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1621
« on: March 20, 2015, 12:23:58 AM »
Been working retail for 3 years, going on four.
Get on my level
1622
« on: March 19, 2015, 10:22:22 PM »
"JUSTICE FOR TRAAAAYVON!!!!!"
More like good fucking riddance if you ask me. Either way, George Zimmerman did society a favor. Fucking no good criminals like Trayvon Martin will ALWAYS get one they deserve at the end. Seriously, the kid had it coming, if you're someone that causes trouble and then attempts to beat the shit out of someone to the point where they can die, you can very well lose your own life if that person has a gun.
Oh goodie, perhaps you can dig me up a criminal record for Trayvon besides having some marijuana and getting in a couple scuffles at school. I'll be waiting.
Oh, and killing me won't change anything, should I ever be murdered. The problem will never go away, even if I was murdered by thugs. Hopefully I'll never end up in a dangerous situation, but if I do, I'm going to leave a fucking impact before I leave this planet.
So fucking EDGEY.
You actually think a kid like Trayvon was innocent? Are you fucking out of your mind?
Let me guess, you're with the majority of black people because to you it's a fucking race issue isn't it? Well let me tell you something, he had a record going. He was a criminal, and believe when I say if Zimmerman didn't have a gun, Trayvon would have murdered him.
This is one controversy that I would love to permanently erase from the history books of human history. Too bad people will never forget about this pecker fucker.
I have 3 words for you. You ready?
FUCK TRAYVON MARTIN
Hope someone destroys his grave. He doesn't deserve a grave. Kid was a future criminal and anyone who says otherwise can join him in his grave for all I fucking care.
/themotherfuckingthread
Hey. Hey Deci.
I asked you to show me where he's a criminal.
Instead you're dancing around the question like an autist.
So I ask again....please show Trayvon's criminal record.
EDIT: Also, no, I didn't think it was a race issue. However, you're pretty much the only one bringing race up in this discussion.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/16047-trayvon-martin-was-no-innocent
Now shut the fuck up. You want actual documentation? Google it yourself or ask 4chan.
There Deci, was that so hard?
Shut up.
No need for hostilities, but at least you learned to cite your sources :^)
1623
« on: March 19, 2015, 10:21:08 PM »
"JUSTICE FOR TRAAAAYVON!!!!!"
More like good fucking riddance if you ask me. Either way, George Zimmerman did society a favor. Fucking no good criminals like Trayvon Martin will ALWAYS get one they deserve at the end. Seriously, the kid had it coming, if you're someone that causes trouble and then attempts to beat the shit out of someone to the point where they can die, you can very well lose your own life if that person has a gun.
Oh goodie, perhaps you can dig me up a criminal record for Trayvon besides having some marijuana and getting in a couple scuffles at school. I'll be waiting.
Oh, and killing me won't change anything, should I ever be murdered. The problem will never go away, even if I was murdered by thugs. Hopefully I'll never end up in a dangerous situation, but if I do, I'm going to leave a fucking impact before I leave this planet.
So fucking EDGEY.
You actually think a kid like Trayvon was innocent? Are you fucking out of your mind?
Let me guess, you're with the majority of black people because to you it's a fucking race issue isn't it? Well let me tell you something, he had a record going. He was a criminal, and believe when I say if Zimmerman didn't have a gun, Trayvon would have murdered him.
This is one controversy that I would love to permanently erase from the history books of human history. Too bad people will never forget about this pecker fucker.
I have 3 words for you. You ready?
FUCK TRAYVON MARTIN
Hope someone destroys his grave. He doesn't deserve a grave. Kid was a future criminal and anyone who says otherwise can join him in his grave for all I fucking care.
/themotherfuckingthread
Hey. Hey Deci.
I asked you to show me where he's a criminal.
Instead you're dancing around the question like an autist.
So I ask again....please show Trayvon's criminal record.
EDIT: Also, no, I didn't think it was a race issue. However, you're pretty much the only one bringing race up in this discussion.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/16047-trayvon-martin-was-no-innocent
Now shut the fuck up. You want actual documentation? Google it yourself or ask 4chan.
There Deci, was that so hard?
1624
« on: March 19, 2015, 10:16:22 PM »
"JUSTICE FOR TRAAAAYVON!!!!!"
More like good fucking riddance if you ask me. Either way, George Zimmerman did society a favor. Fucking no good criminals like Trayvon Martin will ALWAYS get one they deserve at the end. Seriously, the kid had it coming, if you're someone that causes trouble and then attempts to beat the shit out of someone to the point where they can die, you can very well lose your own life if that person has a gun.
Oh goodie, perhaps you can dig me up a criminal record for Trayvon besides having some marijuana and getting in a couple scuffles at school. I'll be waiting.
Oh, and killing me won't change anything, should I ever be murdered. The problem will never go away, even if I was murdered by thugs. Hopefully I'll never end up in a dangerous situation, but if I do, I'm going to leave a fucking impact before I leave this planet.
So fucking EDGEY.
You actually think a kid like Trayvon was innocent? Are you fucking out of your mind?
Let me guess, you're with the majority of black people because to you it's a fucking race issue isn't it? Well let me tell you something, he had a record going. He was a criminal, and believe when I say if Zimmerman didn't have a gun, Trayvon would have murdered him.
This is one controversy that I would love to permanently erase from the history books of human history. Too bad people will never forget about this pecker fucker.
I have 3 words for you. You ready?
FUCK TRAYVON MARTIN
Hope someone destroys his grave. He doesn't deserve a grave. Kid was a future criminal and anyone who says otherwise can join him in his grave for all I fucking care.
/themotherfuckingthread
Hey. Hey Deci. I asked you to show me where he's a criminal. Instead you're dancing around the question like an autist. So I ask again....please show Trayvon's criminal record. EDIT: Also, no, I didn't think it was a race issue. However, you're pretty much the only one bringing race up in this discussion.
1625
« on: March 19, 2015, 10:08:11 PM »
"JUSTICE FOR TRAAAAYVON!!!!!"
More like good fucking riddance if you ask me. Either way, George Zimmerman did society a favor. Fucking no good criminals like Trayvon Martin will ALWAYS get one they deserve at the end. Seriously, the kid had it coming, if you're someone that causes trouble and then attempts to beat the shit out of someone to the point where they can die, you can very well lose your own life if that person has a gun.
Oh goodie, perhaps you can dig me up a criminal record for Trayvon besides having some marijuana and getting in a couple scuffles at school. I'll be waiting. Oh, and killing me won't change anything, should I ever be murdered. The problem will never go away, even if I was murdered by thugs. Hopefully I'll never end up in a dangerous situation, but if I do, I'm going to leave a fucking impact before I leave this planet. So fucking EDGEY.
1626
« on: March 19, 2015, 09:48:02 PM »
‘Marriage was not instituted by government,’ said Rep. Dennis Johnson, who backed the bill.
‘It was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.’
I feel like there should be some sort of oversight committee in congress that can quickly recall representatives that clearly have no understanding of the basic tenets of our laws.
....Can...can you please help me wrap my brain around his logic? "The government should not get involved in marriage, but I support and vote for this bill so the government can get involved in marriage." Fucking what?
1627
« on: March 19, 2015, 08:08:31 PM »
Trayvon was within his rights. He was being stalked and felt threatened.
You don't have the right to start beating the shit out of somebody just because you feel threatened.
Oh, you were there at the scene of the crime and know that Trayvon started it?
I suppose you were there yourself and can confirm that Zimmerman just walked up and physically assaulted the Martin.
We know for a fact there was a physical altercation. Martin was shot up close on top of Zimmerman.
Now, because we are reasonable people who are capable of reasoning, we can reason that Zimmerman would not physically assault Martin because he was carrying, and if he wanted to hurt him he would have just shot him. Zimmerman just deciding to physically attack Martin is a silly notion.
Because a fucking twig like Trayvon ended up getting 200+pound Zimmerman off his feet and onto his back and successfully pinned him down.
I guess I'm supposed to also understand Zimmerman meant it when Trayvon kept him pinned, while covering Zimmerman's mouth, while reaching around for Zimmerman's gun. Guess I missed Trayvon's third arm.
Are you a fucking retard? Being a fatass doesn't make you strong and having a slim build doesn't make you a fucking weakling.
Martin was an athlete and very fit, he just had a lanky build. I have a similar build and I can assure you I'm not getting beat up by a lardass just because he weighs more than I do. Stop listening to fat autists in middle school trying to argue that they can win fights.
Zimmerman was a fatass, and like pretty much all fat people who aren't niche bodybuilders, he was out of shape. Having a dickload of body fat doesn't make you strong by any means.
I have no idea if Martin reached for Zimmerman's gun or not, or even knew he had one. He probably didn't, it was dark out, and I doubt he'd knowingly rush a dude with a gun. It's really irrelevant. If you're being attacked, you respond with force. If you're just creeped out and being being followed, you don't respond with force, because that's fucking retarded and a violation of the basic moral nonaggression principle that anyone who isn't a belligerent degenerate follows, whether they're consciously aware of it or not.
Are you retarded? I never said Zimmerman was stronger than Martin, but it's eyebrow raising to hear about a 200+ pound tub of fat getting knocked to his ass and being pinned down by a guy he outweighs three times over.
1628
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:46:07 PM »
Trayvon was within his rights. He was being stalked and felt threatened.
You don't have the right to start beating the shit out of somebody just because you feel threatened.
Oh, you were there at the scene of the crime and know that Trayvon started it?
I suppose you were there yourself and can confirm that Zimmerman just walked up and physically assaulted the Martin.
We know for a fact there was a physical altercation. Martin was shot up close on top of Zimmerman.
Now, because we are reasonable people who are capable of reasoning, we can reason that Zimmerman would not physically assault Martin because he was carrying, and if he wanted to hurt him he would have just shot him. Zimmerman just deciding to physically attack Martin is a silly notion.
Because a fucking twig like Trayvon ended up getting 200+pound Zimmerman off his feet and onto his back and successfully pinned him down. I guess I'm supposed to also understand Zimmerman meant it when Trayvon kept him pinned, while covering Zimmerman's mouth, while reaching around for Zimmerman's gun. Guess I missed Trayvon's third arm.
1629
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:37:20 PM »
Trayvon was within his rights. He was being stalked and felt threatened.
You don't have the right to start beating the shit out of somebody just because you feel threatened.
Oh, you were there at the scene of the crime and know that Trayvon started it?
1630
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:23:46 PM »
Nobody denies Zimmerman's criminal history, dude. They seem to have a hard time recollecting a grown man's crimes but they're really eager to go after a teenager who got into fights and smoked weed.
The fact of the matter is all of the evidence absolutely attests to Trayvon initiating the brawl. Not denying that, but in his mind he was protecting himself from some guy who's following him around.
Trayvon died in the sense that he attacked Zimmerman first, and that Zimmerman reacted to the situation as anyone else should, in self defense. After he followed him for no reason at all. It was racial profiling and paranoia.
Should Zimmerman have followed him? No. Which is my point. You don't go looking for trouble when you're carrying a gun. There's an extremely high probability of you having to use your gun when you could've avoided the whole situation. And in most courts he would've gotten into serious trouble for following someone while armed behaving like a vigilante. Neighborhood watch or not, it's the wrong move.
Should he have ignored the operator (who's advice is not legally binding I might point out) who told him not to follow Trayvon? No. Which has been used against black people on trial in a negative manner of they don't listen to the operator. Yet people sounded like a broken record repeating this over and over about how it isn't legally binding. No, it isn't. But you know why they say this? So the police department isn't liable, and so you don't put yourself or others in harm's way and wait to let the professionals handle business.
Was Zimmerman an unstable character himself? Absolutely. And yet he got off with no charges.
But there's no question of a doubt that all of the empirical evidence points to Trayvon as the one who threw the first punch. After being followed by somebody who could've been a mugger for all he knew.
Trayvon didn't deserve to die because he was innocent wittle black child which was constantly permeated throughout the media. No, he died because some dude thinks he's a vigilante and racially profiles people.
He died because he was, as you amiably point out, part of the gang culture that gets so many black males killed and/or incarcerated in contemporary America.
He was part of a gang? Where's the proof for that?
He was a troubled kid who got into fights at school and was labeled a thug. I never said he was a thug, I said even if he was one did he deserve to be gunned down in the street? No.
You're twisting what I'm saying. He wasn't walikg around throwing up gang signs of flashing a pistol. He bought iced tea and skittles from a convenience store and was on his way back to the house he was visiting. Zimmerman went after him because he was black. I take no issue with him calling the cops, because there were a lot of break ins and he was part of the neighborhood watch, or the captain I believe. But following him and creating a situation where using his weapon to defend himself would most likely be an inevitability? That's inexcusable and he should be sitting in prison for it. A woman that fired warning shots with a gun in her home to defend against her husband was sentenced to several years in prison, and Zimmerman kills a guy after following him because he's paranoid and he walks? Come on now. It's not even about race, it's about how fucked up the justice system is and how having excellent lawyers and friends in the police department will get you out of a murder. Because that's exactly what it was.
Challenger, cases aren't decided by what you THINK is right, but what is the law. And in the case of Zimmerman and Trayvon, there were no laws broken by EITHER individual up until the physical altercation. Then, at that point, it would come down to who initiated the assault, and in this case it was Trayvon. Thus, Zimmerman acted in self-defense. It does not MATTER that he followed Trayvon, it was not illegal to do so. It does not MATTER that he disobeyed the recommendations by the 911 dispatcher, it was not illegal to do so. As well I should point out it's not normal to just punch someone that you think may or may not be following you - that is assault. In the end, Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman and he acted in defense of his own life. Case closed. Zimmerman might not have been the most outstanding citizen but that cannot be held against him, and likewise Trayvon was definitely not a fucking angel like the media spun him to be (and used photos of him when he was younger, disgustingly misleading).
He shouldn't have followed him. Any responsible individual that carries a weapon knows not to go looking for trouble.
It was not illegal for him to do so, though. And following him does not mean he was looking for trouble.
Trouble/confrontation/whatever. Don't argue semantics.
It's not illegal, but it created the whole situation.
Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around. Don't argue bullshit - it wasn't illegal for him to do what he did. What WAS illegal was Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman. You seem like one of the types who wants to try people based on emotions rather than laws and logic.
Nope, it's the facts. He followed and questioned somebody who wasn't doing anything illegal. If anybody was in the wrong, it was Zimmerman.
Those aren't facts, those are your horribly misconstrued interpretations of the events. Are you trolling or just delusional? There is nothing wrong in the eyes of the law with Zimmerman's actions - it was completely within his right to follow Trayvon and talk to him if he wished. What was not within the bounds of the law was Trayvon's assault on Zimmerman. Case closed, and one less stupid thug is on the streets.
And 50 years ago there was nothing wrong in the eyes of the law if you hung a black man from a tree.
Zimmerman instigated. End of story.
Fifty years has no bearing on today lol dumbass
Except it proves the law is not always correct. Especially since at the same time if this case a woman was arrested and sentenced to several years in prison for firing warning shots at her husband to protect herself. Yet Zimmerman killed somebody and walked. It's bullshit.
Trayvon took an illegal action, end of story.
He did, but Zimmerman instigated.
Who cares? The system is not fool proof, but its better than your bullshit idea of trying someone based on emotions and knee-jerk reactions. I bet you were one of the idiots calling for Wilson to be thrown in jail even though he had a right to fair trial. Zimmerman did not instigate Trayvon to act in an illegal manor. Both were well within their rights doing what they were, the point in which there was a violation of law came when Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. You are arguing that it would be okay to beat the shit out of someone just on the fact you suspect they may be following you, out of paranoia. That is not a lawful act.
If someone were to follow me and he and I were to talk and then I begin an attack, I would be at fault. At no point is it lawful to attack somebody based on paranoid delusions, of which you certainly are delusional.
You should read your own statements carefully. You have admitted Trayvon committed the illegal action and Zimmerman did not. The story ends there, Zimmerman did nothing illegal. Case closed.
But it's ok for him to follow Trayvon because he suspects something when he was advised not to?
He was armed. He knew if it came to a physical altercation he would use his gun. And a life was lost because of that. If he wasn't well connected and buddies with the police with one hell of a lawyer he'd be in jail. Trust me.
It was absolutely within his rights to follow him, you are not bound by what a dispatcher operator tells you to do.
You imply Zimmerman was looking for a physical altercation, which would be wrong - and just because a physical altercation may take place it does not insinuate the use of the firearm every time. And no, I don't trust you at all, after many of the fallacies you've argued. You say Zimmerman instigated the situation which would imply legal wrong doing, but he did not do anything illegal. It came down to the conduct of both individuals at the confrontation and Trayvon failed to be a well conducted citizen.
You should trust ME, since I've talked to and know people far more qualified on matters like these. In the end, Zimmerman defended himself and absolutely had reason to use lethal force.
LOL
Except he knew damn well it could have ended the way it ended and went looking for trouble. He should be in prison for instigating and creating a situation where a life was lost.
No.
Trayvon Martin had it coming. Stupid kid didn't even know what he was getting into. He was living the thug life, he was shit. Not a good person at all. The fact that Obama said that if he had a son, he would be like Trayvon sickens me.
This has nothing to do with race mind you. If Trayvon was white and he still had the same attitude and caused a fuck load of trouble and all the events that happened that day, leading him to his death, I still say good riddance.
Does this sound like an innocent kid to you?
If I had come across Trayvon Martin face to face, it's pretty obvious that he would want me dead, which in return I'd have to fight for my life, and I'd most likely lose that fight.
If he was still alive today he would be charged for murder, I guarantee it.
It's so very thuggish to turn and stand your ground against someone who is stalking you in a neighborhood and said stalker is carrying a loaded weapon, which Neighborhood Watch people are not supposed to be carrying anyways.
"Observe and Report, do not engage".
I don't think he had a choice. Fucking Travyon attacked him.
You should only have a gun for your own protection really, because if he didn't, we would be looking at the Travyon Martin trial instead and the dead victim would have been George Zimmerman.
We still don't know the whole story, because Zimmerman chose to be a wannabe cop that night and ended up killing someone because he decided to stalk them. Trayvon was within his rights. He was being stalked and felt threatened.
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« on: March 19, 2015, 07:17:41 PM »
Nobody denies Zimmerman's criminal history, dude. They seem to have a hard time recollecting a grown man's crimes but they're really eager to go after a teenager who got into fights and smoked weed.
The fact of the matter is all of the evidence absolutely attests to Trayvon initiating the brawl. Not denying that, but in his mind he was protecting himself from some guy who's following him around.
Trayvon died in the sense that he attacked Zimmerman first, and that Zimmerman reacted to the situation as anyone else should, in self defense. After he followed him for no reason at all. It was racial profiling and paranoia.
Should Zimmerman have followed him? No. Which is my point. You don't go looking for trouble when you're carrying a gun. There's an extremely high probability of you having to use your gun when you could've avoided the whole situation. And in most courts he would've gotten into serious trouble for following someone while armed behaving like a vigilante. Neighborhood watch or not, it's the wrong move.
Should he have ignored the operator (who's advice is not legally binding I might point out) who told him not to follow Trayvon? No. Which has been used against black people on trial in a negative manner of they don't listen to the operator. Yet people sounded like a broken record repeating this over and over about how it isn't legally binding. No, it isn't. But you know why they say this? So the police department isn't liable, and so you don't put yourself or others in harm's way and wait to let the professionals handle business.
Was Zimmerman an unstable character himself? Absolutely. And yet he got off with no charges.
But there's no question of a doubt that all of the empirical evidence points to Trayvon as the one who threw the first punch. After being followed by somebody who could've been a mugger for all he knew.
Trayvon didn't deserve to die because he was innocent wittle black child which was constantly permeated throughout the media. No, he died because some dude thinks he's a vigilante and racially profiles people.
He died because he was, as you amiably point out, part of the gang culture that gets so many black males killed and/or incarcerated in contemporary America.
He was part of a gang? Where's the proof for that?
He was a troubled kid who got into fights at school and was labeled a thug. I never said he was a thug, I said even if he was one did he deserve to be gunned down in the street? No.
You're twisting what I'm saying. He wasn't walikg around throwing up gang signs of flashing a pistol. He bought iced tea and skittles from a convenience store and was on his way back to the house he was visiting. Zimmerman went after him because he was black. I take no issue with him calling the cops, because there were a lot of break ins and he was part of the neighborhood watch, or the captain I believe. But following him and creating a situation where using his weapon to defend himself would most likely be an inevitability? That's inexcusable and he should be sitting in prison for it. A woman that fired warning shots with a gun in her home to defend against her husband was sentenced to several years in prison, and Zimmerman kills a guy after following him because he's paranoid and he walks? Come on now. It's not even about race, it's about how fucked up the justice system is and how having excellent lawyers and friends in the police department will get you out of a murder. Because that's exactly what it was.
Challenger, cases aren't decided by what you THINK is right, but what is the law. And in the case of Zimmerman and Trayvon, there were no laws broken by EITHER individual up until the physical altercation. Then, at that point, it would come down to who initiated the assault, and in this case it was Trayvon. Thus, Zimmerman acted in self-defense. It does not MATTER that he followed Trayvon, it was not illegal to do so. It does not MATTER that he disobeyed the recommendations by the 911 dispatcher, it was not illegal to do so. As well I should point out it's not normal to just punch someone that you think may or may not be following you - that is assault. In the end, Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman and he acted in defense of his own life. Case closed. Zimmerman might not have been the most outstanding citizen but that cannot be held against him, and likewise Trayvon was definitely not a fucking angel like the media spun him to be (and used photos of him when he was younger, disgustingly misleading).
He shouldn't have followed him. Any responsible individual that carries a weapon knows not to go looking for trouble.
It was not illegal for him to do so, though. And following him does not mean he was looking for trouble.
Trouble/confrontation/whatever. Don't argue semantics.
It's not illegal, but it created the whole situation.
Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around. Don't argue bullshit - it wasn't illegal for him to do what he did. What WAS illegal was Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman. You seem like one of the types who wants to try people based on emotions rather than laws and logic.
Nope, it's the facts. He followed and questioned somebody who wasn't doing anything illegal. If anybody was in the wrong, it was Zimmerman.
Those aren't facts, those are your horribly misconstrued interpretations of the events. Are you trolling or just delusional? There is nothing wrong in the eyes of the law with Zimmerman's actions - it was completely within his right to follow Trayvon and talk to him if he wished. What was not within the bounds of the law was Trayvon's assault on Zimmerman. Case closed, and one less stupid thug is on the streets.
And 50 years ago there was nothing wrong in the eyes of the law if you hung a black man from a tree.
Zimmerman instigated. End of story.
Fifty years has no bearing on today lol dumbass
Except it proves the law is not always correct. Especially since at the same time if this case a woman was arrested and sentenced to several years in prison for firing warning shots at her husband to protect herself. Yet Zimmerman killed somebody and walked. It's bullshit.
Trayvon took an illegal action, end of story.
He did, but Zimmerman instigated.
Who cares? The system is not fool proof, but its better than your bullshit idea of trying someone based on emotions and knee-jerk reactions. I bet you were one of the idiots calling for Wilson to be thrown in jail even though he had a right to fair trial. Zimmerman did not instigate Trayvon to act in an illegal manor. Both were well within their rights doing what they were, the point in which there was a violation of law came when Trayvon attacked Zimmerman. You are arguing that it would be okay to beat the shit out of someone just on the fact you suspect they may be following you, out of paranoia. That is not a lawful act.
If someone were to follow me and he and I were to talk and then I begin an attack, I would be at fault. At no point is it lawful to attack somebody based on paranoid delusions, of which you certainly are delusional.
You should read your own statements carefully. You have admitted Trayvon committed the illegal action and Zimmerman did not. The story ends there, Zimmerman did nothing illegal. Case closed.
But it's ok for him to follow Trayvon because he suspects something when he was advised not to?
He was armed. He knew if it came to a physical altercation he would use his gun. And a life was lost because of that. If he wasn't well connected and buddies with the police with one hell of a lawyer he'd be in jail. Trust me.
It was absolutely within his rights to follow him, you are not bound by what a dispatcher operator tells you to do.
You imply Zimmerman was looking for a physical altercation, which would be wrong - and just because a physical altercation may take place it does not insinuate the use of the firearm every time. And no, I don't trust you at all, after many of the fallacies you've argued. You say Zimmerman instigated the situation which would imply legal wrong doing, but he did not do anything illegal. It came down to the conduct of both individuals at the confrontation and Trayvon failed to be a well conducted citizen.
You should trust ME, since I've talked to and know people far more qualified on matters like these. In the end, Zimmerman defended himself and absolutely had reason to use lethal force.
LOL
Except he knew damn well it could have ended the way it ended and went looking for trouble. He should be in prison for instigating and creating a situation where a life was lost.
No.
Trayvon Martin had it coming. Stupid kid didn't even know what he was getting into. He was living the thug life, he was shit. Not a good person at all. The fact that Obama said that if he had a son, he would be like Trayvon sickens me.
This has nothing to do with race mind you. If Trayvon was white and he still had the same attitude and caused a fuck load of trouble and all the events that happened that day, leading him to his death, I still say good riddance.
Does this sound like an innocent kid to you?
If I had come across Trayvon Martin face to face, it's pretty obvious that he would want me dead, which in return I'd have to fight for my life, and I'd most likely lose that fight.
If he was still alive today he would be charged for murder, I guarantee it.
It's so very thuggish to turn and stand your ground against someone who is stalking you in a neighborhood and said stalker is carrying a loaded weapon, which Neighborhood Watch people are not supposed to be carrying anyways. "Observe and Report, do not engage".
1632
« on: March 19, 2015, 06:00:50 PM »
I've seen your tumblr, and you have no right to talk about hating ugly people.
You ugly ass mother fucker
1633
« on: March 19, 2015, 05:58:58 PM »
Itt: deci hates people
1634
« on: March 19, 2015, 05:50:39 PM »
Nobody denies Zimmerman's criminal history, dude. They seem to have a hard time recollecting a grown man's crimes but they're really eager to go after a teenager who got into fights and smoked weed.
The fact of the matter is all of the evidence absolutely attests to Trayvon initiating the brawl. Not denying that, but in his mind he was protecting himself from some guy who's following him around.
Trayvon died in the sense that he attacked Zimmerman first, and that Zimmerman reacted to the situation as anyone else should, in self defense. After he followed him for no reason at all. It was racial profiling and paranoia.
Should Zimmerman have followed him? No. Which is my point. You don't go looking for trouble when you're carrying a gun. There's an extremely high probability of you having to use your gun when you could've avoided the whole situation. And in most courts he would've gotten into serious trouble for following someone while armed behaving like a vigilante. Neighborhood watch or not, it's the wrong move.
Should he have ignored the operator (who's advice is not legally binding I might point out) who told him not to follow Trayvon? No. Which has been used against black people on trial in a negative manner of they don't listen to the operator. Yet people sounded like a broken record repeating this over and over about how it isn't legally binding. No, it isn't. But you know why they say this? So the police department isn't liable, and so you don't put yourself or others in harm's way and wait to let the professionals handle business.
Was Zimmerman an unstable character himself? Absolutely. And yet he got off with no charges.
But there's no question of a doubt that all of the empirical evidence points to Trayvon as the one who threw the first punch. After being followed by somebody who could've been a mugger for all he knew.
Trayvon didn't deserve to die because he was innocent wittle black child which was constantly permeated throughout the media. No, he died because some dude thinks he's a vigilante and racially profiles people.
He died because he was, as you amiably point out, part of the gang culture that gets so many black males killed and/or incarcerated in contemporary America.
He was part of a gang? Where's the proof for that?
He was a troubled kid who got into fights at school and was labeled a thug. I never said he was a thug, I said even if he was one did he deserve to be gunned down in the street? No.
You're twisting what I'm saying. He wasn't walikg around throwing up gang signs of flashing a pistol. He bought iced tea and skittles from a convenience store and was on his way back to the house he was visiting. Zimmerman went after him because he was black. I take no issue with him calling the cops, because there were a lot of break ins and he was part of the neighborhood watch, or the captain I believe. But following him and creating a situation where using his weapon to defend himself would most likely be an inevitability? That's inexcusable and he should be sitting in prison for it. A woman that fired warning shots with a gun in her home to defend against her husband was sentenced to several years in prison, and Zimmerman kills a guy after following him because he's paranoid and he walks? Come on now. It's not even about race, it's about how fucked up the justice system is and how having excellent lawyers and friends in the police department will get you out of a murder. Because that's exactly what it was.
Challenger, cases aren't decided by what you THINK is right, but what is the law. And in the case of Zimmerman and Trayvon, there were no laws broken by EITHER individual up until the physical altercation. Then, at that point, it would come down to who initiated the assault, and in this case it was Trayvon. Thus, Zimmerman acted in self-defense. It does not MATTER that he followed Trayvon, it was not illegal to do so. It does not MATTER that he disobeyed the recommendations by the 911 dispatcher, it was not illegal to do so. As well I should point out it's not normal to just punch someone that you think may or may not be following you - that is assault. In the end, Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman and he acted in defense of his own life. Case closed. Zimmerman might not have been the most outstanding citizen but that cannot be held against him, and likewise Trayvon was definitely not a fucking angel like the media spun him to be (and used photos of him when he was younger, disgustingly misleading).
He shouldn't have followed him. Any responsible individual that carries a weapon knows not to go looking for trouble.
It was not illegal for him to do so, though. And following him does not mean he was looking for trouble.
Trouble/confrontation/whatever. Don't argue semantics.
It's not illegal, but it created the whole situation.
Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, not the other way around. Don't argue bullshit - it wasn't illegal for him to do what he did. What WAS illegal was Trayvon assaulting Zimmerman. You seem like one of the types who wants to try people based on emotions rather than laws and logic.
Nope, it's the facts. He followed and questioned somebody who wasn't doing anything illegal. If anybody was in the wrong, it was Zimmerman.
Those aren't facts, those are your horribly misconstrued interpretations of the events. Are you trolling or just delusional? There is nothing wrong in the eyes of the law with Zimmerman's actions - it was completely within his right to follow Trayvon and talk to him if he wished. What was not within the bounds of the law was Trayvon's assault on Zimmerman. Case closed, and one less stupid thug is on the streets.
And 50 years ago there was nothing wrong in the eyes of the law if you hung a black man from a tree.
Zimmerman instigated. End of story.
>taking midget seriously Chally pls
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« on: March 18, 2015, 09:04:00 PM »
this is...just...fucking wrong
1636
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:53:23 PM »
America Works bill please?
1637
« on: March 17, 2015, 03:13:12 PM »
Kupo: ok gimme a sex
PILLAGE AND PLUNDER THAT ASS, SEP7.
1638
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:30:43 PM »
Why are you a flake
1639
« on: March 14, 2015, 09:19:01 PM »
I've got Orange Juice 
1640
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:07:01 PM »
He secretly loves you
1641
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:05:45 PM »
1642
« on: March 14, 2015, 08:02:22 PM »
I get paid in tacos.
Here you go 
1643
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:13:31 PM »
No
1644
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:08:12 PM »
Did you know that Cheat pays them approximately $5 for every thread a mod locks? Keep making them rake in that cash guys!
Including you, Meta.
1645
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:07:08 PM »
INB4LOCK
1646
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:02:31 PM »
wat is autism?
You're kidding right?
Cheat stop pretending. Joke's over.
>Still thinking Cheat is ifarted
Then who is it? I know it's someone's alt. I wasn't born yesterday.
He's not someone's alt, he's an actual user. He's probably just fucking retarded, idk.
1647
« on: March 14, 2015, 07:00:49 PM »
And, not only that. Not even counting the fact that it's all so predictable, but you're following your own pattern right now. I'd give it two weeks. Maybe three. Before you start to crack again and then you get real pissy.
You've gone up and put your walls up now, like you have before, with some sense of humor, some sense that your care free attitude will deflect things away from your person. When it won't. In fact it'll just perpetrate things.
The more you react, the more it edges people on. The more they bite and snap, the closer you get to having that one person fire off something that breaks through those cracks of yours and sets you off.
Honestly. All I can say is this.
If you're posting, for the sake of perpetrating your own viscous circle.
If you're posting in some attempt to keep your walls up, like you have before.
If you're posting here because you think you can beat it, that you won't fall apart, that you won't be a mess, that you won't continue the trend of "you vs everybody."
Then stop. That's it. That's all there is to it. There is, always, a time to stop, think, and put your foot down.
Call it quits. Go off, and do something constructive with your time. Don't sit around here and stew in bullshit.
Get up, rip yourself free of it, and make something of yourself instead.
There is nothing better for me to do. I did join here originally to be a part of everyone, before I was considered to be a joke. Too bad I can't unwind time and prevent all the bullshit that occurred 10 months ago.
It doesn't matter if I'm even here or not. It's going to keep going. People won't let it die. I'm not here a fight it.
This is me pretty much surrendering to it. The white flag. A truce.
At this point I have absolutely nothing to lose aside from this resurrected account, and I can always switch IP's. It's not hard.
1648
« on: March 14, 2015, 06:55:31 PM »
wat is autism?
You're kidding right?
Cheat stop pretending. Joke's over.
>Still thinking Cheat is ifarted
1649
« on: March 14, 2015, 06:50:37 PM »
1650
« on: March 13, 2015, 05:35:15 AM »
Make sure you clean your house thoroughly, which even means dusting those high cabinets and under all the furniture. You'll never know when you'll have guests over, and they may not appreciate the dust.
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