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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 06, 2018, 08:15:02 AM »
hold the fuck up

invaders can kill NPCs?
Only through hacking. I have a few hundred hours in DS1 multi-player and have never seen it happen.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 01:44:43 PM »
Nothing. It just means that you were wrong about that specific part of the game, now realize it and (hopefully) will no longer try to argue that same point.
what point, though

the point i made was "it shouldn't work like this"

is this not true regardless of any lore justifications

am i not still able to argue that it shouldn't work like that regardless of lore

you can feel differently about it, but how does that make me wrong
You're right. I was more referring to some of the arguments you made. It's perfectly reasonable to think things should be different about a video game but parts of what you said to substantiate that were pretty iffy. To keep up with the pokemon analogy, it'd be fine for someone to think you should be able to catch other trainers' pokemon. It's an opinion and a value statement that isn't inherently wrong. But if the arguments they'd use to get that point across simply aren't correct in light of what we know to be "the truth" in or about the game ("actually all pokemon hate their trainers and are constantly yearning to escape and be caught by another trainer no matter who it is or how good they have it" - which is something that flatout contradicts and is incompatible with the pokemon lore / universe), then I think it's fine to correct that. You're free to think it should be changed, I just wanted to shed some light on some of the stuff you argued that I thought were based on some misunderstandings of the game. That's all. :)

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Lol no Flee, the Earth is flat and you’re just hiding the truth.
Down with the globeheads.

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inb4 Bangus Khan
His trolling is pretty lazy though. There's never an extended or well-argued position you can go over and systematically disprove or take apart. It's always short and vague and leads to silence or goalposts being moved even when you refute it.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 12:36:48 PM »
right, and if i say "okay i was wrong" what happens then
Nothing. It just means that you were wrong about that specific part of the game, now realize it and (hopefully) will no longer try to argue that same point. That's it. :) You're still free to dislike the invasion mechanic, opt out of it entirely, endlessly criticize it and think less of the game because of it. I don't care. We discussed invasions months ago when you just started your playthrough and I have no intention of doing that again. All I did was set the record straight because you had some misunderstandings and Dietrich didn't really clear them up because he was uncertain about them himself.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 12:05:59 PM »
tl;dr it's fine to dislike invasions and think it's a dumb mechanic, but the claiming of humanity as a reward makes perfect sense within the lore and is consistent with the way humanities and invasions of work. You haven't refuted that and I think the reason you disagree lies in a misunderstanding of the lore and the mechanics.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 11:50:34 AM »
You could've saved yourself some time if you had just clarified that by "refuting" (properly disproving a statement) you actually meant "disliking". Refuting would be to fully prove to someone that you do or don't randomly gain humanity when you die, when all you did was again talk about why you don't like the mechanic and why you think it's dumb game design - something that is pretty irrelevant to what I said. I didn't even try to argue that it's a good mechanic at as we've already been through that months ago. All I did was just explain why your reasoning of "if you have no soft humanity, invaders shouldn't get anything" doesn't make sense within the lore and the workings of the humanity/invasion/covenant mechanics (which, let's be honest, you're not really an expert on as this is your first blind playthrough and you actively avoid the entire multiplayer portion of the game). Everything I said is true and addresses your assumptions of how it "should work"  because your understanding of it is just incorrect. Your "refutation" is just an explanation of why you think is dumb and should work differently because of incorrect reasons. That's all.

And yeah, you are kinda wrong about the "spending". You burn the humanity at a bonfire to absorb it and reverse your hollowing. Just as you have to burn tobacco to inhale the released smoke, you have to use the special fires of the bonfire to consume humanities. Once you do, the humanity infuses you and you once again become a full human until the next time you die. When this happens, your humanity (which you can think of as a human soul) evaporates and disappears unless this happens in the presence of a Darkwraith invader who then absorbs it instead. It becomes more obvious when you actually join the covenant, get the explanation, read the descriptions of the gear and receive the special humanity draining "dark hand" item, so I can't really fault you too much for not knowing this.

Also, I was serious about the random humanity upon death thing. I've never heard about it before and there's nothing about it on the wiki. It's a big discovery if true but I suspect you might be confusing it with gaining seemingly random humanity from killing enemies before a boss.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 10:36:39 AM »
You lose any soft humanity when you die, Invaders gain humanity even if you have none. It's really just a fantastic system
it's a joke

if you have no humanity, invaders shouldn't get anything—that's how it should work
Invaders can only invade you when you are human. They steal your humanity when they kill you. This makes perfect sense and is why you can't be invaded when hollow. It's all part of the lore.
i addressed and soundly refuted every sentence of this post already
You didn't though. "Invaders can only invade you when you're human" is a completely neutral and factual statement akin to "trainers can't catch pokemon owned by another trainer". There's no refuting that. "They steal your humanity when they kill you" is exactly the same. While your soft humanity is retrievable from your bloodstain, you lose your "active" humanity that's making you non-hollow. This is what the invaders claim from your corpse. They're not thieves that can rummage through your backpack and take your belongings. They can only absord the humanity that leaves your body as you die. You didn't refute that either but instead argued a misconception of how losing and reclaiming humanity works. Same goes for the final two sentences. The lore explains how this works. Your "refutation" of it just seems to be based on a misunderstanding of how the mechanic really works as there is no way for you to reclaim the "active" humanity when you're killed by an invader. You can say you think the lore's dumb and not a sufficient justification for the invasion mechanic, but it's consistent and your personal dislike of it doesn't refute any part of what I said.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 10:28:08 AM »
maybe in some other game?

in fact, it's possible to randomly gain one humanity if you die in dark souls 1

not sure if that's still a thing
Pretty sure that was never a thing.
i have video evidence but i'll have to sift through the archives
Please do.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 09:15:49 AM »
You lose any soft humanity when you die, Invaders gain humanity even if you have none. It's really just a fantastic system
it's a joke

if you have no humanity, invaders shouldn't get anything—that's how it should work
Invaders can only invade you when you are human. They steal your humanity when they kill you. This makes perfect sense and is why you can't be invaded when hollow. It's all part of the lore.

Also, only the Darkwraith / red eye orb invaders get humanity because that's their whole goal. Other types of invaders don't receive any.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 09:11:52 AM »
maybe in some other game?

in fact, it's possible to randomly gain one humanity if you die in dark souls 1

not sure if that's still a thing
Pretty sure that was never a thing.

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Gaming / Re: Dark Souls remastered
« on: June 04, 2018, 09:07:16 AM »
I'm all seriousness I really like it as a plot enhancer but I understand why people don't like being invaded.
Is it because they suck at video games?

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People that think they're the ones in the know when they're the most easily manipulated are extremely depressing but fascinating at the same time. I can't figure out if it's just stupidity or what.
Plain stupidity is a part of it but it's got a lot to do with feeling disenfranchised. Many of these people are or were outcasts that are often uneducated, anxious and uncertain. Conspiracy theories are a way for them to get back at an unjust world and make it understandable. All of the successful, accomplished and intelligent people that outdo them in every way aren't actually doing any better at all because they're just puppets being controlled. "Normal" people are blind rats in a maze whose fancy degrees, good social relations and many accomplishments are meaningless bits of cheese while they're the ones who made it out of the maze, are "in the know" and see things how they really are.

Most of these conspiracies are a convenient way to make complex things easier to understand and manage. Complicated scientific issuess (vaccines, global warming, space travel...) and political happenings are a lot more manageable when you don't need to understand any of it and can instead reduce it to "it's all fake, the evil government & big companies are behind it all". Your own failures and shortcomings are a lot more bearable when they're not really your own but (in part) due to the shadow government spraying chemtrails and manipulating everything. You might be an underachiever but surely that doesn't matter when everything is controlled by people keeping you down and you've got more important (conspiracy) things to focus on. After all, you're the good guy who sees through the lie and faces down the pure evil elite that apparently occupies itself with digging holes in the dirt next to an Arizona highway to rape and kill children, or something.

The world's a shitty place and people look for security, order and validation. Some can't find these things normally and fail due to their own stupidity or other cirumstances. When that happens, everything becomes a lot more manageable when there's some kind of conspiracy that played a part in it all and that allows you to blame and fight against an easily classifiable scapegoat instead of trying to understand highly complex issues. It starts as a little seed ("I can't believe 9/11 happened because it's so horrible and now I'm reading (fake) news posts on Facebook it looks like some things don't add up") that just grows. And when one of those theories has taken a hold due to stupidity, ignorance and lack of information ("the government is covering up the 9/11 truth and the powerful media people are in on it"), it's a quick descent down a very deep rabbit hole ("since I can't trust any of the traditional media I follow TruthSeekerFreedomWarrior1776.blogspot.com which taught me all big companies are manipulating me and vaccines cause autism and global warming is a Chinese hoax and Democrats cover up for child raping devil worshippers"). It's utterly insane but to some it unfortunately makes sense. Last year I had a PM conversation with some guy on B.net who thought 9/11 was done Obama (not Bush, not the government, but specifically Obama - somehow). To him, demonstrable facts were lies and untold amounts of scientific hard evidence was fake and fraudulent. As soon as anything threatened the validity of any part of his story, he'd conveniently ignore it and go "what about X" before spamming another 10 links to conspiracy sites. Like you said, it's sad and depressing to see.

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>abandoned homeless camp with children's stuff in it

"CHILD TRAFFICKING RAPE DEATH CAMP TIES TO CLINTON"

Fucking hell these people.

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The Flood / Re: so what's goin on with you guys
« on: June 01, 2018, 05:59:59 PM »
Just busy. Lots of stressful things going on. I'm hoping to submit a PhD proposal by September while simultaneously being part of a big project that's ending and another that's just starting. They're both about surveillance and law enforcement AI. The one that's ending has a final review meeting coming up at the European Commission headquarters and it's a lot of pressure. I'm trying to juggle all these things and a lot of people have very high expectations of me for all of them. It's not easy.

Other than that, my stream has really taken off and I've been pulling in a pretty consistent 100+ viewers these last few weeks. I now meet the Twitch partnership requirements so I put in an application and have them review my channel. Fingers crossed.

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I'm actually at a PhD defense about this very topic right now. They're talking about a new leaked text.
ladeeda
say that to my face fucker not on the internet and see what happens

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I'm actually at a PhD defense about this very topic right now. They're talking about a new leaked text.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Drama 2k19
« on: June 01, 2018, 07:27:18 AM »
You're both shit at Halo

10 likes and I'll 2v1 you cunts on Rust, snipers only
I'll 3v1 you guys easily at that. Let's go.

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there's already a consequence -- epicmafia is down completely for european users and will be forever according to Lucid (site admin)

EU players all have to use VPNs to continue to play
Shit the regulations haven't gone into effect yet. That's fucked.
This is completely unrelated to what this thread is about. Let's not just jump to conclusions and ride the bandwagon.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm just saying that it's fucked the site admins would ban European users when their doesn't seem to be a good reason to do so for now.
I think I'm understanding you perfectly. :p The reason the site has blocked European users has nothing do with the current or upcoming copyrighted content rules this thread is about.
I don't think they banned Europeans for the looming copyright rules. When I say they haven't voted on it yet, I'm wondering what reason they have to ban people from Europe because there doesn't seem to be any good one so It looks pretty fucked to me. tbh if I thought they did it because of the new proposed regulations I would say it sucks but it's understandable.

I need to clarify my thoughts better in the future it looks like. . .
Yeah, that comment was unclear and ambiguous as best. When Class says there's already a consequence of the copyright bill and you follow it up with "that's fucked, the regulation isn't even into effect yet", I think almost everyone would interpret that as you both assuming the same thing.

Oh and the reason Epicmafia has blocked Europeans is that the GDPR came into effect last week. :p
but why? The GDPR is about companies being forced to deal with user info better, right? Otherwise they get fined? Does that mean that Epicmafia just don't wanna play ball?
Pretty much. Most of the GDPR really isn't too difficult to comply with and the risks are low for a site like Epicmafia. If anything, this should be a major cause of concern for American users too. The fact that they'd rather just block the entirety of Europe than be transparent, honest and fair about how they deal with your personal information is pretty worrying and suggests they might be doing some shady stuf.

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Gaming / Re: Halo: What Category do you fall under?
« on: June 01, 2018, 03:58:57 AM »
Halo 3 best Halo, miss me with that reach shit
This man knows what's up.

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Is this gonna cause a second wave of user agreement email hell?
Nope.

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there's already a consequence -- epicmafia is down completely for european users and will be forever according to Lucid (site admin)

EU players all have to use VPNs to continue to play
Shit the regulations haven't gone into effect yet. That's fucked.
This is completely unrelated to what this thread is about. Let's not just jump to conclusions and ride the bandwagon.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm just saying that it's fucked the site admins would ban European users when their doesn't seem to be a good reason to do so for now.
I think I'm understanding you perfectly. :p The reason the site has blocked European users has nothing do with the current or upcoming copyrighted content rules this thread is about.
I don't think they banned Europeans for the looming copyright rules. When I say they haven't voted on it yet, I'm wondering what reason they have to ban people from Europe because there doesn't seem to be any good one so It looks pretty fucked to me. tbh if I thought they did it because of the new proposed regulations I would say it sucks but it's understandable.

I need to clarify my thoughts better in the future it looks like. . .
Yeah, that comment was unclear and ambiguous as best. When Class says there's already a consequence of the copyright bill and you follow it up with "that's fucked, the regulation isn't even into effect yet", I think almost everyone would interpret that as you both assuming the same thing.

Oh and the reason Epicmafia has blocked Europeans is that the GDPR came into effect last week. :p

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there's already a consequence -- epicmafia is down completely for european users and will be forever according to Lucid (site admin)

EU players all have to use VPNs to continue to play
Shit the regulations haven't gone into effect yet. That's fucked.
This is completely unrelated to what this thread is about. Let's not just jump to conclusions and ride the bandwagon.
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm just saying that it's fucked the site admins would ban European users when their doesn't seem to be a good reason to do so for now.
I think I'm understanding you perfectly. :p The reason the site has blocked European users has nothing do with the current or upcoming copyrighted content rules this thread is about.

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If you really believe that your rifle might stop an evil government then you really do put the milk before the bowl...

Trump is still alive and well despite being a total nut. What is stopping anyone from actually using their legal right to shoot at corruption or tyranny?
Fucking do it already.

But you never did and you never will. You will continue lying to yourself that the gun(s) you have will protect you from an unjust ruler. Completely oblivious to the fact that a US president used fucking nukes on civilians before and if he really wanted, he could drop them on a particularly problematic state to force others into submission.
You could fill a book with reasons why the second amendment provides little to no defense against a tyrannical government.

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Much of the copyright reform is pretty decent but article 13 is definitely a bad part of it. It should be amended or scrapped.

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The Flood / Re: Should Rosanne have been canceled?
« on: May 31, 2018, 05:54:49 AM »
maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized
You're the star of the show. You literally carry its name and embody it in full. You go on and say dumb racist things online. This reflects very poorly on your employer who would be seen as not caring about their high profile representatives being racist in public. They definitely were not in the wrong to fire her.
Did you read what I said? The system shouldnt have to be "we need to keep our sponsors sponsoring us or else we as a business fail!" it shouldnt be where the business needs to have good PR to keep staying relevant, and even if you're the star of the show, whatever you say in your off time is up to YOU. Roseanne wasn't a representative in any way, she was an ACTRESS. Thinking she has to represent the company, or that the status quo of this is a positive thing, is why we keep getting bullshit decisions like this. Of course, in this climate, the company made the right move. But the climate isn't a good one, and should be changed.
I'm curious about the alternative then. This seems like a pretty logical thing that you can't get around. Companies are made up of and represented by people. These people can do good things and bad things. If high profile people at a certain company do shitty things in public, their bad behavior is negatively associated with the company. If the company doesn't do anything it will be seen as condoning it or being okay with that kind of behavior. How do you get around this? I don't see how you can change this system. Act like a hateful moron in public and there will be consequences for your actions. It's perfectly reasonable for this to extend to your work.
Dumb af

not even going to make my shitty night worse by getting into this, but if you look at how this whole situation ended and you think "good", or "too bad for everyone who got their career start/revitalization screwed over because of this, but still good!", then you're part of the problem

racism is bad, duh -- I'm sure roseanne's personal life and career were already over when she sent those tweets - the respectable thing to do is accept her apology, finish up any projects already in motion with her, then reassess if we still want her with us when those projects are done. But NO, we need a knee-jerk firing because we can't dare to look bad in front of sponsors, in front of social media!! We need to be as clean and perfect as we can, even if it means cancelling creative talent, or stifling the development of good tv shows! Because we're not in it to make good TV, we're in it for the bottom line. And if an actor is saying something that could make a sponsor pull out, that could make a bored 17 year old with too much time on their hands start an internet movement - then by God, quality television is secondary to that bottom line.

Yeah, the fucking system needs to be changed. You see no problem with this, you have your values in the gutter.
>this seems to be a logical and natural outcome, please explain how the system could realistically be changed
>"Dumb AF, you're part of the problem, you have your values in the gutter, not even going to get into this"

Class, this is a bad response even by your standards. Can you answer my question and actually give me an alternative to the current and pretty damn natural situation of "people/companies don't want to associate with bad people/companies who do shitty things in public" or is this just going to be more wailing about "the system" and how horrible it is? Regardless of the money, viewer counts and sponsorships involved, shitty people doing shitty things (usually) comes with consequences for them. This is no different.

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there's already a consequence -- epicmafia is down completely for european users and will be forever according to Lucid (site admin)

EU players all have to use VPNs to continue to play
Shit the regulations haven't gone into effect yet. That's fucked.
This is completely unrelated to what this thread is about. Let's not just jump to conclusions and ride the bandwagon.

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The Flood / Re: Should Rosanne have been canceled?
« on: May 31, 2018, 05:00:36 AM »
maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized
You're the star of the show. You literally carry its name and embody it in full. You go on and say dumb racist things online. This reflects very poorly on your employer who would be seen as not caring about their high profile representatives being racist in public. They definitely were not in the wrong to fire her.
Did you read what I said? The system shouldnt have to be "we need to keep our sponsors sponsoring us or else we as a business fail!" it shouldnt be where the business needs to have good PR to keep staying relevant, and even if you're the star of the show, whatever you say in your off time is up to YOU. Roseanne wasn't a representative in any way, she was an ACTRESS. Thinking she has to represent the company, or that the status quo of this is a positive thing, is why we keep getting bullshit decisions like this. Of course, in this climate, the company made the right move. But the climate isn't a good one, and should be changed.
I'm curious about the alternative then. This seems like a pretty logical thing that you can't get around. Companies are made up of and represented by people. These people can do good things and bad things. If high profile people at a certain company do shitty things in public, their bad behavior is negatively associated with the company. If the company doesn't do anything it will be seen as condoning it or being okay with that kind of behavior. How do you get around this? I don't see how you can change this system. Act like a hateful moron in public and there will be consequences for your actions. It's perfectly reasonable for this to extend to your work.

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Of course. I don't think the second amendment should even be considered a right to begin with.

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The Flood / Re: Should Rosanne have been canceled?
« on: May 31, 2018, 03:17:03 AM »
maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized
You're the star of the show. You literally carry its name and embody it in full. You go on and say dumb racist things online. This reflects very poorly on your employer who would be seen as not caring about their high profile representatives being racist in public. They definitely were not in the wrong to fire her.

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