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Gaming / Re: Fallout 4 reviews are in
« on: November 09, 2015, 11:43:42 AM »
Paid hype reviews are right when they hype a game I've convinced myself is good: the corrupt journalist experience

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Gaming / Likelihood my laptop can run Crusader Kings 2?
« on: November 09, 2015, 05:06:23 AM »
Heavily-modded Skyrim runs decent around medium on this thing.

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The Flood / hey das
« on: November 09, 2015, 12:35:45 AM »
Mildly NSFW

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The Flood / Re: Need to clear this up: Sterility is a blessing
« on: November 08, 2015, 08:31:56 PM »
But see not needing to use a condom is irrelevant when you're too old to get it up.

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The Flood / Re: Suicide Girls fans check in
« on: November 08, 2015, 04:54:20 PM »
>he can get off to suicide girls

x^D

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Journalism in all fields is long dead.

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The Flood / Re: >you will never hear a NIN + RAtM collab album
« on: November 08, 2015, 02:20:57 PM »
I don't know if I could handle all those edges

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Serious / Re: Where do you draw the line when it comes to humor?
« on: November 08, 2015, 01:43:21 PM »
There is no line.

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Gaming / Re: Mass Effect: Andromeda teaser
« on: November 08, 2015, 12:11:01 PM »
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Serious / Re: Justin Trudeau appoints a 50/50 gender balanced cabinet
« on: November 07, 2015, 04:30:32 PM »
"Trudeau"
sounds pretty frog to me

You misunderstood what I was asking.

What the hell does "frog" mean? French? Because yeah, Trudeau is a French name.

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Serious / Re: Justin Trudeau appoints a 50/50 gender balanced cabinet
« on: November 07, 2015, 03:46:21 PM »
When will Canadians rise up and drive the frogs out once and for all?

"Frogs"?
"Trudeau"
sounds pretty frog to me

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Serious / Re: Justin Trudeau appoints a 50/50 gender balanced cabinet
« on: November 07, 2015, 03:29:53 PM »
If he just happened to have a significant number of women I wouldn't question it.

But at a 50/50 ratio it's clear this was done to show off how le progressive Trudeau is. It's pretty fucking silly.

When will Canadians rise up and drive the frogs out once and for all?

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Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.

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Serious / Re: Chris Christie is now an undercard
« on: November 06, 2015, 10:21:16 AM »
Chris Christie is literally Hillary Clinton but with more adipose and bootstraps.

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The Flood / Re: Holy fuck
« on: November 06, 2015, 12:34:11 AM »
REMOVE KEBAB remove kebab
you are worst turk. you are the turk idiot you are the turk smell. return to croatioa. to our croatia cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,bosnia we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but fuck asshole turk stink bosnia sqhipere shqipare..turk genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead turk..ahahahahahBOSNIA WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget ww2 .albiania we kill the king , albania return to your precious mongolia….hahahahaha idiot turk and bosnian smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE KEBAB FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. russia+usa+croatia+slovak=kill bosnia…you will ww2/ tupac alive in serbia, tupac making album of serbia . fast rap tupac serbia. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of tupac… you are ppoor stink turk… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

tupac alive numbr one #1 in serbia ….fuck the croatia ,..FUCKk ashol turks no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and contry. 2pac aliv and real strong wizard kill all the turk farm aminal with rap magic now we the serba rule .ape of the zoo presidant georg bush fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and bosnia wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of pig. serbia greattst countrey

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The Flood / flag guy: what kinda flag u want fam
« on: November 06, 2015, 12:24:47 AM »
chalkidiki: just fuck our shit up fam
Spoiler

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The Flood / where the FUCK is Meta
« on: November 05, 2015, 11:06:39 PM »
t4rtbqhwyf

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The Flood / Re: Just went to the gym for the first time AMA
« on: November 05, 2015, 11:05:24 PM »
........how old are you?
18, approaching 19

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The Flood / Re: Just went to the gym for the first time AMA
« on: November 05, 2015, 10:59:48 PM »
Why did you go to the gym?
I hate my body

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The Flood / Re: Just went to the gym for the first time AMA
« on: November 05, 2015, 09:59:27 PM »
Not really. I feel pretty good. Arms maybe a little shakey.

Are you sore yet?

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Gaming / Re: Don't have an Xbone yet? Here's the Sale for It
« on: November 05, 2015, 09:58:14 PM »
>Kinect

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The Flood / AMA Just went to the gym for the first time AMA
« on: November 05, 2015, 09:57:02 PM »
Feels good

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Serious / Re: Election Day 2015: Key Votes to Watch (No Marijuana in Ohio)
« on: November 05, 2015, 05:11:47 PM »
Everyone should be exempt from all laws.
Do you believe that no one should have any rights then?
Law itself is a violation of rights, fam.

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Serious / Re: Election Day 2015: Key Votes to Watch (No Marijuana in Ohio)
« on: November 05, 2015, 05:07:23 PM »
Private companies should be exempt from all laws.
Everyone should be exempt from all laws.

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Standard work week? How dare you infringe on our right to run our business as we see fit.
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Hiring a 7 year old? How dare you infringe on who we hire.
7 year olds are not old enough to consent to this kind of thing
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Basic safety measures? Totally up to us.
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If you have a problem with these practices, boycott business that engage in them.

You have no right to stick your gun in my face and tell me how I can operate a business on property that I own. The only reason you can get away with it is because you have more guns than me, and we live in a sick, selfish culture that allows it so long as the people are thrown gibsmedats.

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Serious / Re: Election Day 2015: Key Votes to Watch (No Marijuana in Ohio)
« on: November 05, 2015, 05:02:47 PM »
Houston voted down HERO.
It IS Texas, so that shouldn't surprise anyone.

and it just boiled down to "They're gonna rape a girl in the bathroom" so that's pretty bad
What the hell is HERO
http://ballotpedia.org/City_of_Houston_Anti-Discrimination_HERO_Veto_Referendum,_Proposition_1_%28November_2015%29#Text_of_measure

Question gives the best summary "Are you in favor of the Houston Equal Rights Ordinance, Ord. No. 2014-530, which prohibits discrimination in city employment and city services, city contracts, public accommodations, private employment, and housing based on an individual’s sex, race, color, ethnicity, national origin, age, familial status, marital status, military status, religion, disability, sexual orientation, genetic information, gender identity, or pregnancy?"
only scumbags think they can tell private employers why they can or can't hire someone.

City services is one thing, private is a whole fucking other.
It really isn't. Discrimination is somethings we need to move away from, not embrace.
If you enforce your worldview through the government you are as morally reprehensible as a Stalinist.

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Serious / Re: Collectivist ideologies are disgusting and toxic
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:59:17 PM »
I honestly don't see what's going to stop me from imposing force in an anarchist society.
Defensive force and social stigma. If you try to mug me I'm going to shoot at you until you leave. If I fail to kill you, and people find out you robbed me, you will face major social consequences.
 
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If I'm not allowed to do such a thing according to your parameters of anarchism then it isn't really anarchism.
In an anarchist society you wouldn't get away with it. Anarchism requires an extreme societal rejection of violence to even come into existence. In a world where nobody is going to give a fuck that you robbed me, we'd never have anarchism in the first place.

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Serious / Re: Collectivist ideologies are disgusting and toxic
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:50:20 PM »
What happens when societal reaction to violence is minimal?
Statism. Again, strong objection to violence is a prerequisite for anarchy to exist in the first place. The society we live in reacts comparatively minimally to violence by my standards. If nobody sees a problem with "might makes right", we go back to where we started.
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Who enforces the idea that no one should be attacked if no one cares for owner A because of something arbitrary like his race, sexuality, religion, etc.
Nobody enforces anything. That's the point. owner A has a right to defend himself from assault, lethally if need be. If owner A is killed and his killer is not rejected and ostracized, society has failed to reject violence and a new state probably isn't far from being established.
A society doomed to collapse when presented reality.
What reality?

Don't give me that Rousseau bullshit.
Any reality in which resources are not equally distributed perfectly. Egg's example was meant to show that hierarchies arise naturally when any person has any sort of perceived advantage over another. People aren't even born with equal physiological properties in this world, much less equal access to resources like water.
And this is supposed to lead to statism how? Resources can never and will never be distributed completely equally.

If people see someone with more and team up to rob him, and they do not face consequences, anarchy was never really established because the people are not sufficiently rejecting violence. In a society with anarchist values, this new gang will be met with defensive force. First individual, and if that fails, organized.

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Serious / Re: Collectivist ideologies are disgusting and toxic
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:16:49 PM »
What happens when societal reaction to violence is minimal?
Statism. Again, strong objection to violence is a prerequisite for anarchy to exist in the first place. The society we live in reacts comparatively minimally to violence by my standards. If nobody sees a problem with "might makes right", we go back to where we started.
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Who enforces the idea that no one should be attacked if no one cares for owner A because of something arbitrary like his race, sexuality, religion, etc.
Nobody enforces anything. That's the point. owner A has a right to defend himself from assault, lethally if need be. If owner A is killed and his killer is not rejected and ostracized, society has failed to reject violence and a new state probably isn't far from being established.
A society doomed to collapse when presented reality.
What reality?

Don't give me that Rousseau bullshit.

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Serious / Re: Collectivist ideologies are disgusting and toxic
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:13:30 PM »
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The social stigma surrounding an act is enough. However effective violence and coercion may be at stopping undesirable behavior, they are morally reprehensible and undesirable in their own right.
This seems like a really awful society to live in. The populace doesn't magically come to others defense all the time. What kind of fantasy world is it where mob justice is fair, reasonable, and effective? Were the lynch mobs the epitome of fair society?
Democracy itself is a form of mob justice, that's what I'm arguing against. What is democratically-imposed law other than a lynch mob sending specially-trained men with body armor and badges to do the lynching?

Ostracism and social stigma do not require violence, and those who try to use violence to impose their ideals and desires should be ostracized themselves if they survive their assaults on other people.

I think it's pretty obvious that a society like what I advocate needs everyone to be on the same page regarding human rights. That's why I know it won't happen in my lifetime. Maybe someday, maybe never. But it is feasible, and far more morally upright than any society that exists or ever has.
Government exists BECAUSE people can't be expected to be moral and considerate in behavior.
They can to a good degree, if the social consequences are steep enough and the community largely shares values.

Any outliers who decide to aggress risk getting themselves killed in defense. It would be a very poor decision.
Except social stigmas and community values can be largely arbitrary and as history has shown, dangerously bigoted.
Well yeah, that's human nature.

These values will exist with or without a state. They'll exist in any setting with one or more humans interacting.

Would you prefer a state exist to back these values up with organized thugs?
Representative democracy weeds out some of the more retarded and radical beliefs in virtue of statesmen and professional politicians being well educated.
Okay, so the lynch mob has imposed designated mob leaders to decide who gets lynched and who receives gibsmedats. Might is still making right, in this societal structure. You're still morally in the same place as you were, maybe worse off since now even mob members may be told to do things against their will.


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Serious / Re: Collectivist ideologies are disgusting and toxic
« on: November 05, 2015, 04:09:18 PM »
What happens when societal reaction to violence is minimal?
Statism. Again, strong objection to violence is a prerequisite for anarchy to exist in the first place. The society we live in reacts comparatively minimally to violence by my standards. If nobody sees a problem with "might makes right", we go back to where we started.
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Who enforces the idea that no one should be attacked if no one cares for owner A because of something arbitrary like his race, sexuality, religion, etc.
Nobody enforces anything. That's the point. owner A has a right to defend himself from assault, lethally if need be. If owner A is killed and his killer is not rejected and ostracized, society has failed to reject violence and a new state probably isn't far from being established.

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