Here are the rules for Smash 4 at Evo

http://evo.shoryuken.com/additional-rules/

Nintendo 3DS, 2DS, or WiiU gamepad are not allowed. Pro Controller as well as GameCube controllers are allowed for Smash Bros. for WiiU.

I think it's actually tournament illegal to use anything else other than the GameCube controller. Not sure. CK can confirm that.

Pretty sure Pro controllers are the only alternative actually.

So does everyone here use a GameCube controller too?

Wii U Pro controller

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Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 08:36:06 PM

Short hopping and doing aerials is how the pros do it in melee. That's their main form of fighting.

What's a short hop?

Tap the jump button really quickly instead of doing a full jump you'll do a small hop like I'd do in the beginning of our matches. You'll usually dodge an opponents ground attacks, and makes jumping less predictable.

Let's see here. This is just a general tip. Any time someone hits the ground and they don't do a tech roll(so they instead bounce on the ground) 2 things can happen:

You can attack them while they are down like me and you both did a few times, and lead that into a combo.

Or, wait and let them either roll to the left , right, or stand up. Most of the time people will roll. So you have a 50% chance of guessing they will roll forward towards you. So whenever they are laying there, get at a distance to where if they were to roll forward, you could hit them with a smash attack or something.

A 3rd option, is to get right by them. Usually thyll attack if you are right by them. So when you see them start to move, jump in the air so their attack misses and follow up with an aerial attack as they stand.

TLDR learn when to set up moves

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 07:54:08 PM

CK Greninja's recovery is insane. Only way I'm killing him is if he goes up

Really?

I never got to play his greninja, which was a shame.

He literally will not die.

Ever

Quote from: challengerX on December 28, 2015, 04:13:52 PM

Quote from: Tackel on December 28, 2015, 04:04:24 PM

Pretty shit game tbh. Combat is clunky and dialogue options are terrible. Using the excuse "It came out in 2003!" is total bullshit because Jedi Outcast II came out before that, which has good combat. Plus its endings are worse than Mass Effect 3.

Then you have KOTOR 2, but that launched unfinished and took years before you could install that restoration mod for a complete game. And it took until this year to have the mod officially supported by Disney and Lucasarts. Plus the combat was still clunky.

And last your have TOR, which that game speaks for itself in mediocrity.

Which is the best Jedi Outcast game in your opinion?

Depends on what you want from the game.

Star Wars Dark Forces was a DOOM clone.

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II was "meh". Still pretty much a DOOM clone, but trying out lightsaber combat.

Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast was pretty decent. Great combat for it's time and and "meh" story. Good characters.

Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy was a lot better. Improved on combat and had a little better story. Though, you had a "self insert" character and Rosh. Who the fuck likes Rosh?

Jedi Outcast for story, which isn't much, and Jedi Academy for combat.

Love Outcast and Academy.

I'll post more tips in here momentarily

You can do it in melee too. Uhhhh I think it's under settings, then controller settings.

I'll usually run at an enemy and do a short hop and use the down aerial (the spin move) as they run under me. If I end the move where they are to my right and at low percent, I can probably follow up with a grab to the right. If they are on the left of you, they'll be launched left.

I'll usually run at an enemy and do a short hop and use the down aerial (the spin move) as they 4un under me. If I end the move where they are to my right and at low percent, I can probably follow up with a grab to the right. If they are on the left of you, they'll be launched left.

Quote from: Rocketman287 on December 28, 2015, 07:24:33 PM

A few tips. Use the fox illusion sparingly and low to the ground.

Like you noticed, I'd run away then turn quick and use it in your direction and usually hit you. A fake - out basically

That's the "b+sideways on the joystick" move, right? The equivalent of Falco's Phantasm?

Yeah. And landing after that moves leaves you so open for attack

A few tips. Use the fox illusion sparingly and low to the ground.

Like you noticed, I'd run away then turn quick and use it in your direction and usually hit you. A fake - out basically

Alright, that's enough Smash for today. Unless someone wants to 1v1 directly (as I think that's the best way you guys can give me some pointers).

I'll fight ya

I was wondering who was player 3 the whole time hue