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Serious / Re: Father killed son because he was gay
« on: April 02, 2016, 01:48:25 PM »
GUESS

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RELIGION
Christian? Both are so up in arms about them gays, but hey that's religion for you.
The shooting occurred Tuesday when police responded to a call at the family home and found the bodies of Amir Issa, 29, and his mother, who was not identified. Officers later arrested Issa’s father, Shehada Khalil Issa, who faces one count of premeditated murder.

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Serious / Re: Father killed son because he was gay
« on: April 02, 2016, 01:34:01 PM »
GUESS

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This could very easily turn into a proxy conflict between Turkey and Russia.
And in other news.
I can't believe things have gotten so fucked up that I'm rooting for Russia of all countries.

Something really must be done about Turkey's actions the last few years. I'd really hate to see Armenia and Azerbaijan dragged into it, though.

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Oh fuck.

This could very easily turn into a proxy conflict between Turkey and Russia.

Even worse, it could be dragged into the greater conflict in the middle east right now.

I'm gonna pray for them.

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There is literally nothing wrong with this, and if you think there is you have no business calling yourself a liberal.
Discrimination bad, equality good!

This isn't a hard concept to figure out.
Oh, I see, I see.

So policies that could require people to act counter to their religious beliefs are okay because LGBTQWTFBBQ rights are more important than religious rights. Gotcha.
You seem to be under the impression that LGBT rights and religious freedom are at odds, and the more LGBT rights there are, the less religious freedom you have.
Clearly you don't understand my position at all.

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look, laws that actively prevent someone from doing something based on sexuality, ethnicity, etc are discriminatory. I do not advocate those. However, as far as I know, this law does not do that.

Unless I have missed something, this law ensures a person can refuse to do business based on their religious beliefs. That is far from discrimination. There are quite a few wedding cake stores in that state. As far as I know.

The liberal position here is that man may choose who he does business with. Sorry, that's it. Like you wouldn't ask a gay man to bake a cake that says "god hates fags", a man whose religion is opposed to homosexuality shouldn't be wrangled into making a gay wedding cake.

Now, if this bill actually lays out a policy that discriminates (like the bathroom law in NC), I am misinformed and would be happy to reassess based on the accurate information.

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it must be really scary to be religious in the US - feeling like you're in a constant state of threat and everyone is out to get you,
Nah, that's more of an Evangelical Protestant thing. Every day I read about my brothers in Christ dying by the dozens in the Levant. I know how good we have it.
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so much so that you need to pass laws to 'protect' your freedom.
Is that not the entire point of laws in a liberal republic?

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There is literally nothing wrong with this, and if you think there is you have no business calling yourself a liberal.
Discrimination bad, equality good!

This isn't a hard concept to figure out.
Oh, I see, I see.

So policies that could require people to act counter to their religious beliefs are okay because LGBTQWTFBBQ rights are more important than religious rights. Gotcha.

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Serious / Re: West is Best
« on: April 01, 2016, 03:11:06 PM »
I mean nothing he says is really that wrong

But he's also a fucking weirdo

and pprobably suffers from aspergers

Just parroting shit established on 4chan months or years ago.

OH GOD AND THEN HE HAD TO START IN ON MUH INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM MUH ECONOMIC PROSPERITY MUH TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS MUH TOLERANCE fucking spare me
As if tolerance and individual rights aren't some of the most important traits to foster in a society...
Only insofar as they empower that society. And we really don't know for sure if they're that helpful.

These traits have no inherent value.

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There is literally nothing wrong with this, and if you think there is you have no business calling yourself a liberal.

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Serious / Re: West is Best
« on: April 01, 2016, 03:03:53 PM »
I mean nothing he says is really that wrong

But he's also a fucking weirdo

and pprobably suffers from aspergers

Just parroting shit established on 4chan months or years ago.

OH GOD AND THEN HE HAD TO START IN ON MUH INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM MUH ECONOMIC PROSPERITY MUH TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS MUH TOLERANCE fucking spare me

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Serious / Re: West is Best
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:57:38 PM »
Oh no not that fucking autist vlogger

I really don't want to watch him again but fuck it

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Serious / Re: The American Police Force
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:51:55 PM »
Talking about cops as if they're some kind of monolithic entity is ridiculous. Our police are decentralized and different departments operate differently.
I love how it's just so easy to handwave away murder victims

Regardless of your justifications, something obviously has to be done.
Something was done. The officer in this case was charged with 2nd degree murder.

I do think what was done was somewhat insufficient. But something has been done.

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The Flood / Re: Not in a good place now
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:45:48 PM »
at least you're not deci, you've got that going for you.
IDK, I feel like Deci has improved over time to be above Roman-tier.

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The Flood / Re: WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:24:09 PM »
Okay so a bit of backstory.

This girl is the daughter of my father's best friend from college, and my first girlfriend, from the summer after seventh grade.

Well, I had 'dated' others but she was my first kiss.

We were kind of born to be together, and through the years we've met each other in very different places in life, reaching across many locations and stages of maturity.

The problem with fate is, it isn't always what you want.

The truth is I never loved her, and while we had fun, my truest love will always be someone else.

Now I've loved a handful of people, maybe two or three in my time, but only one I can say with utmost certainty will have my heart until the day I die.

I genuinely believe that the universe said it was supposed to be this girl, but my heart chose someone else just a few months later.

But she adheres to the script laid before us, and I don't think even though I will never have my true love, that I can ever give myself to her.

lmao nigga what is this shit hahahahaha like wtf faggot u gay as hell lmaoooooooooooooo

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Serious / Re: The American Police Force
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:19:37 PM »
Talking about cops as if they're some kind of monolithic entity is ridiculous. Our police are decentralized and different departments operate differently.

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Serious / Re: The American Police Force
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:15:06 PM »
it's almost like conservatives are more concerned with college protesters than state-sanctioned murderers.
lmao

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Serious / Re: Favourite Philosopher?
« on: April 01, 2016, 02:11:03 PM »
Kierkegaard
Stirner
Evola

These three have made significant impacts on my worldview. Funny considering how radically far apart they are.

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Serious / Re: Why are liberals so condescending?
« on: March 30, 2016, 12:12:40 AM »
thanks for illustrating perfectly how Republicans are the party of restriction of liberty and rights.
You still haven't addressed why those things would matter, though.

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Serious / Re: Why are liberals so condescending?
« on: March 29, 2016, 11:42:00 PM »
I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
Thanks for proving my point.
Except nothing I said was wrong. The Republican party is the party of restricting rights and freedoms.
We could talk about why that is objectively not true, but then you'd just accuse Republicans of allowing too many dangerous rights and freedoms.

Instead I'm going to ask you why rights and freedoms matter.
Please remind me which party wants to overturn the SCOTUS rulings on Roe v Wade
The Republicans, in order to protect what they see as a child's right to life.

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and Obergefell v Hodges.
I'll give you that, and I'll also point out that gay marriage doesn't matter. Like, at all.
 
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Please remind me which party cut the Voting Rights Act?
I'll have to admit that I don't know enough about the VRA or the politics around it to comment, but I doubt it's as simple as the "Basically Republicans don't want blacks to be able to vote" shit Huffpost tried to sell me when I googled it.

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Remind me which party wants to require ID to vote.
This is just being reasonable, and I'd argue that that doesn't go far enough.

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At least Democrats don't have the gall to claim to be the party of liberty and freedom while acting directly against those values.
They do though.

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Rights and freedoms matter because that's the foundation of our country.
And then you'll probably turn around and tell me the 2nd amendment is outdated, and the removal of native americans was a genocide, and the founding fathers were actually bad guys because they owned slaves. There's a lot more to the founding of the United States than those "rights and freedoms" that YOU and your faction consider legitimate. Do not appeal to it unless you are willing to address or embrace those discrepancies.
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We are not longer the United States of America if we turn away from rights and freedoms.
lmao you sound like Rand Paul

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Serious / Re: Why are liberals so condescending?
« on: March 29, 2016, 11:27:02 PM »
they want small government, but then they try to issue a state/federal legislative that is insanely restrictive in the eyes of many. Of course I'm talking about abortion.
And in the eyes of many others, including the Republicans themselves, this is only restrictive in the same sense that criminalizing murder is restrictive.

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Serious / Re: Why are liberals so condescending?
« on: March 29, 2016, 11:25:30 PM »
Oh I forgot to mention that anyone too far left or too far right are both cancerous and idiots in their own regards. Horseshoe theory and all that.
muh moderation muh common sense muh

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The Flood / Re: Mtn Dew Black Label: Finest Dew to Date?
« on: March 29, 2016, 10:58:43 PM »
B  A  J  A
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Serious / Re: Why are liberals so condescending?
« on: March 29, 2016, 10:48:05 PM »
I'd prefer liberals be condescending towards others instead of conservatives actively denying rights to others.
Thanks for proving my point.
Except nothing I said was wrong. The Republican party is the party of restricting rights and freedoms.
We could talk about why that is objectively not true, but then you'd just accuse Republicans of allowing too many dangerous rights and freedoms.

Instead I'm going to ask you why rights and freedoms matter.

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Serious / The cult of Equality
« on: March 29, 2016, 10:43:56 PM »
Why is equality valued so highly when it is self-evident truth that people aren't born equal?

Don't try to make this about race- it isn't.

It is a matter of fact that individuals are born and develop with different qualities.

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The Flood / Re: "Persians were a civilized people."
« on: March 29, 2016, 05:54:33 PM »
still better than the fucking Spartans (Spartans are still badass though)
And overrated
It amazes me to this day how American pop culture basically worships a bunch of protofascist slave holders.

Literally all of Spartan society was structured around slavery. The spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all the work because the spartans had to train to be ready to keep the slaves in line because the slaves always had to do all of the work because the spartans... and so on.

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The Flood / Re: "Persians were a civilized people."
« on: March 29, 2016, 05:36:02 PM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Silence

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Hero-"Dude the Persian army was like a million dudes and they all got held off by like 1100 spartans and thebans lmao"-dotus

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