Ready to point out every failure and oppose every policy that I see as anti-American? Sure. But I believe in the USA, and that we'll survive him.

And that's where we differ. I don't even want America to survive this.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 15, 2016, 07:36:41 PM

Quote from: Luciana on November 15, 2016, 07:32:46 PM

People are so damn melodramatic

Even as someone who didn't want Trump to win, some people just bitch and bitch and bitch about things that will never effect their daily lives. Maybe pay attention on the local level and see who's in office there. Factually speaking, they'll fuck with your lives more.

*affect

Ah, we're at that point of pettiness are we?

but i always correct your typos

and no, i can assure you i can be 100x more petty than that

I don't think it occurs to most people that promoting or opposing gay rights is equivalent to promoting or opposing foot fetish or chubby chaser rights

It means absolutely fucking nothing. It does not matter what turns your cabinet members on, so long as they aren't degenerates carrying out strange shit.

"Sexual orientation" is a load of horseshit. Everybody has sexual preferences. Making it a part of your identity is probably one of the most retarded, autistic things you can do.

sure, but the important difference is that no one has ever been denied their rights for having a foot or fat fetish, so i don't really care much for that comparison, but i see your point and mostly agree with it

People are so damn melodramatic

Even as someone who didn't want Trump to win, some people just bitch and bitch and bitch about things that will never effect their daily lives. Maybe pay attention on the local level and see who's in office there. Factually speaking, they'll fuck with your lives more.

*affect

Maybe the reason why Verb is so anti-Trump is simply because he is secretly a Trump supporter. For example the people who are are strongly anti-gay end up being gay themselves. So for Verb it could be the same scenario.

I don't want shit to do with you if you don't hate Trump as much as I do.

Verb has more salt than the Pacific.

That's like saying the universe has more stars than a galaxy does. It's just a bit redundant.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 15, 2016, 05:49:39 PM

Quote from: Icy on November 15, 2016, 05:48:50 PM

Verb, I'm not quite sure I get what you're still arguing.

The Trump thing, or the New Deal thing?

Trump thing.

http://sep7agon.net/serious/reince-priebus-picked-as-trump's-chief-of-staff/msg1352721/#msg1352721

Not arguing anything--if Trump is a "fuck you" to the establishment, then this is my "fuck you" back.

NEVER my president.

I DON'T ACT HARD, I'M A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW

Quote from: Verbatim on November 15, 2016, 02:32:21 PM

so the trailer for the GHOST IN THE SHELLLLL OOOOOOOHHHh movie came out recently

looks like trash, but fans of the original thing are probably gonna hate it too

so naturally, i'm inclined to find things to enjoy about it

You're the type of dude who will look pissed off murmuring shit under your breath but when someone asks you what, your voice becomes softer than a lamb's orgasm

so the trailer for the GHOST IN THE SHELLLLL OOOOOOOHHHh movie came out recently

looks like trash, but fans of the original thing are probably gonna hate it too

so naturally, i'm inclined to find things to enjoy about it

I'd probably exercise more if maintaining a diet wasn't such a crucial part of it.

Quote from: Verbatim on November 14, 2016, 05:04:34 PM

Should you make your bleak life even bleaker?

wow, that's a toughy

except it doesnt

it makes everything so happy and optimistic

pretend happiness
pretend optimism

then reality comes back harder than ever

kill your collective selves

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 12, 2016, 05:24:06 PM

Quote from: DIO on November 12, 2016, 04:58:05 PM

Quote from: Kitsahri on November 12, 2016, 04:48:46 PM

Quote from: DIO on November 12, 2016, 04:46:12 PM

...Who is that in your avatar, anyway?

Some professional Cosplayer named Alexandre Milette. I found him by chance while ordering circle lenses. He was one of the "real customer" pictures that they put up as an example of how the lenses would look. He does male cosplay too, and I'm not sure if he is actually trans or not.

He's more feminine than most women.

Jesus.

muh
fucking
dick

guys she's not that cute

tries too hard

All you had to do was say "Do either of you have any evidence?", and even if neither of them did I would still be able to direct you to relevant research.

You must have missed this post, then. I'm not directly asking for "evidence" here, but I am questioning Turkey's conclusions and implicitly requesting that he defend or support them (which he hasn't done--but he seems a little preoccupied with some litigation at the moment so I don't blame him).

Come on man, you were being lazy.

I admitted tacitly that I don't know a great deal about economics or history, but I've always been taught that the New Deal played overall to the country's benefit, salvaging us from the depression. When I'm told the exact opposite (as though it's common knowledge), it's not lazy for me to ask a few questions, which I did. When LC popped in and confirmed what I've always been taught, it reassured me that I've not gone batshit, hence my response--"Okay, that's what I've always thought."

There's a reason I tend to trust what little my history teachers have taught me--I assume good faith in my curriculum and understand that, even if what's being said to me isn't the whole truth, still serves as a good fundamental baseline for how I examine and consider the events of my country's history. You're basically claiming that I'm the victim of leftist indoctrination, and that the right totally doesn't just have some kind of persecution complex, where their revisionist ideas are summarily discarded--or "lazily ignored." Naturally, I won't be very receptive to that.

I'm just saying, I'm more inclined to believe what I've always believed and nothing has really been said thus far to shift my views. I'm not arguing with you--I just have a few questions.

Here was your response to LC:

If by "commonly agreed" you mean "shit we teach kids pre-college because we're too lazy to explain it properly" then yeah the New Deal was pretty important. If we're talking about actual empirical work, instead of what our teachers tell us, it becomes far less important.

This communicates to me a lot of mixed messages. You can't seem to decide whether the New Deal ultimately helped out or not. It either did or it didn't. Turkey's original claim was that it played to the country's detriment--exacerbating the depression--and I could've sworn you were on his side. But here, you're arguing that it was "pretty important," if only you look at the situation from a narrow scope, as opposed to looking at "actual empirical work."

But you see, at the end of the day, if it helped, then it helped--right?

So is your argument that some aspects of the New Deal worked out, but most of them didn't? That would make more sense--could you help me understand which aspects of the deal weren't as efficacious? LC sent me a few things to read, as well, so I'll be looking at this from both sides and forming my own conclusions, if you like.