lol the government don't give a shit if you download some songs or movies, nor will you get into any trouble with the authorities for it

It's still illegal.

cipe complaining about things that don't matter meme

apex lel

even worse

Coming from a conservative, this is a compliment.

Quote from: Verbatim on August 13, 2015, 04:33:02 PM

Quote from: I regret participating on August 13, 2015, 04:31:07 PM

It's almost like a moral obesity.

i bet you've just been waiting to say this

And I bet you've still got your bowlcut.

Ignoring for the moment the fact that I've never had one.

It's almost like a moral obesity.

i bet you've just been waiting to say this

Maybe it's Trigger Meta Day.

on that note

• Wants to raise corporation tax to fund free higher education.

sweet

Your definition of what's fun and what isn't is not law.

Explain to me in detail how cheating makes the game more fun, then.

You're gonna fucking fail so fucking hard.

Meanwhile, allow me to explain precisely why playing the game properly is infinitely more fun and rewarding than cheating could be, because you're apparently too fucked in the head to figure it out yourself.

Developers spend many months carefully crafting these games. Every little thing in the game was created by somebody, and it's all meant to be observed and enjoyed. If I'm walking myself into a new area, I'm going to absorb each and every little bit of it that I can, not only to immerse myself in the game's world and narrative, but to appreciate all of the subtle nuance that the developer's put into the game at the game's pace.

No one likes to grind--but it's all part of the game. Taking away grinding by speeding through the entire game is taking away all that nuance, all the experience, and all the immersion. What used to be a long, arduous, yet rewarding journey is now a ten minute victory given to you on a silver platter, with no real work, effort, or passion involved.

All these precious moments I have from my childhood of searching for hours in tall grass in search of ONE rare Pokémon--sure, I hated searching for that long, but if I could just expedite the whole process, it would have lost ALL its value. The value would have been destroyed completely.

If you don't see the value in subtlety, or nuance, or patience, or adversity, or "the journey", but you DO see value in ruining all that? Just for a quick victory? Then you're just too stupid. And I'm a destination type person.

Simply saying "Cheating is wrong because cheating=wrong" is what I meant about non-critical thinking.

Well, it's a good thing I never actually did that, then. Lying shithead.

That's not how I meant it.

"I say things that I don't mean."

How intelligent.

Except you can't run out of that game. It's endless.

Games can be broken or lost or sold or given away. If you want another copy, you should buy it again. Piracy just makes you a thieving cunt.

"Only my opinion matters because I'm a boy scout who doesn't want to break the rules." - Verbatim

I could say that I enjoy seeing piss on the Mona Lisa. I don't, but regardless of what you think, my opinion is just as valid as yours.

Bullshit. Opinions are nothing but SHIT. You have to BACK THEM UP.

And you've failed to do even do that.

If you CAN'T back it up, or if you back it up POORLY, then your opinion is as good as wrong.

To be honest, I expected this.

I just don't see the point in stuff like this unless it harms me physically or economically. Like if you have a good running country with a good government running it would you just start a revolution just to "test" it?

Or a forum like this one that already has a team monitoring it. I just don't see the point.

I think think he's just goofing off with the invisible thing anyway. I didn't think the "fuck the system" response was 100% serious, but if it is, then he's going about it in a relatively harmless way. *shrug*

MY experience.

Yes. Your shitty experience that is worse off than someone who's played the game right.

Um... I only started emulating in the last couple of years. Meaning, I've played all of the games straight before I ever "cheated". So... it's not like I don't have a frame of reference on "fun."

"I've paid for Cheez-its before, and I liked them, so I don't need to pay for them now."

Because it's my prerogative as the player to enjoy the game however I see fit?

Lol. I don't know how many other ways I can phrase this.

Ruining games is an objectively bad way to enjoy them. Ruining art is the exact opposite of appreciating it, and if that's HOW you appreciate it? You're wrong.

It's your prerogative to be wrong.

And as you so "eloquently" put it, you have to put limitations on your cheating as to not go overboard ("Level 100 Charizard before the game even begins.")

Then why cheat at all? Because as you so "eloquently" put it: "durrrr FUN FUN!"

Not good enough. The game is MORE fun if you DON'T cheat. So why cheat?

You've yet to actually justify this statement at all.

I probably did it 4 or 5 times by now, actually, yeah.

Quote from: Verbatim on August 13, 2015, 01:44:33 PM

Yes, it is. If you have a copy of the game, there's no reason you'd just buy it again, unless you felt bad about stealing it.

I mean, if you do that then cool I guess, but a lot of people, if they like the game, will go on to support the series further.

I mean if he likes this, the he'll get to the point of where he'll have to get a DS/3DS seems you can't emulate them yet, and that will start driving sales.

Actually that's a point, the original DS supported gameboy games. That might be the best way to get into the series.

Or just pay for it. Like everyone else.

You could change it by proving your assertion, actually.

I don't see how something having no negative side effects can be a bad thing.

Because you're taking away from the experience of the game. This isn't that complicated. Maybe if you played the game properly, you'd see that it's a lot fucking better if you don't ever cheat. Ever.

Actually it's being phased out of the most recent Pokemon games. They're making grinding less and less necessary thanks to stuff like Super Training and EXP shares.

So go and play those, then. They were apparently made for you.

Grinding is necessary to enjoy the other parts of the game, sure. But just speeding it up is of no consequence.

How the fuck isn't it.

nuzlockes require the same sort of limitations as cheating. They both require you to say "Okay, here, I draw the line. Here, I won't do this." etc., etc.

What? The POINT of cheating is to REMOVE limitations.

Cool man.

And it's a lot fucking more fun, and appreciative, than what you're doing.

Except there wasn't a problem until you created one.

Cheating is ALWAYS a problem. I haven't created anything.

Not really. Nobody is losing anything by downloading a ROM.

Except a sale.

Verb being condescending while completely missing the point

Classic

He doesn't have a point. He says, "Yes, I'm a cheater, I don't care, it doesn't hurt anyone, I like to have fun, I'm a dumbfuck egoistic human." That's all he said. What am I supposed to say to that.

Nothing is being stolen though.

You know, except a game.

I've become lost in my own thread. What is going on? What does an emulator even look like?

It's virtual. It's a program that you download (illegally, I'll say again). It'll pop up on your computer screen as a window.

If you have any ROMs downloaded (which are easy enough to find), you use the emulator to load them up.

Quote from: Revolver Snake on August 13, 2015, 12:31:17 PM

They're hard (expensive) to get new

On Amazon, you can get FireRed for $30 and Crystal for $25. They aren't that expensive, especially in comparison to other Nintendo games.

To be fair, he said "new". But, as I illustrated, that doesn't matter to me anyway.