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Serious / Re: If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 09, 2014, 11:18:00 AM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.
You're taking what I said out of context. I said I'm not for suppression of ideas, I'm for the suppression of Mein Kampf and by extension all books promoting or glamorizing Nazi ideology.
So you're not for suppression of ideas, you're just for suppression of ideas.
If you think Nazi ideology is important and valuable then there's nothing I can say to you about this.
I wouldn't call it valuable in and of itself, but understanding this ideology, and it's causes and implications, is pretty important if we want to prevent it's resurgence.

When you suppress these ideologies, you radicalize the people that hold them. They'll believe they are being oppressed for their deeply held beliefs. And they'll be right. They can still spread it to others, but they'll be more likely to engage in violent acts.

Not to mention suppression of ideologies is a pretty huge violation of democratic principles.
If you call banning Mein Kampf a "suppression of ideologies" you're just being dumb.

Nobody will be more likely to do anything if the book is banned. It puts us on the path to stop treating the Nazis the way we do and get them off this pedestal they're on.
I can't think of any place where Nazis are put on pedestals. I'd say Nazism is probably the most widely hated thing in human history. Calling someone a Nazi or fascist is the most powerful slur in modern politics. People call the UKIP Nazis, for example, demonstrating a clear misunderstanding of the ideology. If a politician in Germany is accused of Nazism, that's it for his career. Nazis are our boogiemen, the default evil. The word Nazi doesn't even mean National Socialist anymore, it's the new way to call someone an asshole.

I don't know what alternate universe you're living in where Nazism poses a genuine threat to the principles of democracy, but it's not the one the rest of us are in.

The greatest threat to Democracy in the real world comes from within, from those who advocate doing extremely un-democratic things in the name of democracy.

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Serious / Re: Seriously though.
« on: December 09, 2014, 08:13:35 AM »
I like titties

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Serious / Re: If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 09, 2014, 08:12:50 AM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.
You're taking what I said out of context. I said I'm not for suppression of ideas, I'm for the suppression of Mein Kampf and by extension all books promoting or glamorizing Nazi ideology.
So you're not for suppression of ideas, you're just for suppression of ideas.
If you think Nazi ideology is important and valuable then there's nothing I can say to you about this.
I wouldn't call it valuable in and of itself, but understanding this ideology, and it's causes and implications, is pretty important if we want to prevent it's resurgence.

When you suppress these ideologies, you radicalize the people that hold them. They'll believe they are being oppressed for their deeply held beliefs. And they'll be right. They can still spread it to others, but they'll be more likely to engage in violent acts.

Not to mention suppression of ideologies is a pretty huge violation of democratic principles.

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Serious / Re: If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 09, 2014, 06:44:05 AM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.
You're taking what I said out of context. I said I'm not for suppression of ideas, I'm for the suppression of Mein Kampf and by extension all books promoting or glamorizing Nazi ideology.
So you're not for suppression of ideas, you're just for suppression of ideas.

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Gaming / Re: Jennie Bharaj starting Based Gamer. Asking for help.
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:27:25 PM »
All this gamergate drama is really dragging on, just let it die already.
Gosh I thought the flood was bad
I will never back down

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Gaming / Re: Jennie Bharaj starting Based Gamer. Asking for help.
« on: December 08, 2014, 08:27:08 PM »
She seems really cool. Wish I had the money to donate

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Serious / Re: If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 08, 2014, 07:42:16 PM »
Suppression of fascism is not suppression of ideas.
I'd love to know what makes you think fascism isn't composed of ideas.

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Serious / Re: If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 08, 2014, 05:33:13 PM »
That's where you're wrong. You're free from fascism. That shit has no place in a civilized society that values equality and democracy.
Clearly not, if one book is all it takes for your culture to descend into fascism, so much so that it must be banned. If it's that easy, I think this society's values lie elsewhere.

In fact, I would call the suppression of ideas very un-democratic.

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The Flood / There's a joke in here somewhere
« on: December 08, 2014, 03:53:10 PM »

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Serious / Re: A newly-discovered Ayn Rand novel to be published in 2015
« on: December 08, 2014, 01:45:19 PM »
Inb4 lefty butthurt

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Serious / If you live in a country that banned Mein Kampf
« on: December 08, 2014, 01:43:04 PM »
You're not free ;^)

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Serious / Re: Pastor to gays: "I pray that you will commit suicide"
« on: December 08, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »
Pretty sure the God of the universe doesn't give a shit whether you're gay or not.
Has god told you this or are you just projecting your values onto an idealized deity?

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Serious / Re: US, France reach Holocaust Compensation Agreement
« on: December 08, 2014, 12:27:43 PM »
Once again Europe fucks its taxpayers.

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Serious / Re: Am I an asshole for this?
« on: December 08, 2014, 11:22:20 AM »
I could agree with that statement to some extent. It's not from a "Nazi-Eugenics-All-Disabilities-Are-Untermensch" standpoint of course, it's just things like Cystic Fibrosis and the like are shitty diseases to have.

Although saying you can't reproduce because you have asthma might be overdoing it.
Well, I'm a Darwinist to the core. I don't think the state actually needs to intervene. I don't think most people with the really nasty stuff will actually find partners to reproduce with. I just think the ones who can should be responsible enough not to.

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Serious / Am I an asshole for this?
« on: December 08, 2014, 11:09:50 AM »


I don't disagree.

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Serious / Re: Take this poll. Post results.
« on: December 08, 2014, 11:05:52 AM »
Wow, this is my first time outside of the green zone


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The Flood / Warhammer 40K has the worst fanbase
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:18:43 PM »
It seems like "TEH EMPRAH" or "SPEHS MEHRINES" gets brought up in every other thread. Fucking annoying.

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The Flood / Re: Bacon is a meme food
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:16:39 PM »
Murder doesn't taste good to me.

Oh no, I've become one of those vegans!...
Hurr Darwinism is bad cuz my feels said!!!!!!

Let's all live in harmony with the piggies and the fishies and the birdies and the rats and the bacteria and the algae and the protists

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Serious / Re: The Official Serious Reading List
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:11:09 PM »
I would recommend The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus for the philosophy

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Gaming / Re: Red dot LED. Cheating?
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:08:47 PM »

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The Flood / I think the funniest part of Deci's shitposting
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:04:46 PM »
Was how he made it so obvious that it was him.

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The Flood / Bacon is a meme food
« on: December 07, 2014, 10:02:14 PM »
It's not even that good

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Gaming / Re: Fallout 4
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:57:05 PM »
Why the fuck would you want another Fallout game developed by Bethesda?

Other than having awful taste that is.

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Serious / Re: Are you Muslim? Do you live in Kennesaw, Georgia?
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:55:05 PM »
something something quran

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).
It's almost like extremists shouldn't be considered examples of any religion or group.
They shouldn't; jihadists and far-righters alike. They both pervert the Word for their own dark, twisted ideas and for Satan himself
And they can say you do the same and pervert it to tolerate degeneracy and sin for satan himself.

Fuck off with your no true scotsman bullshit.

Religion can be warped and manipulated to make people do or believe anything. Your attitude is a good example. This is what organized religion is for, after all. It's a tool people use to justify their beliefs and actions.

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Serious / Re: Are you Muslim? Do you live in Kennesaw, Georgia?
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:51:44 PM »
So much for the 1st amendment. These Muslims should involve guns in their whatnot so that way they would be able to have their mosque. After all if they did that then these people wouldn't ban the mosque because that would be against guns.
hurr all da amerifats love guns LEL ye ebin maymay :D

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The Flood / Re: Are there reproduction Lee Enfield rifles?
« on: December 07, 2014, 05:58:29 PM »
>wanting a replica
>of an enfield

Just get milsurp brah. It's not a working rifle anyway, it's a historical piece.

If you want a milsurp bolt gun for a weekly raping, do it to a nugget. Enfields and Mausers deserve better treatment.

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Fuckin rekt

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Serious / Re: Will furriers ever become socially acceptable?
« on: December 07, 2014, 05:09:37 PM »
Not to me. I'm just conditioned to be disgusted by people who are into that stuff, and my disgusts are hardwired, to the point where I don't even want to be not disgusted by them. Call me a bigot.

I wouldn't condemn or take away a furry's rights as a human being, though. They're just... weird fucks that kinda creep me out, which doesn't justify a hangnail on a tree sloth, let alone any attempts to violate their rights or anything.

Regardless of my own personal feelings towards them, however, I don't see them ever becoming socially accepted in my lifetime. They're just too out there.
Oh god he's back

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Well, let's see what other countries are in South Asia...

- Bangladesh
- Bhutan
- Burma
- Sections of Far West China
- Nepal
- Pakistan
- Sri Lanka

It's not like we have anything good in the bunch.
Bhutan's not even a real country, it's a totalitarian tourist trap.

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Serious / Re: Are you Muslim? Do you live in Kennesaw, Georgia?
« on: December 06, 2014, 10:31:19 PM »
>Georgia

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