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32851
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:50:28 AM »
Oh, you were trying to make a thread.
I think my initial response in your oops-post answers this adequately.
In short, it's a waste of life no matter what you do with it.
You can try to argue that using it for food is a "better" use of it, but is it really? We have the marketplace.
32852
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:40:31 AM »
I dun goofed again/ignore
Oh. Umm. Should I discard my response, then?... Spoiler My sister and her husband, who is more meat inclined, does something different however. We're scavengers. There are hunters up here, who only hunt for trophies. They will literally kill an elk, or a moose, saw its head off, and leave the rest there.
It's an absolute waste. And that's where they get 90% of their meat from. The same can be said of somebody else I know. He's even worse, if you want to say. He scavenges roadkill. I'm not trying to justify anything here.
But I'm curious. What's your stance on something like that?
Trophy hunting? Yeah, it's absolutely unconscionable. I've no respect for it whatsoever. Hunting for food is really no better, because we have the market for that. If you don't have an income, get one. If you can't get one, well shucks, that's really shitty. I don't know too many people who have no access to any sort of job. But anyway... This is another discussion I've had with Pendulate here. As you can see, we have different approaches when it comes to veganism. Before, I was okay with hunting for as long as you used the animal for food--but not for trophies. Pendulate was making the argument that hunting for food is really no better than trophy hunting. Because at the end of the day, an animal that didn't need to be killed was killed, and there's no way to justify that. I'm inclined to agree with him. People will always make the argument that hunting is necessary to sort out population issues. I don't buy that, but all I can do is hypothesize. I lack the sources/numbers to really prove anything--I'm not terribly well-learned on the subject of hunting.
32853
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:23:58 AM »
This thread made me think that I'm the worse possible outcome. The fact that I'm fully aware and in acceptance of the moral and ethical transgressions and still eating meat rather than someone that is ignorant of the fact makes me worse than them I feel. So I'm just going to stop making excuses and I guess mark today as the first day of not eating meat. We'll see how this goes. Remember this for me is an issue of convenience more than anything. I can't just run down to McDonald's and get something cheap and quick. But goddamn when I say it like that it really is possibly the shittiest excuse out there.
I wish you luck, man.
32854
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:13:54 AM »
Fthrow to Bouncing Fish (do it from the ground, don't jump) is a true combo at low percents, in case you were both unaware.
Yeah, I know. Mostly, I just have trouble edgeguarding with it. I don't understand how anyone can land it over the edge when they can just air-dodge every time.
32855
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:10:25 AM »
For a more concrete example of your mentality, there was that time back on Bnet before I was a vegan, where I said that, though I wasn't a vegan, I'm still a vegan advocate. I made it clear that, though my transgressions weren't absolved, I still recognize that I'm a thieving selfish asshole, but I'm all for future generations taking up veganism.
Your response to this was, bluntly, that I was useless to the cause. <_< You have a do-or-die mentality.
Be a piece of shit, or be a vegan. That's your rhetoric. That's your whole narrative.
I say fuck that. I say, as long as Korra's an advocate (which I'm sure she is, given her thoughts on the subject), it doesn't really matter to me a whole lot if she actually is a vegan. In the sense that, well, maybe because of her influence, she could maybe inspire someone else to become a vegan. And that's good!
But it's not good enough for you, for... some petty semantic reason. Hmm.
So yeah, drop that mentality, if you want to avoid being, well, toxic to the cause. You have to be open.
32856
« on: August 18, 2015, 11:00:58 AM »
Then what's the point of having a discussion in the first place? To persuade someone into considering** a life of veganism, in this case. Considering the sheer number of variables there are in a discussion like this, there are numerous possible outcomes. You're upset because the outcome wasn't desirable for you. That's fine, but there's nothing you can do about it. **Considering Keyword. You're not looking to convert anyone--you're looking to get someone thinking about their life choices. Why should getting someone to admit their transgressions (while also admitting to no desire to change) be the goal of an interchange? Did I say that was the goal? No. All I'm saying is that, at that point, you've reached an impasse--one of many possible. I'm sure you're familiar with that term, but it means that you've come to a point where further discussion would be fruitless. It's the point at which you "agree to disagree". (Because to me that sounds like close to the worst outcome a discussion could have) Tough. That's life. You don't always get what you want. I don't think I need to tell you that, either. You've always had this do-or-die mentality when it comes to the philosophy I have no idea what that means. Gonna need an example.
It's not that complicated, is it? I could've said "my way or the highway" and you still might have been confused. This is what I'm talking about when I find you obtuse--you're just very slow to understand not only basic terms at times, but also... basic social etiquette. It makes me wonder how well you get along with people in real life. Anyways... Nothing is ever "good enough" for you, that's what I'm saying. Korra could have said that she considered herself to be just another selfish cog in the machine who is completely owned by her psychological desire--a true statement, and one that not many people are willing to make, but you would still take issue with that, because she's blaming it on her psychology, and not her "self". Newsflash--there is no self. There is brain function. There is a mind addicted to meat. Try asking someone who is addicted how much agency they have over their bodies. Admitting that your brain is an addicted mess is a completely noble thing to say, but it's not good enough for you, because... I don't know, vapid pettiness over semantics. You're absolutely correct in saying that just because we live in a deterministic universe, that doesn't alleviate responsibility. We still have to do the right thing. But... we still live in a deterministic universe. If you fail to convince someone to do the right thing, that's just the way it is. Either try harder next time, or realize that you can't put someone into total submission by arguing. Veganism has to be a personal decision--ain't nobody's gonna become a vegan just because you got them to say, "I'm a piece of shit," in the precise way that you like it.  You're not gonna turn Korra into a vegan. It's a losing battle--stop fighting. Let her decide for herself what she does with her own life. If she chooses veganism down the line--great. If she doesn't, oh well. She's one person. It's a waste of precious time. Is this a view you've only recently adopted? Yes.
32857
« on: August 18, 2015, 01:26:12 AM »
30th December 2058
Better make the most of the 43 years I have left!
i would have expected yours to be higher what, do you smoke or something
32858
« on: August 18, 2015, 01:09:11 AM »
http://deathdate.info/d/71688a1a1cbdc/SmFjb2IgUG90aWxh"...by its predictions you will live exactly 65 years, 3 months and 15 days" Predicted Death Date: 24 january 2061 Time left: 45 years, 5 months and 7 days my death will involve: - terrorism - alcohol - fire
32859
« on: August 18, 2015, 01:00:49 AM »
But it's $20 on Amazon, how can I beat that price?!
Maybe bundle it with a few other games you're willing to let go of (if any)? or draw your best image of solid snake and throw that in--"exclusive rare special artwork included" LOL boost the value by like, $5-10
32860
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:50:23 AM »
you know what to do now, ar
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32861
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:44:03 AM »
How do people not know what games they own (not counting Steam sale hoarders)?
because she has hundreds
and doesn't play any of them
that implies that the vita has more than 10 games
she's also a weeb so that boosts her options by about ten billion
32862
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:41:59 AM »
How do people not know what games they own (not counting Steam sale hoarders)?
because she has hundreds and doesn't play any of them
32863
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:41:23 AM »
lol
my dad does this all the time with records and NES games
32864
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:38:36 AM »
And on that note, I'm being boring, I know. I apologize.
it's 'cause you don't have an avatar, bro you've stared into the abyss--now it stares into you or some shit
32865
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:36:20 AM »
]It was an overall improvement in the series.
understatement it's easily in my top 50
32866
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:32:46 AM »
Did you ever watch Danny Phantom, Korra?
Yeah I have 
yeeeee I just thought--maybe I'd be just like Clockwork. Living within another dimension, being sort of a caretaker of time. Anything catastrophic happens--I go back and prevent whatever small happenings that may have caused it. Maybe mess around a little bit--see what the world would've been like if Hitler was never born. Stuff like that.
32867
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:28:19 AM »
#WorththeWeight
32868
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:24:44 AM »
Did you ever watch Danny Phantom, Korra?
32869
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:23:16 AM »
This is the best scene in any movie ever that involves the minigun
mmhm i just saw that again with a couple of friends who had never seen it before one of my friends said he enjoyed it, but thought some of sarah connor's dialogue was really cringeworthy like, every single time she tried to make a philosophical point, or whatever oh, and he didn't like how the terminator came back to life he's silly--he doesn't understand how '90s movies work
32870
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:20:00 AM »
Okay, I mean I just wanted to know if people's moralities and ideals would conflict when given absolute power and stuff.
I would like to think that mine wouldn't! But it's like saying, "If I had a million dollars, I'd spend it responsibly," or "I'd donate it all to charity." So I mean, who knows. Maybe I'd turn into the most evil cunt ever out of sheer spite.
32871
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:16:03 AM »
You could always alter your taste instead of straight up destroying it. It would be great if fats didn't taste good.
ah... i wonder how much research has been put into that
32872
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:12:42 AM »
No, you're making it sound like I'd have no objection if her admission was unconditional. The only difference is I wouldn't have been prompted to challenge her on it if it was.
You seem to be of the view that we should commend people for having the "courage" (or something) to admit to their transgressions. And I don't agree if they're only doing it to make themselves feel more comfortable about them.
I'm not commending anyone--I'm just saying, the point at which someone does admit to their transgressions is the point at which discussion should end. There's no real need to "challenge" anyone, just because they failed to meet your stringent criteria for concessions. You've always had this do-or-die mentality when it comes to the philosophy, and I never liked that. I know from experience that "challenging" people is only going to cause them to become frustrated with you, and even less likely to cooperate with you. It's not great for the cause. There's a point where you ought to leave it alone.
32873
« on: August 18, 2015, 12:03:01 AM »
Sapor = sense of taste
Oh.
Yeah, good idea. I'd like to acquire anosmia, personally.
But then I couldn't smell vanilla, and that's not the kind of world I can choose to live in.
The nice thing about it, though, is that it would also mitigate my sense of taste, without completely shutting it down. Because while I, too, could do without my sense of taste, there are some flavors I'm not sure I'm willing to give up, either.
32874
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:57:44 PM »
Browbeating her until she takes "full, unconditional responsibility" isn't going to accomplish much, when, psychologically, she's close enough, in my book. I just think you're being petty. Well I wouldn't commend someone for taking full responsibility either. Why should I?
lol so what the fuck are you even...
32875
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:55:02 PM »
you know one of those zingers that you come up with hours after the argument has long been over with, and you're frustrated that you can't go back in time and say it
i had one of those moments
i can't remember what it was i thought of, but you'd have to be in the heat of it anyway
32876
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:51:49 PM »
Sapor = sense of taste
Oh. Yeah, good idea. I'd like to acquire anosmia, personally.
32877
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:49:13 PM »
Well, it's hard for me to disagree with the idea that humans are just pieces of shit at their core.
So, from my perspective, she's being as honest as possible.
I'm not denying the truth of it. I'm saying it's a justification nonetheless.
It's kind of like appealing to determinism. "Hey, I'm causally determined to eat animals, okay?" I don't think it's unfair to say that that's an attempt to alleviate responsibility.
It's not unfair, no. But what are you gonna do about it? Browbeating her until she takes "full, unconditional responsibility" isn't going to accomplish much, when, psychologically, she's close enough, in my book. I just think you're being petty. Just throwing out there the fact that people and nature can be pretty, but they both suck giant schlong. I'll be the first in line for sapor surgery when it's an actual thing.
I'm not sure what that is.
32878
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:40:00 PM »
dick move to show their gamertag tbh
32879
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:35:41 PM »
Well, it's hard for me to disagree with the idea that humans are just pieces of shit at their core.
So, from my perspective, she's being as honest as possible.
I reject the notion that we are wholly free agents.
32880
« on: August 17, 2015, 11:29:09 PM »
Blast semen all over your mountain ranges and piss on you when the clouds obscure your view of me up in the sky.
SEMEN STAINS THE MOUNTAINTOPS
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