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« on: April 08, 2015, 11:42:09 AM »
i wonder what sorts of credentials you have to justify holding such a lofty position
*shrugs*
I'm well read, and I've been reading and writing since my early childhood. I'm a paid poet and I'm currently working on the first of my own series of books.
But in simple terms, wouldn't a sausage expert be able to recognise a superior sausage? Same deal.
thats what i figured.
and yes, a sausage expert would be able to do that. but not a sausage enthusiast. a sausage enthusiast has no formal training and simply thinks that their personal experience/expectations dictate objective worth, and as such, he will be implicitly biased and his judgement will be rendered impotent. get what im saying?
I've studied poetry, english, philosophy and journalism at University. I deferred my courses in mid 2010 because I wasn't enjoying it, or learning anything that I couldn't teach myself/already knew/know; but before I left I passed every assessment I was given. You shouldn't set too much store in formal degrees when it comes to writing. These things are helpful, of course, but natural ability and self-teaching can easily take their place.
What are your qualifications?
im a historian. my field is intimately tied to literature and ive spent more time poring through manuscripts than id care to repeat.
ill let you off the hook though. this isnt productive.
I'm not on a hook and you know it, if you really have the literary bent that you say you do  I'm only here to shit stir anyway. I can dislike Martin's writing, but art is subjective up to a point. He may seem like a Shakespearean genius to you. But for me, he can be as grammatically correct as he likes, (or whatever merits you're judging him on) but that won't make his mind or his penmanship any more eloquent.
Anyway, I just finished this the other day: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/86745.A_History_of_the_Byzantine_State_and_Society
I like History, what sorts of things are you doing at the moment?
ill give you a pass on martin. he cant appeal to everyone.
that looks like a neat book. byzantine history is really cool. ive always been intrigued by Justinian, because his eccentric ways gave us so much cool art. gotta love the byzantine obsession with gold in their art, gaudy fuckers that they were.
right now, im critiquing a book on masculinity in america and working on a research project about the american homefront/domesticity during WWII.
Neat. Thanks for the pass, hahaha. Christ, I'm letting Fox Clan down, I'm supposed to be being obnoxious here. Are you actually a doctor or professor of history or whatever? How old are you?
Have you ever read Guy Gavriel Kay? He might appeal to a historian.
no, just a devoted student. im a junior in college, patiently awaiting the day i am released from my academic obligations so that i can pursue my own literary interests. im much more interested in philosophy/religion/aspects of culture than i am in political/military history, so theres no chance that ill pursue a postgrad history degree. my plan is to finish the bachelors and then get into a library science program, and after that i want to seal myself away in a library for the rest of my life.
ive never heard of that guy, but youve piqued my interest. are any of his works in the public domain?
No idea. I just buy actual books. Anyway... hah! You cheeky little shit! I should be the one grading you! And since you haven't impressed me aaalll that much... you're going to have to re-sit this one until I find you capable of good judgement in regards to fantasy literature 
8102
« on: April 08, 2015, 11:12:44 AM »
i wonder what sorts of credentials you have to justify holding such a lofty position
*shrugs*
I'm well read, and I've been reading and writing since my early childhood. I'm a paid poet and I'm currently working on the first of my own series of books.
But in simple terms, wouldn't a sausage expert be able to recognise a superior sausage? Same deal.
thats what i figured.
and yes, a sausage expert would be able to do that. but not a sausage enthusiast. a sausage enthusiast has no formal training and simply thinks that their personal experience/expectations dictate objective worth, and as such, he will be implicitly biased and his judgement will be rendered impotent. get what im saying?
I've studied poetry, english, philosophy and journalism at University. I deferred my courses in mid 2010 because I wasn't enjoying it, or learning anything that I couldn't teach myself/already knew/know; but before I left I passed every assessment I was given. You shouldn't set too much store in formal degrees when it comes to writing. These things are helpful, of course, but natural ability and self-teaching can easily take their place.
What are your qualifications?
im a historian. my field is intimately tied to literature and ive spent more time poring through manuscripts than id care to repeat.
ill let you off the hook though. this isnt productive.
I'm not on a hook and you know it, if you really have the literary bent that you say you do I'm only here to shit stir anyway. I can dislike Martin's writing, but art is subjective up to a point. He may seem like a Shakespearean genius to you. But for me, he can be as grammatically correct as he likes, (or whatever merits you're judging him on) but that won't make his mind or his penmanship any more eloquent.
Anyway, I just finished this the other day: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/86745.A_History_of_the_Byzantine_State_and_Society
I like History, what sorts of things are you doing at the moment?
ill give you a pass on martin. he cant appeal to everyone.
that looks like a neat book. byzantine history is really cool. ive always been intrigued by Justinian, because his eccentric ways gave us so much cool art. gotta love the byzantine obsession with gold in their art, gaudy fuckers that they were.
right now, im critiquing a book on masculinity in america and working on a research project about the american homefront/domesticity during WWII.
Neat. Thanks for the pass, hahaha. Christ, I'm letting Fox Clan down, I'm supposed to be being obnoxious here. Are you actually a doctor or professor of history or whatever? How old are you? Have you ever read Guy Gavriel Kay? He might appeal to a historian.
8103
« on: April 08, 2015, 11:01:27 AM »
i wonder what sorts of credentials you have to justify holding such a lofty position
*shrugs*
I'm well read, and I've been reading and writing since my early childhood. I'm a paid poet and I'm currently working on the first of my own series of books.
But in simple terms, wouldn't a sausage expert be able to recognise a superior sausage? Same deal.
thats what i figured.
and yes, a sausage expert would be able to do that. but not a sausage enthusiast. a sausage enthusiast has no formal training and simply thinks that their personal experience/expectations dictate objective worth, and as such, he will be implicitly biased and his judgement will be rendered impotent. get what im saying?
I've studied poetry, english, philosophy and journalism at University. I deferred my courses in mid 2010 because I wasn't enjoying it, or learning anything that I couldn't teach myself/already knew/know; but before I left I passed every assessment I was given. You shouldn't set too much store in formal degrees when it comes to writing. These things are helpful, of course, but natural ability and self-teaching can easily take their place.
What are your qualifications?
im a historian. my field is intimately tied to literature and ive spent more time poring through manuscripts than id care to repeat.
ill let you off the hook though. this isnt productive.
I'm not on a hook and you know it, if you really have the literary bent that you say you do I'm only here to shit stir anyway. I can dislike Martin's writing, but art is subjective up to a point. He may seem like a Shakespearean genius to you. But for me, he can be as grammatically correct as he likes, (or whatever merits you're judging him on) but that won't make his mind or his penmanship any more eloquent. Anyway, I just finished this the other day: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/86745.A_History_of_the_Byzantine_State_and_SocietyI like History, what sorts of things are you doing at the moment?
8104
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:45:09 AM »
i wonder what sorts of credentials you have to justify holding such a lofty position
*shrugs*
I'm well read, and I've been reading and writing since my early childhood. I'm a paid poet and I'm currently working on the first of my own series of books.
But in simple terms, wouldn't a sausage expert be able to recognise a superior sausage? Same deal.
thats what i figured.
and yes, a sausage expert would be able to do that. but not a sausage enthusiast. a sausage enthusiast has no formal training and simply thinks that their personal experience/expectations dictate objective worth, and as such, he will be implicitly biased and his judgement will be rendered impotent. get what im saying?
I've studied poetry, english, philosophy and journalism at University. I deferred my courses in mid 2010 because I wasn't enjoying it, or learning anything that I couldn't teach myself/already knew/know; but before I left I passed every assessment I was given. You shouldn't set too much store in formal degrees when it comes to writing. These things are helpful, of course, but natural ability and self-teaching can easily take their place. What are your qualifications?
8105
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:28:38 AM »
i wonder what sorts of credentials you have to justify holding such a lofty position
*shrugs* I'm well read, and I've been reading and writing since my early childhood. I'm a paid poet and I'm currently working on the first of my own series of books. But in simple terms, wouldn't a sausage expert be able to recognise a superior sausage? Same deal.
8106
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:18:55 AM »
I am sorry to offend you, kiddies. To be honest I'm happy that you read at all. But there are different classes of writer, and Martin is of a lower tier. Real talk.  Spoiler also sorry foxby, you were right, this thread is ok
fox clan continues to triumph Elegiac, no. bad. stop. you cannot talk about "the hum of the conveyor belt of mass-produced fantasy dreck" then put (presumably) Robert Jordan on a pedestal. the man has 14 goddamn books for the same series. You maybe might want to read what I said again then. Bad Comet. Reading comprehension 
8107
« on: April 08, 2015, 10:04:51 AM »
if you can sit through a game of thrones book, you have the attention span of a 10 year old
I've read longer books and better. Although being a better writer than Martin isn't much of an accomplishment. He's in the same class as Eddings, Feist and Jordan. Mass-produced fantasy dreck. You can practically hear the hum of the conveyor belt behind each page. You're basically an overgrown 10 year old if you can sit through what is essentially a trashy goosebumps-caliber fantasy-cum-days-of-our-lives saga. I mean shit, you might as well be reading something like this: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3251066-unicorn-bride ...at least it knows it's trash.
8108
« on: April 08, 2015, 09:50:24 AM »
That is not food.
You're not food.
das ate your ass
8109
« on: April 08, 2015, 09:14:11 AM »
You're nit a man until you've tongue punched a fart box.
in after das ate everyones ass
8110
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:55:15 AM »
Saw it coming
8111
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:46:48 AM »
fuck her in the bum
in the rear end
8112
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:33:20 AM »
I like bowling
8113
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:29:25 AM »
ive refreshed my memory of what happened last season. im ready.
you crippled your brain?
it is an MLG parody, so there is always that risk.
poor comet the brain cripple
someone needs to have lame of thrones banned before there are any more victims
you have the oddest taste in books, have i told you that before?
I don't enjoy the standard sword and sorcery dreck. I don't accept bad writing or old ideas that have been done to death. Unfortunately Martin qualifies as bad writing although I'm more than willing to admit that his ideas contain some portion of originality.
hmm. i can accept that.
i am curious though, what is "bad writing" in your opinion?
when I get to just skimming over the pages and still don't miss much (89% of the writing in those big thick game of thrones books are just a boring waste of page to me), whereas with good writing I'll slow down and take my time with each page, drinking in the nuances of storytelling and story; my absolute favourite thing is when I'm forced to re-read a paragraph because I wasn't focusing enough and I won't understand what's happening unless I go back and read it again because the story is just that densely constructed
at the other end of the spectrum, I'll read easy, flowing narratives (they don't have to be dense) as long as the author is artful about it and his ideas are interesting enough... Jack Vance or Michael Moorcock would be an example of this, although not all of Vances work is too 'pulpy'
exactly how i felt with the Sword of Truth series.
don't you just hate it 
8114
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:17:52 AM »
ive refreshed my memory of what happened last season. im ready.
you crippled your brain?
it is an MLG parody, so there is always that risk.
poor comet the brain cripple
someone needs to have lame of thrones banned before there are any more victims
you have the oddest taste in books, have i told you that before?
I don't enjoy the standard sword and sorcery dreck. I don't accept bad writing or old ideas that have been done to death. Unfortunately Martin qualifies as bad writing although I'm more than willing to admit that his ideas contain some portion of originality.
hmm. i can accept that.
i am curious though, what is "bad writing" in your opinion?
when I get to just skimming over the pages and still don't miss much (89% of the writing in those big thick game of thrones books are just a boring waste of page to me), whereas with good writing I'll slow down and take my time with each page, drinking in the nuances of storytelling and story; my absolute favourite thing is when I'm forced to re-read a paragraph because I wasn't focusing enough and I won't understand what's happening unless I go back and read it again because the story is just that densely constructed at the other end of the spectrum, I'll read easy, flowing narratives (they don't have to be dense) as long as the author is artful about it and his ideas are interesting enough... Jack Vance or Michael Moorcock would be an example of this, although not all of Vances work is too 'pulpy'
8115
« on: April 08, 2015, 08:00:23 AM »
inb5filthyfranksperglordfanboys
in before mordo eats everyones ass
8116
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:59:27 AM »
ive refreshed my memory of what happened last season. im ready.
you crippled your brain?
it is an MLG parody, so there is always that risk.
poor comet the brain cripple
someone needs to have lame of thrones banned before there are any more victims
you have the oddest taste in books, have i told you that before?
I don't enjoy the standard sword and sorcery dreck. I don't accept bad writing or old ideas that have been done to death. Unfortunately Martin qualifies as bad writing although I'm more than willing to admit that his ideas contain some portion of originality.
8117
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:54:13 AM »
ive refreshed my memory of what happened last season. im ready.
you crippled your brain?
it is an MLG parody, so there is always that risk.
poor comet the brain cripple someone needs to have lame of thrones banned before there are any more victims
8118
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:53:02 AM »
As long as it's done properly so it's not all awkward
8119
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:51:05 AM »
ive refreshed my memory of what happened last season. im ready.
you crippled your brain?
8120
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:46:49 AM »
but we can keep this thread
lol septy is a soccer mom, somebody go get jim
8121
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:44:50 AM »
That show is complete cancer
You have disgraced fox clan
alright we need a new thread some foxes are too mischievous to be trusted with anything, that's why we need good leader foxes like me
8122
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:41:45 AM »
That show is complete cancer
You have disgraced fox clan
8123
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:27:54 AM »
its cause you need to piss and your bladder presses against your prostate
then like you get a boner
whoah man
tubulur
radical
tubulur cos like of your pee tube
8124
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:25:58 AM »
its cause you need to piss and your bladder presses against your prostate
then like you get a boner
whoah man tubulur
8125
« on: April 08, 2015, 07:15:30 AM »
*woke
8126
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:43:05 AM »
CAN'T MOSSAD THE ASSAD
song is fucking awesome
you fucking sandnigger
found your pic?
boypussay
foxby? or maybe foxbae?
sending a PM to RC
8127
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:40:47 AM »
CAN'T MOSSAD THE ASSAD
song is fucking awesome
you fucking sandnigger
found your pic?
boypussay
foxby? or maybe foxbae?
8128
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:33:20 AM »
I've been exposed to more racism in this forum over these past months than I have in the entirety of the rest of my entire life
8129
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:18:28 AM »
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
8130
« on: April 08, 2015, 06:17:02 AM »
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