Anyone have a link to the superior version meta posted a while back?

I struggle to believe Cam was a sellout and blew the game because he was paid off....

No, that's not the case at all.

It was the refs who were bought, at minimum. Probably goes higher than that though.

Quote from: Dissonant and Repentant on February 06, 2016, 02:41:13 PM

It just seems to me that political compromise never turns out to be compromise, per se, so much as a kind of ceasefire that allows one side to consolidate power and prepare for an offensive later to take what is left.

It seems dishonest, to me, to call it compromise, when neither side intends to let things sit as they are forever.

Does anyone?

Exactly. I dunno, I'd rather just call it what it is.

Donar.

Let me clear some things up.

You say a right is a right always, so yes I think your choice to choose is your right.

And pro-lifers think that fetuses have a right to life. It's important because these two positions are in conflict and must be resolved.

I mention Western Europe because they are easily known for being better in the human rights department than the US ever has.

Not necessarily. Really depends on whether you consider certain things to be rights or not. I'd think someone who sees fetuses (fetii??) as people would think countries that allow their destruction are abusive.
There's also the limitation of free speech, which most of Europe, not just western europe, has a big fucking problem with.

The US is playing catch up (and always has basically) with a bunch of things in that department, such as health care for a prime example.

The notion that healthcare is a right and not something we should simply strive to provide is pretty iffy tbh fam.

And I say religious because it seems everyone in congress who wants to preserve life is insanely religious and very aggressive about it.

Well yeah, that's a result of our polarized system. Pro-life democrats, and especially pro-life atheists have no platform, and are frequently sabotaged by those on the left who oppose them.

Anyway, yeah, I've been saying that Bernie needs to learn how to calm the fuck down and compromise on some of his plans a little bit as soon as he declared his plan to grant everybody in the country Medicare--at least, if he plans on moving the country further in the right direction.

I know "compromise" is a scary, scary word for a lot of people who bend too far in one direction, but the article does make a fair point in the sense that you simply can't be too extreme with your policies if you want to make it in this country.

It just seems to me that political compromise never turns out to be compromise, per se, so much as a kind of ceasefire that allows one side to consolidate power and prepare for an offensive later to take what is left.

It seems dishonest, to me, to call it compromise, when neither side intends to let things sit as they are forever.

Quote from: ❤ SecondClass on February 06, 2016, 01:34:00 PM

No big deal either way, and no one would flip out if the genders were reversed. This is a non-story.

Here's the same site criticizing men who have bought escorts, broadly denouncing them as "not real men".

Here's The Atlantic, a bastion of progressive liberalism, arguing that escort services are worse than simple prostitution.

Here's another article from The Atlantic detailing a similar story to the OP, basically a romanticized retelling of a journalists night out with a male escort.

Leftists, and leftist journos in particular, are hypocrites. What's new?

I mean I'm with you on this Turkey. It just feels like a non-topic, pointing out hypocrisy in a crowd of hypocrites.

Because if you get raped, which is non consensual, you shouldn't be forced to have the kid.

Which is totally fine from the pro-abortion perspective, but inconsistent with the stance that a fetus is human and subject to the same rights as a child.

If you have a kid via incest, odds are it will be WAY more fucked up than if not.

Again, I know this, and from the pro-abortion perspective there's nothing off about it, but from the pro-life perspective, even retards have rights.

You can think all life is sacred if you want, fine, but don't go forcing your archaic beliefs on everyone who doesn't agree.

Whoooaaaaaaaa there fam. You don't get to pull the muh forced beliefs shit if you're a statist. Imposing policy through force is the universal trait of all government.

That's why I get hung up about it. Old white men trying to make the decision for womens bodies across the entire country.

Them being old, male, or white has no bearing on whether they're right or wrong. Plenty of female politicians enact policies that impact men, but you don't see us bitching about someone outside of our demographic telling us what to do.

I'm undecided, but this "muh bodies" shit always struck me as hypocritical coming from anybody but libertarians, especially when people get upset about the anti-vaccination crowd.

This is exactly why Sanders has to beat Clinton, to crash the Democrat machine.

I'd really like to understand the logic that some conservatives seem to think that a Bernie candidacy would be a layup for Republicans, or that Bernie would be way better than Hillary. Have you even looked at his proposed policies?

His policies are only marginally more radical than Clinton's, he just talks big.

He's much less enthusiastic about gun control than Hillary, which is comforting to me (although anyone who tells you he's pro-gun or even neutral is either a liar or seriously misinformed.

He's also most likely going to fuck everything up in the first four years, meaning the Republicans can sweep him out of office easily in 2020.

"Compromise" isn't an inherently good thing. We don't need compromise, we need more leftist ideals in the government.

This^^^ is actually the attitude of all political parties.

Compromise is nothing more than a ceasefire.

You should never give ground you have a chance of keeping. They'll just come back for the rest later.

He was a mod?

I recall him being a member in the TFS days

deci will single-handedly tear down the tyranny that is turkey and return asia minor to its indo-european roots

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