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The Flood / Re: FOR THE EMPIRE!
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:47:28 AM »
The lack of logic here is astounding.
Cool. It really does not matter though. You cannot just erase thirty years of established canon, it is there forever, and all Star Wars fans agree on that.

Great - the creator and owners of the franchise say otherwise. You're welcome to believe your thirty years of establish canon is still valid, but in the eyes of future stories, movies, and novels, it is not.

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:44:37 AM »
Yes, both are violations of the law, both are felonies, and both are federal violations.

Virginia education, folks.

Instead of just launching a drone strike, plans could have been made to conduct a night time raid using special forces units just like with Osama. You get the guy and get out.

And waste more money and resources, along with risking lives, over some lowbit American traitor?

If we were able to take down the most dangerous man in the world, we can easily capture some guy

I would HARDLY call Osama Bin Laden the most dangerous man by the time he was finally killed.

It's your attitude on the subject that you're upset he wasn't indicted

Oh, so I've never stated that he should be arrested and tried in my post?

Great. Kindly cease your inferring.

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The Flood / Re: FOR THE EMPIRE!
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:41:02 AM »
False. All content outside of the movies isn't canon.
Nope. It does not matter what Disney or George Lucas say.

The lack of logic here is astounding.

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:27:04 AM »
Funny - Committing check fraud is a violation of the law, doesn't mean the government can just kill the person

Did you really just compare check fraud to committing acts of treason and conspiring to kill innocent civilians?

Funny - Government waited 10 years to find Osama. They could have waited to apprehend this guy

...And yet when we found him...we killed him? Not quite seeing your logic here.

Yeah, they are funny especially when you want to arrest an officer who has been legally proved to not be in violation of the law

Please, find a post where I have stated this and quote me on it here. Please, do that for me.

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:21:19 AM »
You only have certain rights till you violate the law and infringe on the rights of others, as in attacking the nation. In that case you will be killed (if you're currently attacking) or arrested

Funny - the act of treason, along with aiding the enemy, both constitute violations of the law.

Funny - it was impossible to arrest the dude due to his location.

Aren't facts just so funny?

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Serious / Re: Private Military Corporations
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:13:41 AM »
If they exist, they should be held to the same ethics and laws of the United States military (You know, the one's we have in fucking theory).

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 29, 2014, 10:12:03 AM »
Oh boo fucking hoo, cry me a damn river. If you're going to conduct terrorist operations against any nation, then you don't deserve a damn spa treatment

I find it ironic that this comes from the guy that feels Al-Awlaki should have just been arrested.
There's a big difference: One is a citizen of the United States

Oh, so that right isn't an inalienable human right, only for citizens of the United States? Cause if you say yes, that's a fucking joke.

Don't make me laugh.

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 29, 2014, 09:06:18 AM »
Oh boo fucking hoo, cry me a damn river. If you're going to conduct terrorist operations against any nation, then you don't deserve a damn spa treatment

I find it ironic that this comes from the guy that feels Al-Awlaki should have just been arrested.

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Serious / Re: UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 28, 2014, 10:43:32 PM »
UN using the ferguson mess to gain publicity, meh.

Uhh...

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But it had no specific recommendation or reaction to a grand jury's decision not to indict the white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri who fatally shot a black and unarmed teenager.

This report has been in the works for several months (If not well over a year).


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The Flood / Re: Anarchy-time Sep7 is interesting
« on: November 28, 2014, 09:53:11 PM »
It says it's off limits to me.

Request the "Beyond the Sea" nameplate.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:09:35 PM »
These people are by no means heroic, and are by no means helping their cause at all. But meh. I'll leave it at agree to disagree.

People have said the same thing about nearly every large scale protest in history.

But agreed to disagree.
How is blocking the 5 freeway at rush hour helping their cause?

How is not protesting at all, even poorly, helping to fix a problem?

Yes. They planned this poorly. That doesn't mean their cause is retarded, or insignificant, or imaginary.


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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:06:34 PM »
These people are by no means heroic, and are by no means helping their cause at all. But meh. I'll leave it at agree to disagree.

People have said the same thing about nearly every large scale protest in history.

But agreed to disagree.

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Serious / UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:05:41 PM »
Story

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GENEVA (AP) — Police brutality, military interrogations and prisons were among the top concerns of a U.N. panel's report Friday that found the United States to be falling short of full compliance with an international anti-torture treaty.

The report by the U.N. Committee Against Torture, its first such review of the U.S. record since 2006, expressed concerns about allegations of police brutality and excessive use of force by law enforcement officials, particularly the Chicago Police Department's treatment of blacks and Latinos. It also called for restricting the use of taser weapons by police to life-threatening situations. But it had no specific recommendation or reaction to a grand jury's decision not to indict the white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri who fatally shot a black and unarmed teenager.

The report also criticizes the U.S. record on military interrogations, maximum security prisons, illegal migrants and solitary confinement while calling for tougher federal laws to define and outlaw torture, including with detainees at Guantanamo Bay and in Yemen. It also called for abolishing interrogation techniques that rely on sleep or sensory deprivation "aimed at prolonging the sense of capture."

"There are numerous areas in which certain things should be changed for the United States to comply fully with the convention," Alessio Bruni of Italy, one of the panel's chief investigators, said at a news conference Friday in Geneva. He was referring to the U.N. Convention Against Torture, which took effect in 1987 and the United States ratified in 1994.

The U.N. committee's 10 independent experts are responsible for reviewing the records of all 156 U.N. member countries that have ratified the treaty against torture and all "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:02:21 PM »
So blocking traffic is justified in your mind then?

In SoCal rush hour? Probably not?

As they did in Times Square, or other major cities this week? You're damn right.

Are people who have to feed their children or help patients required to care about the protesters cause?

Being so narrow minded continues the problem.
I guarantee none of the people they impeded are sympathetic to their cause now.
Its not narrow minded to need to put food on the table. Or staff a hospital.

Seriously. Are we arguing because people, be it poorly, planned a protest to try and fix an arguably broken system?

Yes. They planned it poorly. Yet, these people are doing something millions of others are too damn lazy to do - protest.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:55:20 PM »
So blocking traffic is justified in your mind then?

In SoCal rush hour? Probably not?

As they did in Times Square, or other major cities this week? You're damn right.

Are people who have to feed their children or help patients required to care about the protesters cause?

Being so narrow minded continues the problem.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:50:42 PM »

If they want their cause to be taken seriously they shouldn't act like assholes. Seems pretty simple.

As I said earlier - American's don't give a flying fuck about protests unless they directly affect us/impedes in our daily lives. If there's just a protest we see as we drive by, we don't give a fuck as a country.


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Serious / Re: US Army "On a mission for both God and country"
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:48:03 PM »
When you think about it, plenty of mainstream religions have a single deity at their head, especially Judaism and Islam. I don't see it as relating to one specific religion
We all know it's intent and implications though...

There's no implications here.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:47:12 PM »
lol @ people supporting these protesters.

Yeah, fuck people trying to make a much needed change
...by preventing nurses from getting to their jobs.

Yes, it's fucked up that they did that.

That doesn't mean the protester's cause, police corruption and problems, simply gets tossed aside like a joke.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:43:18 PM »
lol @ people supporting these protesters.

Yeah, fuck people trying to make a much needed change

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Serious / Re: US Army "On a mission for both God and country"
« on: November 28, 2014, 07:14:21 PM »
I'm sure, if God wants something done, he isn't gonna turn to the United States military to do it.

Let's be honest here.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:46:50 PM »
People are going to argue the same for officers, or for a plethora of jobs.

Passing laws to prosecute protestors, because it's an inconvenience to people, isn't going to make anything better. However, it should be easier for people to find out where protests are going on to adjust travel plans as necessary.
I have no problem with protesting. It's when you cause a serious inconvenience to other people. The fuck are they doing across a road?

Because like it or not, no one in America gives a fuck unless they directly have to deal with it.

Protesting off to the side in a grass? Good luck getting any attention. 

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:43:53 PM »
Stopping people from getting to work is bad enough as it is, but stopping people from working when they're quite clearly in a job of public interest is fundamentally immoral.

The nurses are necessary to the operation of a hospital.

People are going to argue the same for officers, or for a plethora of jobs.

Passing laws to prosecute protestors, because it's an inconvenience to people, isn't going to make anything better. However, it should be easier for people to find out where protests are going on to adjust travel plans as necessary.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:39:47 PM »
I see no problem with the protests.
Causing an obstruction to people trying to get to jobs involved in healthcare should be a prosecute-able offence.

Trying to get to a job involving healthcare? No.
Obstructing healthcare vehicles (Ambulances and such)? Yes, and in some states, I believe it is.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:37:27 PM »
A teen robbed a story and attacked a police officer. It's not rocket science on the reason he died.

We've had this debate, I'm not going to waste my afternoon arguing with someone so thickheaded.

People need to stfu and stop acting like the world revolves around them.

The irony.


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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:33:26 PM »
I see no problem with the protests.
Yep, no problem with destruction of property, robbery, and preventing people from getting to their jobs

> protests
> riots

Pick one. The protests outside of Ferguson have been generally peaceful, so my apologies if you are inconvenienced from getting to work. But, a teen is dead and thousands are upset about that, so to quote BasedLove...

IcyWind don't give a fuck.

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Serious / Re: Hey protesters, some people actually have jobs and a life
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:22:52 PM »
I see no problem with the protests.

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Serious / Re: Lol, turns out China's "miracle growth" is bullshit.
« on: November 28, 2014, 03:20:40 PM »
That's what you get for being a communist nation

#sarcasm

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The Flood / Re: Boypussy
« on: November 27, 2014, 11:41:25 PM »
moist boypussy

The universe will now implode.

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Serious / Re: Video of 12 year old shot (NSFW)
« on: November 27, 2014, 11:26:11 PM »
Of course, we could just stop making fake guns look so goddamn real.
somethingsomething immersion

somethingsomething kids die from it

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Serious / Re: Video of 12 year old shot (NSFW)
« on: November 27, 2014, 11:10:08 PM »
It looks like the cop shot the boy the moment he got out of the car.
Basically.

On top of this, which is true, the 911 dispatcher didn't even make clear to the cops that the person who called even specified he thought the gun could be fake.

Of course, we could just stop making fake guns look so goddamn real.

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