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Serious / Re: The Religion of Peace beheads a Priest in France
« on: July 26, 2016, 04:17:49 PM »
So you guys are saying when ISIS is slaughtering people in their own countries, it doesn't matter and you don't care?

Doesn't that just prove my point?
I have as much right to meddle in the affairs of Islamic countries as Muslims have the right to meddle in ours.

That is, none.

Is it upsetting? Sometimes, depending on the victims. But it isn't our concern.

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Serious / Re: The Religion of Peace beheads a Priest in France
« on: July 26, 2016, 04:12:39 PM »
I find it odd when they attack the middle east and kill their fellow muslims (like the bombing in Kabul which killed 80), you guys don't say your typical repeated statements.

Yet when a western country gets attacked it's suddenly west vs east. At least have some consistency with your hate.

ISIS and the people they inspire are a cancer to the entire world, muslim, western, or otherwise. It's common sense anyone wants any traces of them wiped off the map.
Why would we care about Muslims doing Muslim things in Muslim countries to other Muslims?

I get concerned when they start killing minorities, but disputes between various Islamic factions aren't our concern or our problem until they manifest themselves here.

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The Flood / Lawfags, who was in the wrong here?
« on: July 26, 2016, 04:10:03 PM »
https://youtu.be/DXB988kF3hI
#Invalid YouTube Link#

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Serious / Re: The Religion of Peace beheads a Priest in France
« on: July 26, 2016, 01:53:32 PM »
CRUSADE

FUCKING

WHEN

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Serious / Re: No one worried about NATO and Russia?
« on: July 26, 2016, 01:51:04 PM »
It's all posturing. Putin is not a stupid man.

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Serious / Re: The DNC's corruption seems to be worse than I thought
« on: July 25, 2016, 04:38:04 PM »


kek

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Skimmed through it and I have to say that it was a little disappointing. I was hoping for some actual leaked plan or coordinated effort involving people in positions of serious power, not just some random DNC delegate saying "you can't just say you want to ban them all, you have to frame it as common sense gun legislation to protect our children".
I should've clarified. I doubt you'll see something like that unless it comes among the leaks. Even then, it's not something the party needs to put in writing, it's a fairly obvious strategy.

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Serious / Remember, kids, No Refunds.
« on: July 25, 2016, 04:05:52 PM »
YouTube


>sanders accusing anyone else of demagoguery

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Serious / Clinton Delegate Explains How Democrats Will Ban All Guns
« on: July 25, 2016, 01:49:29 PM »

YouTube


Wew lad this is infuriating.

Spoiler
inb4 some faggot posts some short shit like "good" without elaborating to show us how much he doesn't give a fuck

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Serious / Re: Munich shooting: Several killed in shopping centre
« on: July 24, 2016, 01:14:35 AM »
Hm I'm still wary about this, maybe being half Iranian is just coincidence, but I find it odd that the media is scrubbing Ali from his name.  Could be so people don't assume it was Islamic linked and using the Ali to support that it was.
Media plays with names all the time to do whatever they fell like playing at on that day.
Like with calling the Dallas guy just Micah X instead of Xavier, to subtly draw  references to Malcom X to help fuel racial tensions because the kikes can't have us getting along. That would ruin their Zionist plans.
Exactly.

BLM is a Zionist organization funded by Soros to divide America even further.
akshelly u dumb idiot BLM is russian founded by VLADIMIR PUTIN based on the ideology of ALEXANDR DUGIN to destabilize amerika by funding ethnic identarian groups to undermine (((american))) identity and create a multipolar pluralistic society.

Next they will support the cause of ethnic southerners fighting to free ourselves from YANKEE OPPRESSORS

THE SOUTHERN WHITE AND THE SOUTHERN BLACK ARE NATURAL ALLIES. THE YANKEE IS THE REAL ENEMY

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Serious / THEY KNOW! SHUT IT DOWN!
« on: July 24, 2016, 01:03:25 AM »

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Serious / Re: Munich shooting: Several killed in shopping centre
« on: July 23, 2016, 03:16:20 PM »
Yeah how evil of people to assume it was a Muslim when there has been an attack almost every week.
Not evil, just stupid. Very very stupid.
statistically speaking not very stupid at all

Unless stupidity is now based on how far something deviates from the virtue signalling moralfaggot norms IE "we'll assume it wasn't the most likely suspect"

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Serious / Re: Munich shooting: Several killed in shopping centre
« on: July 23, 2016, 03:14:50 PM »
Clearly the white man is the real terrorists

I am #Islammissile now

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YouTube

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Why is an anti-racism organization also antifascist

this sounds like more like an establishment propaganda club than some kind of tolerance circlejerk

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tl;dr
jesus tear down temple curtains so average joe can do esoteric stuff

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Quote
“Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.…And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.…” (Matt. 27:50, 61). This occurrence, which is attested by the three Synoptic Gospels, marks the end of Christ’s human ministry, in the ordinary sense of the word, since all that follows, from the Resurrection till his final Ascension, is of a miraculous order. Like all sacred events, the portent at the moment of Christ’s death on the cross can be regarded from both a historical and a symbolical angle, since the two views do not exclude one another; in the present case it is the symbolism of the occurrence that will chiefly be considered.

It is important to be reminded of what the veil of the temple of Jerusalem served to mark, namely the boundary between the main portion of the sacred building, where all Jews were admitted and which contained the seven-branched candlestick and the altar of sacrifice, and the Holy of Holies, which was quite empty and into which only the officiating priest could enter. When he did so, the priest had to divest himself of his clothes. Voidness of the place and nakedness of the man are both highly significant indications of what the Holy of Holies stood for in the Jewish tradition, namely “the mysteries” or, in other words, that of which the knowledge, formless and inexpressible, can be symbolized only “apophatically,” by an emptying or divestment, as in the present case. Esoterically speaking, this knowledge can refer only to God in His suchness, the divine Selfhood transcending even being.

Whatever lay on the hither side of the veil, on the other hand, represented the tradition in its more exoteric aspects, which are multiple and formally expressible in various ways.

All three evangelists stress the fact that the veil parted “from the top to the bottom,” as if to indicate that the parting was complete and irremediable and that henceforth no definable boundary would exist between the “religious” side of the tradition and the mysterious or, if one so prefers, between the exoteric and esoteric domains. As far as the human eye was able to discern they were to be merged—which does not mean, of course, that their interpenetration would in any way detract from the reality of each domain in its own order, but that any formal expression of their separation was precluded once and for all. For this to be true, it would mean, among other things, that the central rites of the tradition must be such as to serve this comprehensive purpose and that, with any spiritual “support,” its context alone, and not its form, would provide the clue as to which domain it pertained to in given circumstances.

This gives the key to Christian spirituality as such; it starts from there. Moreover, it can be seen that if the unicity of revelation has needed to be given increasingly diversified expression parallel with the downward march of a cosmic cycle, each traditional form deriving from this necessity must affirm itself, above all, in those particularities that distinguish it from other comparable forms. Thus Islam remains the prophetic tradition par excellence; though the prophetic function itself is universal and though in other cases one may speak of such and such a prophet or prophets, whenever one refers to the Prophet without epithet, one means Mohammed and no one else. Similarly, if one speaks of Enlightenment with a capital E, it is of the Buddha one is thinking; which does not mean, however, that enlightenment does not belong to every avataric founder of a religion—obviously this function will always imply the supreme knowledge—but its presentation under the form of “supreme awakening,” samma sambodhi, nevertheless remains the keynote of Buddhism in a sense not shared by other traditions. With Christianity it is the Incarnation that provides its specific note; in all other cases, one can only speak of such and such an incarnation; emphasis on the word will be relatively more diffuse. The particularity of the Christian tradition, namely its eso-exoteric structure, is closely bound up with this all-absorbing role of Christ as the Incarnate Word, in whom all essential functions are synthesized without distinction of levels.

Apart from this special character attaching to Christianity, it is evident that an authentic and integral tradition could at no time be equated solely with its collective and exoteric aspects. Whatever the nature of the formal framework, the presence (latent or explicit) of the esoteric element is necessary; otherwise the tradition in question would be—to use a common Tibetan expression—“without a heart.” Similarly, a tradition is never reducible to an esoterism alone: hence the need to be firmly anchored in an orthodox exoterism, speaking its scriptural language and making use of such ritual and symbolical supports as it provides; an esoterism trying to function minus its normal exoteric framework would be like a heart without a body, to use the same comparison as before. Belief in the possibility of a quasi-abstract and wholly subjective spiritual life, one in which tradition and the formal expressions of revealed truth do not count, is a typical error of various neo-Vedantist and other kindred movements that have seen the light of day in India and elsewhere in recent times.

Different ways in which the relationship “mysteries-religion” or “esoteric-exoteric” can be given effect to may be profitably studied by comparing some of the principal traditions in this respect. For instance, in the Islamic tradition, where the two domains are defined with particular clarity, “the veil of the temple” has been present from the origins and remains intact to this day; both the law (shariah) and the esoterism (tasawwuf) are traceable back to the Prophet himself. This is why the Islamic arrangements have so often been quoted as a model when this subject has come up for consideration.

With Christianity, as we have seen, a rending of the veil previously extant in Judaism marks the final affirmation of the New Covenant in the face of the Old and, with it, the birth of a wholly independent tradition. In the case of Buddhism, on the other hand, the nonexistence of any such veil is laid down from the start. The Buddha’s saying that “I have kept nothing back in my closed fist” means that in his tradition the purely spiritual interest alone really counts. Although in Buddhism, as elsewhere, an exoteric organization becomes unavoidable from the moment that the number of adherents begins to increase, the fact itself will always remain, from the Buddhist point of view, a matter for regret—something to be accepted contre coeur, under compulsion of events, but never in principle.

Something similar can also be said of Christianity: If Christ’s kingdom, by his own definition, is “not of this world”[1] and if the penalty of casting the pearl of great price before swine is that they “will turn and rend you,” then one of the consequences of the removal of the veil between the Holy of Holies and the more accessible part of the temple (to return to our original symbolism) has been a certain blurring of the distinction between the two domains even where it really applies—the shadow, as it were, of an overwhelming grace. This confusion has expressed itself in the life of the Christian church under the twofold form of a minimizing of what, in spirituality, is most interior and of an excessive focusing of attention on the more exterior and peripheral manifestations of the tradition, and especially on the collective interest treated almost as an end in itself. Carried to extremes, this tendency amply accounts for the fact that it was within the Christian world, and not elsewhere, that the great profanation known as “the modern mentality” first took shape and became, as time went on, the vehicle of “scandal” among all the rest of mankind. If this happening, like everything else of a disastrous kind moreover, comprises its providential aspect, as bringing nearer the dark ending of one cycle and the bright dawning of another, it nevertheless does not escape—by force of karma as Buddhists would say—the curse laid by Christ Himself on all “those by whom scandal cometh.” The pain of the cross, in which all must be involved, is there, in anticipation of its triumph.

To return to our original thesis: The special attention called by the evangelists to the fact that the temple veil was split “from top to bottom” shows that this feature of the great portent was an essential one; the veil once torn asunder can never be sewn together again. To attempt to do so, on any plea whatsoever, would amount to an arbitrary proceeding, one deserving the epithet “heretical” in the strictest sense of the word. The condemnation by the church of “gnosticism” has no other meaning.[2]

Moreover, the fact that the Christian revelation was, before all else, a laying bare of the mysteries had been widely recognized even by theologians having no pretensions to a particularly inward view of things. We have known an ordinary Greek priest say to his congregation that “the entire liturgy is a mystagogy,” using a word belonging to the vocabulary of the ancient Hellenic mysteries and also figuring in the text of the liturgy itself, which does not mean, however, that the man himself will have possessed clear notions of what it really stands for; nevertheless even such a passing reference is in its way significant. Nor is it devoid of interest to point out in the same connection that the Eastern Church, by comparison with the Latin Church, has preserved both in its rituals and in its usual mode of expression a certain “archaism” that anyone who has attended a celebration of the liturgy in a Greek or Russian church could hardly fail to notice; it is not surprising, then, that in the Eastern rite the sacraments are referred to as “the mysteries,” a word that, here again, is charged with associations taken over from the esoteric side of the pre-Christian tradition in the ancient world.
http://www.studiesincomparativereligion.com/public/articles/The_Veil_of_the_Temple-by_Marco_Pallis.aspx

Not going to post the whole thing but this article is full of interesting content. Figured we don't get enough apolitical stuff in Serious.

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Serious / Re: Selfie at the cemetery
« on: July 21, 2016, 01:14:52 AM »
And your solution to this is to get on your knees and worship some guy that doesn't exist and that if he did exist, is not worthy of worship at all for being either supremely cruel or incompetent?
Actually in an Orthodox service we typically stand

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Serious / Selfie at the cemetery
« on: July 20, 2016, 12:20:49 AM »
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"Our civilization’s trajectory is irreversible. We are being psychically culled by illusions, and our machines are now domesticating us. Corporations are plotting to build sub-realities via trendy virtual-reality technology that celebrities will soon endorse as fashion so they may act as gods to the under classes. In a matrix of their own creation, the spiritual peasants are all too eager to submit.

Sexual intimacy will no longer be intimate, the act will be as mundane conversation; we will be monitored by artificial intelligence through every medium for “our own protection”; and humans will always feel incline to erode morality through slogans relating to love and freedom, believing that it is part of evolution, conditioned from birth to worship the institution.

The narrative will not be conquered from within – faith must be put into intangible higher orders. Do not submit to the good of mere machines."

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The Flood / Signs you probably have autism
« on: July 20, 2016, 12:14:17 AM »
>you care about media
>you get excited about movie trailers
>you are genuinely concerned about some controversial game or film promoting a cause you are for or against


this list is not conclusive, there are many more symptoms of autism than those listed here.

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Serious / Re: Considering a religious conversion
« on: July 20, 2016, 12:03:36 AM »

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The Flood / Re: If I was looking to develop a drinking problem
« on: July 19, 2016, 11:59:14 PM »
fireball is my go-to.

Cheap, easy to get down, and it doesn't make you quite as miserable as vodka.

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Serious / Re: Considering a religious conversion
« on: July 19, 2016, 11:54:37 PM »
If u do it remember u have to marry her b4 sex or her dad/brothers will murder you both with a machete

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assault weapons.
God I fucking hate these stupid fucking media buzzwords

there is no such thing as an assault weapon, it's a category invented and used by people who don't know what they're talking about.
So Call of Duty lies to me when I pick the class Assault Rifle?

Well that's just silly!
An assault rifle is a weapon, generally chambered in an intermediate cartridge like .223 Remington or one of the x39 rounds, capable of switching between semi-automatic fire and burst or fully-automatic fire.

"Assault weapon" is a category conjured up by media outlets and used to describe any weapon that looks militaristic or generally scary, because actually using the term "assault rifle" would make their claims factually incorrect. Assault weapon is a useful category because, having no actual meaning, it allows the user to spew complete bullshit without ever technically lying.

Assault rifles are extremely difficult and expensive to acquire in the united states. They're pretty much never used in violent crimes here in the US. Most assault rifles (legally categorized as "machine guns", alongside submachine guns and light and heavy machine guns) are owned by rich dentists or collectors.

Assault weapons are all over the place. They're used in tons of crimes because any weapon can be an assault weapon if you want it to be.

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assault weapons.
God I fucking hate these stupid fucking media buzzwords

there is no such thing as an assault weapon, it's a category invented and used by people who don't know what they're talking about.

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Serious / Re: A Military Coup is Occuring in Turkey
« on: July 15, 2016, 05:54:43 PM »
HOLY FUCKING SHIT THEY'RE FIRING INTO THE CROWD
REMOVE KEBAB REMOVE KEBAB

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Serious / Re: A Military Coup is Occuring in Turkey
« on: July 15, 2016, 05:13:59 PM »

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Fucking hell.

Why is it always france?
It's ridiculously easy to buy illegal firearms in France. Especially AKs.
Aye, and you can thank open borders for the AKs. They pour in from post-communist states, especially the Balkan countries.

That's not to say this wouldn't be a problem with closed borders- there are tons of old stockpiles from WW2 resistance fighters and communist militias during the cold war.

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