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1771
Why should you?
For the same reason I want my pizza delivered in ten minutes, not thirty.

Won't make much of a difference in the end, but there's no reason I should have to wait.

That's an interesting comparison but it's not really the same, because getting rewarding stimuli as quickly and efficiently as possible is instinct-driven.

1772
But it is merely our perception. Knowing that in reality, it being really no time at all makes the amount of effort required to intentionally bring ourselves to extinction kind of pointless.
I don't care about the super-reality--I care about our reality. Our perception. Why shouldn't I?

Why should you?

1773
There isn't truly a purpose for organisms, life itself is the result of a "monkey with an infinite amount of time and a typewriter" kind of situation, but you can use your advanced brain that we have been blessed with to create a false sense of purpose.
All the more reason to put an end to it.

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Also, why not wait? In reality humans won't be around long, it only seems that way because of our warped perception of time.
Because our warped perception of time is REALLY, REALLY slow. It doesn't really matter.

But it is merely our perception. Knowing that in reality, it being really no time at all makes the amount of effort required to intentionally bring ourselves to extinction kind of pointless.

1774
Someone that rose to power could maybe get somewhere.

But the vast majority of people wouldn't be down with driving the human race to extinction.
the vast majority of people are religious, and there was a time when the vast majority of people might have thought something like "slaves are a necessary part of culture, and society will collapse if we don't have them"

That's different, you see, there's the problem of survival instinct. The only apparent purpose of organisms is to further propagate themselves.

Does it really matter anyway? Eventually humans (as they are now) will disappear one way or another, as will all species currently existing.
Yeah, well mother nature had to build in pleasure so that we would eat and have sex. I'd say it's our choice if we want to reproduce or not with all the knowledge that we possess.

It's not actually our choice. We effectively have two brains, an advanced brain seen in no other organism capable of thinking this and an animal brain that goes off instinct. That is why human behavior is so contradictory -- overeating on a diet, wanting to commit suicide but can't, etc. etc.
It is our choice. People do commit suicide.

Yes, we often have to battle our urges, but the fact that we can battle means that we can win, and if we win it's a choice.

But we still have urges. And people let those urges overwhelm them.

Also, shift the focus from suicide. It was just an example of our survival instinct.

1775
That's different, you see, there's the problem of survival instinct. The only apparent purpose of organisms is to further propagate themselves.
If our only apparent purpose was to throw shit at each other, would you do it?

Or would you take advantage of our enhanced capacity to reason, and try to come up with a more intelligent purpose?
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Does it really matter anyway? Eventually humans (as they are now) will disappear one way or another, as will all species currently existing.
Why wait?

There isn't truly a purpose for organisms, life itself is the result of a "monkey with an infinite amount of time and a typewriter" kind of situation, but you can use your advanced brain that we have been blessed with to create a false sense of purpose.

Also, why not wait? In reality humans won't be around long, it only seems that way because of our warped perception of time.

1776
"oh I don't like your opinion so you're trolling lol"

Your behavior seems to coincide with that of a troll, intentionally baiting people with unpopular opinions to get them all riled up.
is this about me not playing with blocks as a kid

No, why would it be? That's a silly thing to get butthurt over.

1777
Someone that rose to power could maybe get somewhere.

But the vast majority of people wouldn't be down with driving the human race to extinction.
the vast majority of people are religious, and there was a time when the vast majority of people might have thought something like "slaves are a necessary part of culture, and society will collapse if we don't have them"

That's different, you see, there's the problem of survival instinct. The only apparent purpose of organisms is to further propagate themselves.

Does it really matter anyway? Eventually humans (as they are now) will disappear one way or another, as will all species currently existing.
Yeah, well mother nature had to build in pleasure so that we would eat and have sex. I'd say it's our choice if we want to reproduce or not with all the knowledge that we possess.

It's not actually our choice. We effectively have two brains, an advanced brain seen in no other organism capable of thinking this and an animal brain that goes off instinct. That is why human behavior is so contradictory -- overeating on a diet, wanting to commit suicide but can't, etc. etc. 

1778
"oh I don't like your opinion so you're trolling lol"

Your behavior seems to coincide with that of a troll, intentionally baiting people with unpopular opinions to get them all riled up.


1779
So hating someone for being black is worse than murdering someone for being black?
why do people keep talking about murder, you CHOOSE to murder people, it's not something you can't control
I can't decide if you're being serious right now or I'm being trolled

I have a hunch that Class is trolling. His behavior seems to have changed as of late.

1780
Someone that rose to power could maybe get somewhere.

But the vast majority of people wouldn't be down with driving the human race to extinction.
the vast majority of people are religious, and there was a time when the vast majority of people might have thought something like "slaves are a necessary part of culture, and society will collapse if we don't have them"

That's different, you see, there's the problem of survival instinct. The only apparent purpose of organisms is to further propagate themselves.

Does it really matter anyway? Eventually humans (as they are now) will disappear one way or another, as will all species currently existing.

1781
yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.
We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.
which they couldn't control because they were psychopaths
You can get treated if you're a psychopath; not every one of them commits a violent crime. I'm talking about things you literally have no control over (and that don't affect others). People hate people who have certain fetishes, who are interested in the same sex, who have too much melanin in their skin. Those are the things that you truly have no control over.

But they obviously had no control.

1782
Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
actually, it's people like me

You're wrong. People like you are so few and far between that it just isn't feasible.
I don't know, Verbatim's logic converted me into his way of thinking.

We don't need a lot of Verbatims, we only need one that inspires us all.

Someone that rose to power could maybe get somewhere.

But the vast majority of people wouldn't be down with driving the human race to extinction.

1783
yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.
We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.

But what they did was a result of their kinks - no normal person would do what they did.

1784
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.
Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

Islam has affected in me in the most physical sense, actually. I'm not going to go into detail.

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
Calm down, lol

I wasn't expressing anger?

1785
Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
actually, it's people like me

You're wrong. People like you are so few and far between that it just isn't feasible.

1786
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
If you are a properly formed adult - you should have good values and morality. Observe and conclude. If something is bad, you should be able to tell if it is so.

See, that's the problem, we're accepting things that are obviously bad and wrong.

1787
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.
Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

Islam has affected in me in the most physical sense, actually. I'm not going to go into detail.

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.

1788
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.

1789
The Flood / Re: Yo, do you like Freeze Pops
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:13:22 PM »
Here we call them ice poles.

1790
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?

1791
The Flood / Re: Christmas: The Yearly Total Victory to Christianity
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:05:04 PM »
Well, I stand corrected. I think what I meant to say is that holidays like it existed before Christmas came about.
You'd think the 'Christ' in christmas gives it away <.<

I thought it was an amalgamation of other holidays and didn't truly have much originality, actually.

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The Flood / Re: Christmas: The Yearly Total Victory to Christianity
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:47:49 PM »
Christmas doesn't even have Christian origins
I don't know what bothers me more about this kind of comment- how ill-informed it is or how often it is made.

Well, explain, so that I may become informed.
Christmas was developed by Romans and placed at the date it is in order to hijack pagan holidays of the time. However, to suggest that Christmas does not have Christian origins is ridiculous. Christmas was developed very specifically as a Christian holiday to specifically replace the pagan Saturnalia- not as an evolution of it.

Over time, Christmas took on more and more unique traits, becoming a celebration of Christ's birth down the line. As it spread to western and northern Europe, it picked up many pagan traditions as well as people of different cultures adopted and adapted it to their lifestyles.

However, what has remained constant until recent history is Christmas' purpose- the veneration of Jesus Christ, be that in defiance of a pagan majority or in celebration of his birth. It was not until recently that capitalism and consumerism hijacked the holy day and turned it into an economic phenomenon. Christmas in the form most secular people today celebrate may have little to do with Christmas as 4th century Christians celebrated it, but the day is still holy to Christians and largely belongs to them.

TL;DR all Christmas has in common with the roman celebration it displaced is the date, and the pagan traditions we today associate with it were picked up later on as new cultures adopted it.

Well, I stand corrected. I think what I meant to say is that holidays like it existed before Christmas came about.

1793
The Flood / Re: Shame on you, Septagon!
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:42:18 PM »
So guys, tell me -- is this site going to die, and is it time to abandon ship?
it died last year silly

nobody is actually posting here, it's just a figment of your imagination

I knew everyone here was a bot!

1794
You make me want to bash my head violently with a hammer.

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The Flood / Re: Shame on you, Septagon!
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:37:34 PM »
So guys, tell me -- is this site going to die, and is it time to abandon ship?

1796
Niggers are racist chip-on-the-shoulder assholes. I don't mind black people, though.

1797
The Flood / Re: Thoughts on public sex?
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:30:14 PM »
I wouldn't like to do it in straight up public. But I do enjoy masturbating outdoors, especially in the woods. Something about it really turns me on, and the orgasms are just fantastic.

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The Flood / Re: Name a toy better than Bionicle
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:25:35 PM »
i hope they still make these

i wouldn't want any kid to go their childhood without one

Yeah, they rebooted it this year.

Here's a picture of the 2015 Toa;


>That manlet Earth toa
lol

And Ice continues to be alpha.

And there's no surprise that the manlet is the beefiest of them all. I smell compensating.

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The Flood / Re: Name a toy better than Bionicle
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:23:01 PM »
That's just another degree of fun. Don't get hurt.
the looming fear of getting hurt isn't fun
Yeah I'm going to have to side with class.
You were/are pathetic.

I climbed trees and steep hills several stories up.

I remember one time climbing a rock face with my friend, and literally our only belay was holding each others hands.

To get back down we jumped off of the cliff into a tree.

Its the danger that makes shit fun.
I'd rather be pathetic than be a total fucking retard like you.

NOTHING about danger is fun. Nothing.
The chemistry of the human brain literally disagrees with you.

If you don't find danger thrilling you're ACTUALLY autistic, and there IS something wrong with you.

The "thrill" is the adrenaline release. It feels good, but it is used to help us deal with threatening situations/sudden changes.

If you enjoy adrenaline so much, inject it. There IS something wrong with you, intentionally throwing yourself into dangerous situations to get an adrenaline rush.

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The Flood / Re: Shame on you, Septagon!
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:14:04 PM »
I don't think you know what cancer means.

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