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Serious / Re: Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday
« on: November 19, 2014, 12:09:31 PM »
inb4 republican outrage

"Emperor Obama"

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Serious / Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday
« on: November 19, 2014, 12:04:00 PM »
Details

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President Barack Obama will announce this week that he is shielding about 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation and will travel to Las Vegas for an event Friday to promote it, according to sources familiar with the planning.

Senior administration officials began calling immigration reform proponents Wednesday to fill them in on plans for the rollout and the details of the proposal.

The executive actions will cover 4 million undocumented immigrants who would qualify for deferred deportations by using criteria such as longevity in the United States and family ties, according to sources briefed on the discussions. Another 1 million would receive protection through other means, two sources said.

There will be no special protections for farm workers or parents of Dreamers — two categories that groups had lobbied hard for — because there were concerns about those pieces clearing the legal bars, sources said. However, the administration officials noted in their calls, many people who fall into those categories would qualify if they have children who are U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. Dreamers, in contrast, are undocumented immigrants who were brought to this country by their parents as minors.

Obama could announce his plans in a prime time speech Thursday, the senior administration officials told advocates, though it’s unclear that the speech will be broadcast at that time. Top aides, meanwhile, are suggesting that the president will go big.

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson confirmed Wednesday that Obama will make his announcement “in the coming days” and that the reforms the president puts forward will be “comprehensive.” Speaking at an event hosted by the New Democrat Network, a left-leaning think tank, Johnson said the president has “fairly wide latitude” to act under the law.

“He’s going to go as far as he can under the law,” Domestic Policy Council Director Cecilia Muñoz said Tuesday. Still, the administration acknowledges that there are limits to what he can do. “He’s going to be the first to say that it doesn’t fix everything that’s broken.”

Dawn Le, of the Alliance for Citizenship, offered a hint at the timing in an email that the AFL-CIO’s Jeff Hauser forwarded to reporters before asking them to “ignore” the previous note.

“We hear there will be a prime time Thursday evening announcement (to preview) and full unveiling in Vegas on Friday,” Le wrote. “Unclear whether Thursday night content will be what is ‘celebratory,’ but Friday will be where we need a lot of energy guaranteed.”

The president’s turn to executive action comes after pushing House Republicans for more than a year to take up the immigration bill passed by the Senate in June 2013. Obama had long held out hope that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would bring the bill to the floor, but when the speaker told the president that he would not be holding a vote on it in 2014, Obama vowed in a Rose Garden speech to act on his own.
Obama had initially planned to announce executive actions on immigration at the end of the summer but in September the White House said he would put off a final decision until after Election Day, amid Democrats’ concerns that it would create another complication on the campaign trail ahead of the midterm elections.

With a nine-day trip to Asia and Australia behind him and Thanksgiving on the horizon, Obama has spent this week working out the final details of his announcement. The trip to Las Vegas brings him full circle from January 2013, when he launched a push pressuring Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform, repeating the mantra “now is the time.”

He spoke then at Del Sol High School, the same venue that local press reports say the White House has chosen for Friday’s announcement.

Republicans have been preparing to respond in large part by accusing Obama of overreach and by pointing to his repeated statements last year that he did not have the authority to act on certain pieces of immigration reform.

“If ‘Emperor Obama’ ignores the American people and announces an amnesty plan that he himself has said over and over again exceeds his Constitutional authority, he will cement his legacy of lawlessness and ruin the chances for congressional action on this issue – and many others,” Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said Wednesday.

Initial Democratic responses are more positive.

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Wednesday that Obama’s action would put him in the company of “great” presidents, including Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman, who both used their executive authorities to expand rights for African Americans. “I think that President Obama ought to put himself alongside these … great presidents and use [an] executive order to do something big on immigration,” he said on MSNBC.
The legality of the president’s actions, Clyburn added, is up to the courts and not Congress. “Let’s let the courts decide whether it’s constitutional. That’s not for Congress to decide, that’s why we have courts to make that decision,” he said.


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The Flood / MOVED: My professor says we're drinking blood
« on: November 19, 2014, 09:47:49 AM »

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Serious / Re: My professor says we're drinking blood
« on: November 19, 2014, 09:47:39 AM »
Moving this to Serious, because we all know threads like this will turn out.


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The Flood / Re: So. New York's Snowstorm
« on: November 18, 2014, 08:02:16 PM »
You should punch Jack Frost in the face.

Oh, I'm not caught in the storm. I'm on the other side of the state.

Hell, my home, which is less than an hour away, only got a few inches.

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The Flood / Re: So. New York's Snowstorm
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:58:39 PM »
We haven't had a winter like that in years, it's kind of disappointing.

Buffalo gets pounded by snow every year, but almost never this early, and getting five feet in less than 24 hours is unheard of.

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The Flood / Re: What's your secret?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:57:36 PM »
Just gonna explain why this was moved for further reference.

While we understand that it's tempting to put a thread in the Serious forum for serious responses, the forum is there for controversial issues such as political and religious topics, or anything that may be divisive. Threads like this should simply go into The Flood, and let us know if the trolling gets out of line.

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The Flood / So. New York's Snowstorm
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »
Just thought I'd share some photos to everyone currently freezing.



Wall of Snow



Trying to go outside.



This is the expressway. Try driving on that.


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The Flood / Re: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:05:27 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:03:58 PM »
I'll move this to Septagon.
your an fucking idiot

Don't give a damn. I've been up since four this morning, so yeah. I made a mistake.
were u sucking dicks the entire time?

Totally.

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Septagon / MOVED: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:01:42 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:01:36 PM »
I'll move this to Septagon.
your an fucking idiot

Don't give a damn. I've been up since four this morning, so yeah. I made a mistake.


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The Flood / MOVED: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:57:03 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:56:58 PM »
I'll move this to Septagon.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: My opinion of you
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:54:03 PM »

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The Flood / Re: ITT: My opinion of you
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:52:30 PM »
Hush you.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Podcast #1 - Question Segment
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:35:22 PM »
Is it finished?

It's been finished and is in the pipeline to be edited. Expect it (hopefully) within a few days.
How about now?

Swear to god kids, we will get there when we get there.

Do NOT make me pull this car over.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Podcast #1 - Question Segment
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:33:31 PM »
Is it finished?

It's been finished and is in the pipeline to be edited. Expect it (hopefully) within a few days.

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The Flood / Re: Firefox vs. Chrome
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:32:26 PM »
This thread


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Gaming / Time to Feel Old
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:23:27 PM »
Here

13 years ago, the Nintendo Gamecube released.

Discuss this great console.

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The Flood / Re: Making Vegimite Toast. AMA.
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:07:03 PM »
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Vegemite is a dark brown Australian food paste made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives



Yea but that's like half the adventure.

I don't consider regurgitating your food an adventure.

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The Flood / Re: College
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:06:09 PM »
Currently majoring in Journalism with a Minor in Political Science at a state school near NYC.

Taking next semester off, so likely graduating in 2018.

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The Flood / Re: Making Vegimite Toast. AMA.
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:58:06 PM »
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Vegemite is a dark brown Australian food paste made from leftover brewers' yeast extract with various vegetable and spice additives



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The Flood / Re: ITT: My opinion of you
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:51:18 PM »
Shoot.

I like you, you know this. We played Halo 3 a couple times with Vien, 'twas fun. Your a good guy, and I like having you around

Oh god, that was well over a year ago.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: My opinion of you
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:48:58 PM »
Shoot.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Podcast #1 - Question Segment
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:48:11 PM »
When will Anarchy come back in it's original form? Penguin Party was terrible and only had porn.   

It's not.

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Serious / MOVED: I have 36 tabs open in safari
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:46:12 PM »

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Podcast #1 - Question Segment
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:41:50 PM »
Why is the MVP of this site not on the podcast?
The time of day was the suck and I had stuff to do. I'll try to make it to the next one, babe. ;)
No, I mean the real MVP. Me.


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The Flood / Re: >mfw imperial/ancient china rekts yurop
« on: November 18, 2014, 03:28:01 PM »
The discussion value here is....?
Move it to the Flood, where it belongs.

Was gonna give Kinder a chance to edit in some sort of discussion value.


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