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7981
« on: October 16, 2014, 08:48:06 PM »
 Good to see this thing still works.
7982
« on: October 16, 2014, 08:26:58 PM »
It sounds like the story in Spain, though. I am starting to think there's some sort of plot. Maybe a pharmaceutical company paying them to spread it... Just to sell the potential cure?
It was originally one person in Texas, but a nurse broke protocol, got infected, then took a plane to Connecticut.
Notice that as soon as those two Americans got it, we became so concerned and decided to create a vaccine
Please tell me you aren't suggesting the government purposefully allowing this to continue
7983
« on: October 16, 2014, 06:18:50 PM »
Shit id love to be on a septagon podcast.
You'd be the Rush Limbaugh of The Flood.
Does that make me the Rachel Maddow?
7988
« on: October 16, 2014, 03:14:48 PM »
Oh hey this thread is back.
yesir 
Legendary fist bump?
Aw, poor Icy.
I've been waiting for a situation to use that image.
7989
« on: October 16, 2014, 03:12:55 PM »
Oh hey this thread is back.
yesir
Legendary fist bump?
7990
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:49:43 PM »
Go to NYC. You can visit me.
7991
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:39:44 PM »
As Sly posted, we are essentially seeing the Islamic culture go through it's Middle Ages with the use of modern weapons. I'm sure you have (or hope you have) studied the old Islamic and Muslim cultures, kingdoms, and other such examples of their history that existed throughout the European's Dark Ages. Hell, The Ottoman Empire was an example of this for hundreds of years, despite many of it's flaws.
That's the thing though, we don't have hundreds of years to wait for them to faze out the bad. If the goal is for most to ignore large parts of their religion that just goes to show religion is unnecessary.
There are ways to help them that will work to improve the situations in the countries. No matter what, it is going to be slow - they are vastly underdeveloped socially and economically - however, letting them remain in a shit-tier class with places like Haiti only continues to exacerbate the problem.
7992
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:30:20 PM »
The democratically-elected government of Gaza is explicitly genocidal. The Ayatollah of Iran issued a 10-year fatwa for the writing of a novel. I'd hardly motion to call the elections in a government with ties to Hamas and in a theocratic state democratic - much more aligned with the false sense of democracy that comes in a one-party state. But, we shall continue, and I'll keep this brief and continue more once I get back from my exam. This absolutely cannot be brushed off as a few extremists. Islam breeds violence; it perpetuates an "us vs. them" mentality which becomes necessarily true when one side has got this in their psyche. The extent to which Christians and Jews are acceptable in Civil Society is, really, the extent to which they aren't religious. As Sly posted, we are essentially seeing the Islamic culture go through it's Middle Ages with the use of modern weapons. I'm sure you have (or hope you have) studied the old Islamic and Muslim cultures, kingdoms, and other such examples of their history that existed throughout the European's Dark Ages. Hell, The Ottoman Empire was an example of this for hundreds of years, despite many of it's flaws. Yes. The Islamic text has many flaws, many passages that are taken word for word and lead to extremists. Yet we have seen the peaks of Islamic culture. Who is to say you won't get there again by assisting in bringing these countries out of the third world, out of poverty? If Jews followed the teachings of Deuteronomy and Leviticus, we'd condemn them regardless of where they were. I'm not saying criticizing the Islamic teachings and cultures is bad - but outright saying it is a religion that is fundamentally broken and only works to breed extremists is no better. To try and claim that anything besides doctrine is what caused the Taliban to shoot Malala Yousafzai in the face, or causes Hamas to launch rockets from besides schools and hospitals, is nothing but an intellectual joke.
And this is where we disagree. As I have said, yes. There are problems with Islam. They are not the sole problems of the region, and they are hardly the most contributing factor.
7993
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:22:10 PM »
As I said, all religious texts have their problems.
That doesn't excuse it and you know it.
Where did I say it did?
7994
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:20:10 PM »
There's far more important things to focus on. Why the federal government is even concerned about this is beyond me. It's another power that's not given to the feds in the Constitution and something that states can do themselves
You do realize a government -should be- capable of doing more than one thing?
We aren't allocating a chunk of time to one issue before moving onto the next.
That's why it focuses on actual important issues, such as ISIS, Ebola, and personal privacy
One of these three is not like the others.
7995
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:18:34 PM »
Heard of you, yet barely know who you are.
7/10
I'm pretty sure that you're following one of my alts.
On B.net? Which one?
7996
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:17:15 PM »
The edge.
I know you're kidding, but I genuinely think it'd be edgier to be an apologist for Islam.
Not at all.
I refuse to see the common sense of opposing a religion for the few extremists who take the religious text word for word. It would be like hating all of Christianity for the WBC.
I'm not opposed to Islam because of extremists, I'm opposed because of shit like this
Surah 4:34
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.
As I said, all religious texts have their problems.
7997
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:12:34 PM »
Ultimately I would like to meet Icy, Sandtrap, Napalm, (Zoltoyde, Catalyst, Burnage Still on B.lind.) Sceptile, Korra, Rocketman.
I know I'm stretching with a couple but still 
Oh and Psychologist.
I'll make it happen
7998
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:11:42 PM »
Heard of you, yet barely know who you are.
7/10
7999
« on: October 16, 2014, 02:10:45 PM »
And are we to ignore that the adoption of such barbaric ideas perpetuates this poverty? There are two options when it comes to human interaction: discussion or violence. Faith cuts the conversation short. You're welcome to believe what you want. Does the religious problems contribute to the poverty? Yes, of course. However, lackluster economic development, unwillingness to advance the uses of their few natural resources aside from oil, and the general climate of the region (We're talking about huge swaths of deserts with little water access) are all significant contributors to the problem - as would be similar in places that are not Islamic, but face similar environmental factors that hinder growth. I'm not going to pretend that the poverty of the region isn't a big issue, but when Muslims in Britain believe such things (and even go to fight for them) and when the relationship between poverty and extremism is questionable in countries like Pakistan I'm not going to get dewy-eyed because I might run the risk of hurting some people's feelings.
I'd be interested in seeing the actual study, considering the article does not link it and only writes that "top American universities" conducted it. And yes, it may not fix the problem in Pakistan. However, Pakistan is not the breeding ground of extremists. Yemen, Somalia, North Africa - they are the breeding grounds. As are the overcrowded refugee camps in Turkey and Jordan - people who have nothing but a tent. If you have that little, you are going to be swayed by anything. Regarding the beliefs of Muslims in Britain regarding this, it simply comes down to being stupid enough to fall for the persuading, or cultural lag.
8000
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:59:04 PM »
I refuse to see the common sense of opposing a religion for the few extremists who take the religious text word for word. It would be like hating all of Christianity for the WBC.
Well I think that criticism relies on the assumption that somebody opposing Islam doesn't also oppose Christianity - which I, personally, do. To claim that Christianity, however, presents as similar a threat to liberal society as Islam does is just farce.
Every religion has it's flaws and problems with it - we're talking religious texts that were created thousands of years ago. You also have to take into account that social and economic problems in countries that are predominately Islamic are vastly worse than the predominately Christian western world. These problems also contribute to the rise of the extremists in said religion - not simply a problematic text.
8001
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:54:45 PM »
People are vastly over-concerned.
8002
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:50:08 PM »
The edge.
I know you're kidding, but I genuinely think it'd be edgier to be an apologist for Islam.
Not at all. I refuse to see the common sense of opposing a religion for the few extremists who take the religious text word for word. It would be like hating all of Christianity for the WBC.
8003
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:46:38 PM »
Time to execute Order 66 on this thread.
It will be done my lord.
*kills all remaining Jedi*
Good. Good.Now, fly to Mustafar and jump in the lava.
8004
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:45:07 PM »
Time to execute Order 66 on this thread.
Initiate lube cannon?
Fire at will.
8005
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:44:08 PM »
Based on what I've learned, NCLB would technically be an underfunded mandate - there is a bit of funding for it, but it's not nearly enough to reach the goals the bill set. However, because of government, this falls under the umbrella of unfunded mandate.
Not aware about the IDEA
8006
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:41:55 PM »
Can we all just admit that we're anti-islam yet?
We've all admitted that, it's the only sane stance regarding Islam.
The edge.
8007
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:40:14 PM »
Time to execute Order 66 on this thread.
8008
« on: October 16, 2014, 01:19:22 PM »
I'll take it if the Canadians can't use it 
Are you EU then?
Nah, sorry. I completely speed read and missed the UK part.
8009
« on: October 16, 2014, 12:25:38 PM »
I'll take it if the Canadians can't use it
8010
« on: October 16, 2014, 11:58:21 AM »
There's far more important things to focus on. Why the federal government is even concerned about this is beyond me. It's another power that's not given to the feds in the Constitution and something that states can do themselves
You do realize a government -should be- capable of doing more than one thing? We aren't allocating a chunk of time to one issue before moving onto the next.
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