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3121
« on: November 26, 2015, 11:14:47 AM »
Watching this was pretty hard for me. Josh Homme has been a hero of mine since I was 14, so it's strange for me to see him and Jesse like this.
3122
« on: November 26, 2015, 01:24:52 AM »
Might sound lame, but how about asking what made her go for him while she lived happily with you.
It's cause he was a chad
6'1"
muscular
blonde
handsome
Me:
5'10"
Scrawny
awkward
goofy looking
Easy upgrade
And now that you're a chad she's crawling back yeah nigga she's no good move along
3123
« on: November 24, 2015, 05:47:26 PM »
In all seriousness, this is all just a ploy by Putin to drive a wedge between NATO and Turkey. Aside from the US, Turkey is one of NATO's largest military providers, and it is located in a very strategically important location. It is also one of NATO's most controversial members. Remember, Putin is actively trying to dismantle NATO, and what better way to do so than by baiting Turkey into shooting down some Russian jets, thereby isolating Turkey from the rest of NATO? Fuck Putin and fuck Russia. I don't like Erdogan, but Putin is literally Hitler.
go back to the coffee shop, mehmet
Turkey is and has long been more of a liability than an asset to NATO.
Keep sucking that big Russian cock. If Turkey gets kicked out of NATO, then guess who no longer has American nukes stationed right under his nutsack? Like I said, I don't like Erdogan, but Turkey is a necessary asset to keep Russia in line.
Actually, NATO is a necessary asset to keep Russia in line. Turkey needs NATO far more than NATO needs Turkey.
3124
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:24:45 PM »
In all seriousness, this is all just a ploy by Putin to drive a wedge between NATO and Turkey. Aside from the US, Turkey is one of NATO's largest military providers, and it is located in a very strategically important location. It is also one of NATO's most controversial members. Remember, Putin is actively trying to dismantle NATO, and what better way to do so than by baiting Turkey into shooting down some Russian jets, thereby isolating Turkey from the rest of NATO? Fuck Putin and fuck Russia. I don't like Erdogan, but Putin is literally Hitler.
go back to the coffee shop, mehmet Turkey is and has long been more of a liability than an asset to NATO.
3125
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:21:30 PM »
The right to abstain is equally as important as the right to cast a vote.
That being said I consider voting to be a fundamental duty of every citizen.
That's kind of where I sit. I want a larger voter turnout without actually forcing people to do so but I'm not sure how to go about accomplishing such. I think it should be more publicized to people about the importance of casting your vote but idk. I think online voting would help a lot with the issue as well.
Why on earth would you want a large voter turnout, though? Most voters are stupid and misinformed. Hell, most people are stupid and misinformed.
I would think the better outcome would come from a small number of well-informed, motivated voters who really care about the election, rather than a big crowd who only show up because they're required to.
Wouldn't the solution to that be better educating the population on contemporary politics so we have less misinformed people?
if it were possible to implement nonpartisan, unbiased political education, maybe. Good luck achieving that, though.
3126
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:51:13 PM »
The right to abstain is equally as important as the right to cast a vote.
That being said I consider voting to be a fundamental duty of every citizen.
That's kind of where I sit. I want a larger voter turnout without actually forcing people to do so but I'm not sure how to go about accomplishing such. I think it should be more publicized to people about the importance of casting your vote but idk. I think online voting would help a lot with the issue as well.
Why on earth would you want a large voter turnout, though? Most voters are stupid and misinformed. Hell, most people are stupid and misinformed. I would think the better outcome would come from a small number of well-informed, motivated voters who really care about the election, rather than a big crowd who only show up because they're required to.
3127
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:41:13 PM »
States are not moral actors. You know this. There is nothing to gain, geopolitically, from intervening in Myanmar. It's a money pit. Why on earth would any country do anything?
Obviously for the sanctity of human rights worldwide. You say the states are not moral actors but have we not started entire wars of violation of human rights before? I figure you more than anyone would condemn the actions of a group violating basic human rights and call for some sort of action.
I am appalled by this, but you can't really expect world governments to do much without a clear incentive. The US doesn't militarily intervene without benefitting in some way. It is disgusting, yeah, but that's government in general. I honestly can't think of any conflict where the US used human rights as a major pretext for action, let alone where it was the sole cause. Somalia maybe? Maybe?
3128
« on: November 24, 2015, 03:35:00 PM »
Killing the pilot that was on his way to bomb them? How is that a war crime? That's war.
A pilot killed inside of his plane while he flies a sortie is completely acceptable.
A pilot outside of his plane, who has ejected and poses no threat, is a noncombatant and is not to be harmed.
I agree with that but this is part of the Syrian civil war, neither side has any moral integrity. My initial post should have been clearer. My bad
well yeah war crimes are usually just a tool for the victor to stamp out the ashes of the defeated.
3129
« on: November 24, 2015, 02:42:06 PM »
Killing the pilot that was on his way to bomb them? How is that a war crime? That's war.
A pilot killed inside of his plane while he flies a sortie is completely acceptable. A pilot outside of his plane, who has ejected and poses no threat, is a noncombatant and is not to be harmed.
3130
« on: November 24, 2015, 02:38:58 PM »
Immoral and retarded. You all know why I feel that way, at this point.
3131
« on: November 24, 2015, 02:37:36 PM »
States are not moral actors. You know this. There is nothing to gain, geopolitically, from intervening in Myanmar. It's a money pit. Why on earth would any country do anything?
3132
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:38:15 AM »
Fuck pigs
3133
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:22:37 AM »
Nobody is going to back Turkey like people backed Serbia.
I sure hope not. Turkey is only a NATO member when it benefits them.
3134
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:17:00 AM »
Moderate rebels committing a moderate war crime by shooting one of the pilots while he parachutes down. Turkey fucked up big time. Should clarify, AFAIK these guys are Turkmens who are backed by Turkey. Turkey may have inadvertantly assisted them in committing a war crime.
3135
« on: November 24, 2015, 09:40:13 AM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/allsory_allhor/status/669093496624689152Russian SU-24 got shot down by Turkish F16. According to Turkey it was over Turkish airspace and was warned to leave 10 times. According to Russia it never left Syrian airspace. The map of events released by Turkey actually makes it look like they're in the wrong, not sure why they would release that. I swear to god if there's a major war started by Turks I'm fucking done. Turk fucking shits cockblocking as many raids on ISIS as possible, while keeping a 100 mile border wide fucking open for them to resupply. Can we PLEASE kick these faggots out of NATO now?
3136
« on: November 24, 2015, 02:42:06 AM »
Hopefully those 40% are also cool killing themselves
I just called the cops, you subversive fucking shit. Enjoy prison, fascist.
3137
« on: November 24, 2015, 12:33:58 AM »
Skyrim's writing is pretty good the main quest was really shit though. Lore nut or not.
It really isn't if you're deep into Nord lore and Alduin's significance and the metaphysical implications of what's going on. It's pretty crazy shit. As a narrative for people who aren't into all of that though yeah it's kind of bad, and Alduin when he physically appears isn't quite as menacing as he ought to be, mostly because Bethesda was too lazy to implement him in a form larger and more intimidating than the standard dragon.
3138
« on: November 24, 2015, 12:27:42 AM »
Christmas is about as Christian as a bacon sandwich is vegetarian
And few people in this day and age would beef with you for perceiving it that way.
3139
« on: November 24, 2015, 12:22:51 AM »
I think that Christmas has both a secular consumerist and spiritual religious form.
Both are legitimate, but non-Christian revelers should recognize the context behind the holiday and its historical significance, as well as its spiritual significance to Christians.
Non-christians treating Christmas like it has "evolved" and no is no longer a Christian tradition are like white rappers using "nigga".
Christmas has lost pretty much what little Christian meaning and relevance it had, though.
It's a hallmark holiday at this point.
That depends entirely on how it is approached. Plenty of Christians still venerate the day and treat it as very holy. Just because protestant, pop Christianity has lost its reverence doesn't mean all of Christianity has. I consider shopping mall Christmas something distinct from the religious Christmas.
3140
« on: November 24, 2015, 12:21:02 AM »
Christmas doesn't even have Christian origins I don't know what bothers me more about this kind of comment- how ill-informed it is or how often it is made.
Well, explain, so that I may become informed.
Christmas was developed by Romans and placed at the date it is in order to hijack pagan holidays of the time. However, to suggest that Christmas does not have Christian origins is ridiculous. Christmas was developed very specifically as a Christian holiday to specifically replace the pagan Saturnalia- not as an evolution of it. Over time, Christmas took on more and more unique traits, becoming a celebration of Christ's birth down the line. As it spread to western and northern Europe, it picked up many pagan traditions as well as people of different cultures adopted and adapted it to their lifestyles. However, what has remained constant until recent history is Christmas' purpose- the veneration of Jesus Christ, be that in defiance of a pagan majority or in celebration of his birth. It was not until recently that capitalism and consumerism hijacked the holy day and turned it into an economic phenomenon. Christmas in the form most secular people today celebrate may have little to do with Christmas as 4th century Christians celebrated it, but the day is still holy to Christians and largely belongs to them. TL;DR all Christmas has in common with the roman celebration it displaced is the date, and the pagan traditions we today associate with it were picked up later on as new cultures adopted it.
3141
« on: November 24, 2015, 12:04:49 AM »
Skyrim's writing is pretty good. Not Morrowind good but the lore shenanigans going on are really rad.
I'm sure it isn't impressive to someone who only has a cursory understanding of the lore and TES metaphysics, but to someone who is invested in that area it's awesome. Even Oblivion managed to drop some solid lore despite Bethesda's attempts to make the game as outwardly generic as possible.
My impression of Bethesda is that there is a team of extremely creative writers behind the scenes who struggle to push their ideas through the normie marketability filter that is Todd Howard and Zenimax.
3142
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:32:49 PM »
Christmas doesn't even have Christian origins I don't know what bothers me more about this kind of comment- how ill-informed it is or how often it is made.
3143
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:29:06 PM »
I think that Christmas has both a secular consumerist and spiritual religious form.
Both are legitimate, but non-Christian revelers should recognize the context behind the holiday and its historical significance, as well as its spiritual significance to Christians.
Non-christians treating Christmas like it has "evolved" and no is no longer a Christian tradition are like white rappers using "nigga".
3144
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:22:08 PM »
I mean if you hate good writing
3145
« on: November 23, 2015, 11:18:18 PM »
kek
3146
« on: November 23, 2015, 08:56:06 PM »
"Hey, places of education putting restrictions on hate speech against minority groups isn't really an infringement of any kind of constitutional right
But it is
Please leave the United States for once in your life and get a sense of what the rest of the world is like
You know how evil Germany is? How everyone from Bavaria to Berlin is horribly oppressed because neo-nazi rallies are discontinued and you're not allowed to march down the streets stating how Jews are the most evil beings on earth and how we're running the banks?
Because most people's biggest complaint is that they go a bit too far in censoring their video games.
"You don't NEED a fast car"
3147
« on: November 23, 2015, 08:55:09 PM »
"Hey, places of education putting restrictions on hate speech against minority groups isn't really an infringement of any kind of constitutional right
It is if the place of education is funded fully or in part by tax dollars.
3148
« on: November 23, 2015, 07:46:24 PM »
I hate how I don't fully agree with any of you.
I feel so alone 😩
how do you feel chally? :3
3149
« on: November 23, 2015, 06:09:54 PM »
Pretty sceptical of the outcomes of these surveys as those responses can mean quite a few things.
Such as?
Pretty big difference between opposing someone's ability to criticise minorities and the harm some of their beliefs and practices might cause for our society on the one hand, and thinking that it should not be legal for people to publicly proclaim that all immigrants are filthy subhuman mudslime niggers who should be round up and eradicated.
You don't get to arbitrarily pick and choose what can and cannot be said in the dialogue of society. Either everything should be allowed to be said, or none of it should be. The only exception should be direct incitement to violence.
We've been doing exactly that, though. Picking and choosing what can or can't be said.
And that makes it right?
For good enough reasons? Sure.
I really don't know how you could extrapolate a good enough reason to clamp down on speech.
The most common reasons are the protection of people and the values in our society, really.
Funny, Hitler felt the same way when he shut down subversive elements like Bolshevism within Germany.
Hitler was also 75 years ago in a completely different age and society. This is a slippery slope.
"muh slippery slope" is not a fallacy when discussing social and policy change which is, surprise, drawn out and gradual.
3150
« on: November 23, 2015, 06:08:49 PM »
Pretty sceptical of the outcomes of these surveys as those responses can mean quite a few things.
Such as?
Pretty big difference between opposing someone's ability to criticise minorities and the harm some of their beliefs and practices might cause for our society on the one hand, and thinking that it should not be legal for people to publicly proclaim that all immigrants are filthy subhuman mudslime niggers who should be round up and eradicated.
You don't get to arbitrarily pick and choose what can and cannot be said in the dialogue of society. Either everything should be allowed to be said, or none of it should be. The only exception should be direct incitement to violence.
We've been doing exactly that, though. Picking and choosing what can or can't be said.
And that makes it right?
For good enough reasons? Sure.
I really don't know how you could extrapolate a good enough reason to clamp down on speech.
The most common reasons are the protection of people and the values in our society, really.
You should probably start with clamping down on Islam then, that is, if we're going down the censorious route of subverting pernicious thought to "protect people and values."
How about we stop clamping down on anything like a bunch of intellectual pussies hiding behind Big Daddy Gubbamint's boots? If an idea must be silenced because it is "damaging" or "dangerous" to the prevailing worldview, that pretty clearly indicates a problem with the prevailing worldview. If an idea cannot defend itself from all others through discourse, it isn't a very good idea. I believe our liberal society can defend itself well enough without us resorting to beating down "subversives".
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