote, appointing a head of the federal government. This is essentially how federations work.

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I've yet to see a valid argument in favor of that.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed68.asp

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Serious / Re: Now for the $20,000,000 question:
« on: November 09, 2016, 07:16:23 PM »
Federalist paper #68 provides a cogent argument in favor of an electoral college, but another thing to consider is that state by state, neither candidate won the popular vote but lost the electoral vote.
Secondly, under the electoral system, the folks who don't vote with the flow of their state are essentially going unheard. Anyone who voted for Trump in a state like New York effectively wasted their vote.
Kind of a poor argument, since the same could be made about voting against the winning side in a pure democracy (which, it's important to point out, doesn't exist in any Western country).

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The Flood / Re: I have no sex drive now fml
« on: November 09, 2016, 05:52:40 PM »
Trump's win really has Jive Jr down, huh?

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