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3181
« on: November 19, 2015, 09:07:41 AM »
3182
« on: November 19, 2015, 09:06:06 AM »
Hate speech policy can be altered by those with power and it's really fucking easy to go from defining hate speech as "Kill all immigrants", to "I don't like immigrants", to "immigration is bad", to "I think we should question immigration".
Would you agree that intent plays a large role in determining hate speech? To use your example, "kill all immigrants" is clearly provoking hate towards a group of people, while "immigration is bad" has no subject to really discriminate against; it's a broad statement that could be expanded upon in a number of ways, most of which do not invoke hate speech.
That depends on what intent is considered acceptable. I, for one, am totally opposed to restriction of any speech other than outright calls to violence. You absolutely have the right to say "All niggers are subhuman scum". I don't think you have the right to say "Let's form a lynch mob".
3183
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:56:24 PM »
Nice meme.
filthy caniphobe muslim
3184
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:53:45 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/18/not-all-heroes-human-french-police-dog-dies-raid/75979746/This morning at 4:30 AM, the french RAID did raid (noshit) an appartment north of Paris, where 6 terrorists were hiding. 3 died, including a female suicide bomber with an explosive belt. 3 were arrested and put in custody. The "brain" behind the Bataclan attacks is believed to be among them. In the assault, a combat dog of malinois breed named Diesel, died. pic related. if you support kebab removal, the FAMAS, and based ninja-tier operators wearing balaclavas, please post : "THANK YOU DIESEL DOG" in this thread, so this brave soldier will be remembered.
3185
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:42:30 PM »
Currently writing a paper on this subject. Anyone got any other good material I can use?
u can use this dick 😂 lmao
3186
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:37:48 PM »
3187
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:03:17 PM »
3188
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:16:11 PM »
External factors play a role in everything- nobody disputes that much.
The question is which factors and what roles.
3189
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:12:38 PM »
I'm going edit the OP to add least charismatic as well
Carter by far
i would say taft
considering all anyone knows about him is that he got stuck in his own bathtub
even if it's apocryphal, that's... not a great legacy as a US president
to be fair though most people don't really know shit about the late 1800s-early 1900s presidents anyway.
3190
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:07:11 PM »
I'm going edit the OP to add least charismatic as well
Carter by far
3191
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:04:56 PM »
JFK, Teddy Roosevelt.
LBJ was charismatic in his own... way.
3192
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:03:13 PM »
Yeah I dislike Turkey, Erdogan is making it really shit. I'd still chose them over Iran though, Iran is the worst.
sunni shit pls leave ALI! ALI!
3193
« on: November 18, 2015, 01:48:46 PM »
"What isn't hate speech?" might be an even better question.
I hate black culture.
I hate Japanese culture.
That's not hate speech--I don't hate black people, and I don't hate Japanese people--I just hate how a lot of them choose to live their lives. I hate their culture.
However, if you try saying either of those two things I just said, you WILL be branded racist.
While people would say you're racist and call that hate speech, I don't think the law would. Just saying I hate X doesn't have a degradation or intimidation factor. The purpose of hate speech laws is to stop terroristic effects on a group. Voicing your opinion wouldn't count. You'd have to say "All black people are niggers and I'll kill every one I see" for it to count as actual hate speech.
That depends a lot on where you are.
3194
« on: November 18, 2015, 01:24:14 PM »
Hate speech as a vague, half-defined idea is essential to a civilized society. Without a fuzzy line drawn socially, bad things will happen.
Hate speech with a definition, backed through policy is an extremely dangerous thing that can bring about the implosion of a civilized society.
all right, glenn beck
would you care to explain how--given if we had the perfect definition--society would collapse under it
unless your point is that there is no perfect definition, to which i'd agree
Effectively, yeah. Hate speech policy can be altered by those with power and it's really fucking easy to go from defining hate speech as "Kill all immigrants", to "I don't like immigrants", to "immigration is bad", to "I think we should question immigration". One year you've got the dominant party outlawing Bible burnings, a few years later you're not allowed to criticize the Bible at all. I should clarify that I don't really think slippery slopes are always a logical fallacy. Social change is incremental.
3195
« on: November 18, 2015, 01:18:37 PM »
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/turkish-soccer-fans-chant-allahu-akbar-paris-attacks-remembrance/Turkey and Greece, neighbors that have been often vicious geopolitical rivals for centuries, have attempted in recent years to reconcile their differences, a move that's been given heightened importance during the growing migrant crisis.
Their soccer teams hadn't played each other in eight years, so Tuesday's friendly match in Istanbul presented an opportunity for a power symbolic display of peace and reconciliation.
Instead, Turkish soccer fans booed and hissed loudly during the moment of silence for victims of the Paris attacks last week, and could even be heard chanting "Allahu Akbar," during the brief pause before kickoff.
Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras had traveled to Turkey to meet with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu for talks centering on stemming the flow of migrants crossing from Turkey into Greece.
The talks Wednesday come as Greek authorities are struggling with the influx of refugees and economic migrants reaching Greek islands from Turkey. The discussions have gained added urgency over indications that one of the Paris attackers may have passed through Greece in October.
More than 600,000 people have reached Greece so far this year. Hundreds died when their overloaded boats sank or capsized. On Tuesday, Tsipras and Davutoglu were in the stadium when the fans started booing. Spoiler REMOVE KEBAB remove kebab
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3196
« on: November 18, 2015, 01:02:59 PM »
Hate speech as a vague, half-defined idea is essential to a civilized society. Without a fuzzy line drawn socially, bad things will happen.
Hate speech with a definition, backed through policy is an extremely dangerous thing that can bring about the implosion of a civilized society.
3197
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:31:28 AM »
:^)
based dawkins
"If you pay to go to a public school, you can't complain if you face institutionalized discrimination"
Yeah, what a guy
You guys really need to stop throwing around terms like 'institutionalized discrimination' where there is none, because all it will ever end up doing is denigrating actual cases of institutionalized discrimination.
The university didn't offer what these idiots were looking for. Boo fucking hoo. They either have a choice of bucking up and choosing something else, or moving to another university that have the major they want. Crying wolf and throwing temper tantrums accomplishes nothing.
'Institutionalized discrimination' fucking lmao. Anything to establish a victim status for these people.
jfc
Nobody's talking about the fuckin' major. Who gives a shit about the fuckin' major?
the protesters
kek
The point on the major is so far-removed from the primary point of the protests that I literally hadn't even heard that point brought up until today.
It's one of their top demands.
Pretty sure their top demands were for the president to step down and for the racist attitudes of the campus at-large to be addressed more closely.
I encourage you to read the article. Top demands were for a black studies major and increased budget for diversity training. They said they would demand the president step down if they didn't acquiesce by Friday.
Can we address how silly this is? They're threatening to demand he step down? What the fuck. What kind of threat even is that?
3198
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:29:28 AM »
And beating up a reporter for practicing his natural rights instantly undermines any validity, not that there was any to begin with, your cause had.
Also "safe places" are unlawful
Lmao
Please explain how
And you do realize that literally everywhere is a "safe space" in some form or fashion, yes?
You can't impede free speech
Uh...yes, you can.
Really easily, actually.
Just because it's not illegal to talk about something doesn't mean it's accepted socially or academically.
Still doesn't mean it's right though. Dragging someone through the dirt over a mistake or holding an opinion that's not popular isn't right nor is it something we as a society should condone. I don't like Verbatim's options but that doesn't mean I would censor him for being outrageously dumb.
There's a difference between censoring someone's opinions because you disagree with them and dissalowing hate speech in an education environment.
There really isn't. The whole notion of hate speech in the realm of policy is problematic to freedom of expression. It is something malleable, hard to define and easy to abuse. Once you label one thing you don't like hearing "hate speech", inevitably more and more things disliked by those in power become "hate speech". An informal, social standard for what is and isn't acceptable speech is great. A policy attempting to define what speech is or isn't acceptable is opening the door for abuse if it isn't abusive from the start.
3199
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:23:58 AM »
And beating up a reporter for practicing his natural rights instantly undermines any validity, not that there was any to begin with, your cause had.
Also "safe places" are unlawful
Lmao
Please explain how
And you do realize that literally everywhere is a "safe space" in some form or fashion, yes?
You can't impede free speech
Uh...yes, you can.
Really easily, actually.
Just because it's not illegal to talk about something doesn't mean it's accepted socially or academically.
Which is fine and doesn't actually impede free speech at all. Let's not pretend, however, that there are not movements that aim to actually limit legal speech.
3200
« on: November 18, 2015, 06:21:14 AM »
Am I just an asshole for thinking that these moderate Muslims that are fleeing from Islamic government tyranny should group together and fight for their own land back instead?
That's what quite a lot did in Syria IIRC, which is why support for any one group was stalled as no-one could tell who were "the good guys" of the rebels.
We can see how that went.
Wasn't that more to do with factions like the FSA quickly becoming radicalized and/or crushed by Government forces?
That is probably true, but I'm sure they would've loved some decent equipment.
Just look at the Kurds(?) with their support, there's a few gifs of TOW's launching Syrian T-72 turrets into orbit.
>tfw smelly kurds get to shoot G36s >tfw you will never get to shoot a G36 fuck my life
3201
« on: November 17, 2015, 03:06:30 PM »
STEM majors aren't people
3202
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:35:09 PM »
Liberalism is a mental disorder
Liberalism is the most morally sound ideology developed so far. Postliberalism is a cancer that threatens to bring the whole tower crumbling down if it is not stamped out.
3203
« on: November 17, 2015, 02:33:02 PM »
Lol go figure. Of course the hickbelt and the majority of red states won't take in any.
"classism is okay if those I'm prejudiced against are white"
3204
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:23:33 PM »
yes
their show in Chapel Hill is already sold out
shit sucks yo
I could pay over three times the ticket cost to get one from a scalper on stubhub if I really wanted to the fact that scalpers aren't all in prison is proof that government is useless tbh
3205
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:20:29 PM »
yes
3206
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:17:38 PM »
I live and grew up in a super Protestant area and went to a Protestant church as a child.
They are truly the most cancerous denomination of Christianity.
protestantism is in a fucking messy state today beyond even the basic schismatic shit inherent to it. It's turned into a fucking mess between uncommitted social christians in it for the community and the uneducated fundies politicizing their religion and making fools of themselves. One co-opted by the left, another by the right.
3207
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:05:01 PM »
God: what kinda face you want fam
OP: just fuck my shit up
girls: what kinda sex life you want fam jim: dont fuck my shit up
3208
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:04:18 PM »
So it's agreed that first we wipe out Islam, then the protestant heretics.
no, before we destroy the crypto-papists, we must destroy the papists and return Rome to communion with the Church.
3209
« on: November 17, 2015, 12:01:31 PM »
protestants: just fuck my shit up
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