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1981
The Flood / Re: Swatting is hilarious
« on: February 28, 2016, 11:22:05 PM »
Sometimes you have to turn your brain off for a second to enjoy things.

Swatting for example. It sucks when you THINK about it. But just observing without thinking, it can be pretty funny.

1982
The Flood / Re: Swatting is hilarious
« on: February 28, 2016, 11:14:20 PM »
Nothing funnier than police wasting millions of tax payer dollars
exactly

1983
Gaming / Re: Battlefield 5 might take place during WW1.
« on: February 28, 2016, 11:09:08 PM »
A decent WW1 FPS would be enough for me to buy a next gen console, no lie.

1984
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:55:12 PM »
Christianity focuses on the relationship of an individual with God. This is especially apparent in comparison to its predecessor Judaism, which has an emphasis on the relationship between a people and God.

The Old Covenant, between God and Israel, is collective through its exclusivity. There is an in-group and an out group.

Christ's New Covenant is universal, destroying both in-groups and out-groups. The focus shifts to the individual and his relationship with God.

Ah, I see. But how does that translate to your political views, exactly? Is it just that you were an individualist prior to your conversion, and it carried over? Or do you believe your religious views inform your political ones?
Yes, but a different kind of individualist. No longer does it have to do with the importance of the individual in relation to society, it is about the relationship of the individual to his Self and to God.

And I think any Christian will see his religion inform his political views. Not all of them, but a Christian's politics should come from his worldview. Chief among them being the value of life and aversion to violence. Christianity has nothing to do with stuff like economics or electoral policy, though

1985
The Flood / Swatting is hilarious
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:47:26 PM »
YouTube

1986
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:37:53 PM »
Do you think you could summarise how Christianity favours the individual over the collective?
Christianity focuses on the relationship of an individual with God. This is especially apparent in comparison to its predecessor Judaism, which has an emphasis on the relationship between a people and God.

The Old Covenant, between God and Israel, is collective through its exclusivity. There is an in-group and an out group.

Christ's New Covenant is universal, destroying both in-groups and out-groups. The focus shifts to the individual and his relationship with God.

1987
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:41:08 PM »

1988
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:40:06 PM »
Christianity/Baptist.

come at me heathens.
>Baptist

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

1989
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:39:14 PM »
God, in the Christian's case.

And for atheists, the "Other" would be, say, something along the vein of rationality?
Something like that, yeah. These tend to be life-denying, disempowering crap, though, and the atheist tends to be drawn into collectivist thought, which is crap.

I should clarify that I don't have a totally structured worldview at the moment, so if you're seeing holes right now, point them out. I'm building as much as you are. I just consider myself pretty good at tearing down things (values and ideas) that are already built up.

1990
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:27:21 PM »

What do you mean by "Other"?

God, in the Christian's case.

1991
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:22:27 PM »
MAx Stirner wrote that atheists were pious people. This is true. Most, if not all, Atheists formulate their own arbitrary religions based on abstract, socially imposed gods, rather than personal ones. They may lack a belief in afterlife or things which are beyond their senses, but this is the only distinction. There is still the veneration of saints (thinkers, scientists, leaders, reformers), places of worship (various- the university is a popular one), and a myriad of value systems.

1992
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:17:43 PM »
Empiricism is simply slavery of the mind to sense-experience. Tied to modern materialism and skepticism, it traps one behind a door of arbitrary garbage. Evidence, proofs, these are of no intrinsic value outside of the context of an empiricist-skepticist worldview. A worldview that fails to justify itself.

How exactly does that make them a religion/god? I will concede that these things "control" us (in that they dictate our worldview and actions), but to call them a religion just seems intellectually dishonest to me. Almost like an attempt to bring "them" down to "our" level.
Because they are on "our" level, or below it. We choose what we bow to, and those things we bow to should empower us. Christianity is ideal BECAUSE to practice it allows empowerment of the self in two ways- A) closeness to God and escape from eternal torment or nothingness and B) transcendence of servitude to the Self through loyalty to a higher Other, which allows for an orderly life and worldview resistant to the tugging whims of instinct.

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Practice in Christianity is the most important, even Kierkegaard recognized it as such. You probably should read The Sickness Unto Death first or after, though.

This?
[/quote]>paying money for philosophy

here you go
http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Kierkegaard,Soren/TheSicknessUntoDeath.pdf

1993
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:12:08 PM »
What are you getting at?
Christianity is a joke. Door's leading you down a bad path. You will ignore this.
No more a joke than any other life-affirming worldview. Frankly, even the material truth of these worldviews is only somewhat relevant. Real Truth is found by the Self, not the world.

The first instinct drawing one to faith is always in service to the Self. Which is fine at this stage. The Self is empowered by adopting personal guidelines based in tradition (in the sense described by Evola). Even if it were all bullshit, which is isn't, the Self would still be empowered against outside forces and those who worship the arbitrary and imposed.

In this sense one doesn't even necessarily need to be Christian. Muslims tap into tradition as well, although Islam is life-denying and spiritually inferior.

1994
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 09:06:10 PM »
The problem may be that your perception of is/is not has been colored by empiricism, which is a religion in and of itself.

How do you figure?
Empiricism is simply slavery of the mind to sense-experience. Tied to modern materialism and skepticism, it traps one behind a door of arbitrary garbage. Evidence, proofs, these are of no intrinsic value outside of the context of an empiricist-skepticist worldview. A worldview that fails to justify itself.

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I'd recommend going to church

Out of curiosity, what will this accomplish? I'm currently attending a Christian school so I'm already involved with a church. Using its original meaning, that is.
Being involved in organized worship can't hurt.

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and reading scripture, plus

Which version do you recommend? I've been switching between the Harper Study Version and the NIV.
I read an Othodox Study Bible but the various popular versions aren't radically different AFAIK

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looking into Kierkegaard.

Where should I start?
Practice in Christianity is the most important, even Kierkegaard recognized it as such. You probably should read The Sickness Unto Death first or after, though.

1995
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:39:36 PM »
Philisophical pessimism fused with Orthodox Christianity. I don't actually believe that God exists (I can't seem to figure out how to do that while remaining intellectually honest with myself), but I follow most His teachings.
The problem may be that your perception of is/is not has been colored by empiricism, which is a religion in and of itself. A sense of deity isn't something you can easily cultivate.

I'd recommend going to church and reading scripture, plus looking into Kierkegaard.

1996
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:11:35 PM »
I'm an old earth creationist. What up nigga?
Strict biblical literalism is evangelical nonsense developed from Luther's Sola Scriptura bullshit.

It's like a turd took a dump to create another, turdier turd.

1997
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:10:18 PM »
I'm an anarchist
Eh.
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I hate government and I'm also a christian
Contradictory. Christians should pray for civil authorities.
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who supports assyrians
Hopefully in their endeavors to preserve their culture, history, and most importantly their Christian faith. Not out of any desire to promote ethnic nationalism.

1998
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:03:48 PM »
I believe in "I am." The one truth that supersedes all others in my life. "I" being the most basic form of awareness, that is, the awareness that I 'am.' Not "I" as in some white kid named Zach who lives in the USA, smokes pot, and is a deadbeat.
Get to work on that sensus divinitatis

1999
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:02:21 PM »
But I'm an atheistic libertarian who actively worships George Washington and the United States Constitution. I'm the most right person here.
Atheistic libertarianism is okay in terms of functionality but pls know rights are abitrary
Well clearly.
But my morals are more correct than the Democrats' morals.
Morals are spooks without Deity to inspire them.

It's cool to have them but remember their worth comes from YOU, not from them.

2000
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 08:00:56 PM »
we're waiting, you fuckface mcgee
Life-denying

2001
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:59:02 PM »
But I'm a white Christian male who believes in fiscal responsibility based on Christian morals.

Spoiler
Is my sarcasm font working?
Christianity has very little to say about finances or economics.

Pay your tithes, though.

2002
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:58:09 PM »
I don't really care about religion or anything really, just enjoying going about my life.
You're doing better than most, but eventually you will encounter the Absurd and have to choose between serving the Self or transcending the Self in service to that which is higher.

2003
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:57:04 PM »
But I'm an atheistic libertarian who actively worships George Washington and the United States Constitution. I'm the most right person here.
Atheistic libertarianism is okay in terms of functionality but pls know rights are abitrary


2004
The Flood / Re: ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 07:55:34 PM »
Annoism, the cosmic belief in the lord director and screen writer Hideaki Anno.
Weaboos need to leAVE

2005
The Flood / ITT I'll tell you why your religion or worldview is shit.
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:48:31 PM »
gogogo

2006
The Flood / Re: Let us stand for the song of Challenger's people
« on: February 28, 2016, 06:42:28 PM »
>not Kazakhstan

YouTube

2007
Gaming / Re: >Siding with the Quarians
« on: February 28, 2016, 02:49:41 PM »
Geth are the SJW option unless you pick the destroy ending

2009
The Flood / Re: The South is not racist
« on: February 28, 2016, 12:12:25 AM »
I'm only racist against materialists.

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