That's utterly a non-sequitur.

First of all, kid=/=15 year old. Paedophilia is only paedophilia with somebody pre-pubescent, which is usually classed as somebody 13 or under.

Second of all, 15 year olds are, to a degree, responsible. They, mostly, understand the nature of social media and the internet. Should they be criminally liable for distributing such pictures? No, but they bear a moral responsibility for it. Like walking through Detroit at midnight shining a torch on the fat wad of 50s in your hand.

PSU confirmed for faggot.

Sex because I'm not a basement-dwelling low-life beta cunt.

Did you not realize I was being sarcastic?

I did.

You were implying that was the consequence of Verbatim's logic.

Which I, in turn, called absolutely fucking retarded.

Hell yes, bro! That's kickass.

Fuckin' knew you'd say something like that.

Bump for boredom.

If kids are responsible then it wouldn't illegal for kids to have relationships with older men and women.

That's why it isn't.

Because they fucking aren't.

What.

The.

Fuck.

Are.

You.

Talking.

About.

You.

Whacky.

Cunt.

Nobody here thinks supporting age of consent laws is trolling.

Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 11, 2014, 03:52:39 PM

Again, stop with this shitty method of your's of trying to initiate an argument.

Lol. I have to conclude you're trolling.

You can't try and call somebody out for starting an argument when you said possibly the dumbest fucking thing in your life.

I don't like it.

I see a lot of confession threads pass through here, but not a lot of, what I imagine to be, genuine confessions (although, this isn't a confession thread itself). So, here goes. If you're going to read it, at least read it properly.

I suppose the urge to do this arose from Sandtrap's own cat thread, and a sense of wanting to get it off my chest after some self-reflection and contemplation. But, essentially, I've tortured animals in the past; cats mostly. I won't go into any detail, because I know what a serious issue it is to some, and what a banal issue it is to others. Although, I will, to clarify, mention that I have never used a knife or iron rod or any other such instrument.  And that's the thing, some people hate it and some people don't care. Although, rarely is respect done by such actions.

Empathy, and the expansion of understanding, naturally, leads us to condemn those who torture animals. It seems, intuitively, to be a crime to us. One of the most damnable. I, myself, have pets and wouldn't think of hurting them. I genuinely enjoy the company of my own dog and cat. Animal torture, even to the torturers, isn't completely tolerable.

We all feel a pang, cognitively or emotionally, of reproach when we see such acts. To the more empathetic it's a case of "How could you?", and to the less empathetic it's "Why would you?". I certainly felt disturbed by the video of a girl throwing puppies into a river.

It's difficult to understand the motivations behind such actions unless you, in yourself, feel such urges. I love animals, yet I also enjoy hurting them. I have pets, yet no respect for the pets of others. It's been quite a long time since I last did it, which I find commendable, yet I don't expect or want you to as well.

My reason for this confession, if you like, is a quote I read yesterday from Arthur Schopenhauer: "Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to living creatures cannot be a good man."

While I don't feel a sense of regret, emotionally, for the transgressions I've made against innocent animals, I recognise and accept their undesirability not just socially, but personally too. So, I apologise for them. Schopenhauer is right, the man who tortures animals is of ill character. But I don't want to be that kind of man.

They pretty much represent the apex of human achievement.

However whether or not 9/11 was actually carried out by some ragheads from the desert is for a different thread.

Doesn't matter where they were from; we know their ideology.

If a mod wants to move this to Serious, please feel free. I'm putting it here simply because this is where other 9/11 threads have been, and I'd like it to reach a relatively larger audience.

So, there seems to be a wide range of people, on here and in real life, who seem inexorably quick to blame the West for the actions of these Islamists. It seems as if we've lost some sort of sense of proportion. Have we committed crimes? Sure, things like torture, the horrors of Abu Ghraib, Clinton's bombing of Sudanese pharmaceutical centres and various actions in Viet Nam can all be counted as criminal. It's a shame that these people haven't, in a lot of cases, been held to account.

In the same box, however, lie the Islamists. I'm sure U.S. foreign policy is destructive and provocative, nobody dare doubt it. However, we're talking about the people who've said they'll never forgive the West for not allowing Indonesia to commit genocide in East Timor, and for helping East Timor - predominantly catholic - become independent.

These are pretty much the same people who, barely even a month ago, tried to commit genocide against the Yazidis and who are currently fighting the Kurdish Peshmerga. Genocide: the destruction of a people. These are also essentially the same people who told Thomas Jefferson that they could kidnap and attack American sailors because the Koran allows it.

I'm not going to argue that their beliefs are the main cause of their behaviour; it isn't. A big part of it is to do with the condition of the Middle East, the community offered by such an extremist group, some psychological factors and the sense of justification from having a holy book behind them. Whether or not America is to blame for the rise of these people is largely irrelevant from a perspective of "What do we do?" They're here, they've been here for a while and these people will not stop until they accomplish their aims.

Be that genocide, the establishment of a caliphate or the destruction of the West. The implication that, had we just been nicer to them, it'd all be okay, is as anodyne as it is banal. Whatever their justifications or their morality, the consequences are the same, and they would limit the freedoms history and progress has brought us. And I will not bend my knee to Fascism hiding behind a holy war.

Fuck the implication that the West should stay out of it, and fuck anybody who blames the West for the actions of these psychopathic crusaders.

Read this with Heart of Courage in the background.

Somewhere, deep down, my heart stirred from its slumber.