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Serious / Re: Slippery slope is not a fallacy
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:58:52 PM »
I don't oppose the death penalty, and I think the only person here who's vehemently opposed to it is Flee.

I'd say that more people have reservations about the use of the death penalty - it's effectiveness at deterring crimes, it's ethical ramifications, and what qualifications should be met to bring about a death sentence.

So I both agree/disagree with this

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All jokes aside - between Manafort resigning out of thin air after details of his ties to Ukraine & Russia, and Flynn resigning this past week because of his talks to the Foreign Minister, a thorough investigation into these accusations is much needed.

Too bad all desire for Congress to conduct oversight has been tossed into the ocean with an anchor tied to it's leg.

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But it really isn't even a question of whether it's true; the ninth circuit court has no power of judicial review over an executive order. Fuck Trump, but as ineloquently as he put it, they have no judicial authority on the matter.
Do you have any sources on that? I'm no expert on American law because I don't think it's very interesting, but to my knowledge executive orders are definitely subject to judicial review by federal courts. And unless I'm mistaken, circuit courts of appeal are federal and fully capable of assessing the legality of executive orders or have them taken all the way up to your supreme court.

Edit: did a quick search and came up with these:

https://qz.com/898683/can-an-executive-order-be-revoked/
http://www.tolerance.org/blog/executive-orders-and-checks-and-balances

"Executive orders are also subject to judicial review; like laws, they can be challenged in the federal courts and ultimately go all the way to the Supreme Court."

Source: NPR

But in general, executive orders are reviewed by the supreme court, and ever further, courts very rarely interfere with the legislative and executive powers to manage immigration because of the separation of those branches' power.

I'd argue that, considering Obama's EO regarding immigration and the dreamers went through the court system - if i remember correctly.

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Well it's true, executive orders aren't under the purview of the judiciary.
I think it's more so them saying the Judiciary branch is trying to be this big overreaching thing and that what they do WILL NOT be questioned. Which is fucking stupid, it will always be questioned. This isn't Russia or Turkey.
Well having a circuit court rule on the immigration executive order is overreaching. It isn't their place to do so.
I'm not so sure that's true. It would be if the executive order was more clear cut and they just easily redrafted it and made it more clear, instead of just crying about it. It'd easily get passed. In its current state, it's way too damn messy. And even if it doesn't, it'll go to the Supreme Court where it'll soon be in his favor, along with the circuit courts being in his favor whom he appoints.

And that doesn't invalidate the other things the dude said.

Which dude?

But it really isn't even a question of whether it's true; the ninth circuit court has no power of judicial review over an executive order. Fuck Trump, but as ineloquently as he put it, they have no judicial authority on the matter.

Is there legal precedent to say that the ninth circuit court (or any of them) have no power to conduct judicial review on an EO? I've only see articles that say they have that ability.

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Why was this not a problem under Obama?

Ironically, it was for the same side preaching Trump's EO's.

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The Flood / Re: Deci sold me his account; now I'm out of government money
« on: February 09, 2017, 04:12:11 PM »
So much for a legitimate discussion. Now its a new meme.

Did you expect otherwise, asking for $800?

I could buy a new cell phone, 3 Apple Watches, a new laptop, pay rent for a month, or buy 266 cups of coffee with that. But nah, lemme buy your account.
hipster

it's in the gay contract.

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The Flood / Re: Deci sold me his account; now I'm out of government money
« on: February 09, 2017, 04:08:29 PM »
So much for a legitimate discussion. Now its a new meme.

Did you expect otherwise, asking for $800?

I could buy a new cell phone, 3 Apple Watches, a new laptop, pay rent for a month, or buy 266 cups of coffee with that. But nah, lemme buy your account.

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The Flood / Re: I know who Foman and Jen Bush are
« on: February 09, 2017, 04:06:51 PM »
Is it me?

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 04:02:30 PM »
Very well. Locking.

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:59:01 PM »
With that said, you're likely Cheat. Only the staff would break their own rules.

 ::)

And here you are not doing anything again. Allowing people to troll on the serious board in this thread. This was suppose to be a legitimate discussion god dammit.

Would you like me to lock the thread, or cut out every off topic post in this thread?

I'll let you decide that.

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:56:03 PM »
With that said, you're likely Cheat. Only the staff would break their own rules.

 ::)

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The Flood / Re: Going to sell my account who wants it
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:42:51 PM »
$10 for a dick pic

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:41:12 PM »
I'll offer you my collection of rare pepes
he doesn't want dick pics

Damn...

Better not open the message I just sent him.

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:36:16 PM »
Of course this website isn't worth four fucking grand - do you seriously think anyone was going to pay that?

You want to have a legitimate discussion about the community? Fine, go ahead. But making an topic that is LITERALLY around the notion of you wanting $800 for your account only drives the point home that you are making yourself a target for people to parody and mock and belittle.

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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:31:12 PM »
$800 is the lowest the bid will go. No exceptions. No other currency. It must be actual USD. Anyone that lives outside of the united states will need to convert their currency to USD and it must be equal to $800 or higher.

Are you really asking for someone to pay $800 to own your account on a random, backwater Internet forum?

Seriously. Deci. Come on.

What the fuck do you expect me to do? Keep getting shit from alt accounts like JebBush and Foman? I just want some change. Me selling my account was only an idea.

Deci.

It. Is. A. Backwater. Internet. Forum.

Why why why do you bring this attention to yourself? Your account is nothing, it has no value. No one's account on here is worth more than maybe a ripped dollar bill found in a gay stripper's thong.

You are literally repeating the cycle again and bringing more bad attention to yourself.


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Serious / Re: I might end up selling this account
« on: February 09, 2017, 03:23:40 PM »
$800 is the lowest the bid will go. No exceptions. No other currency. It must be actual USD. Anyone that lives outside of the united states will need to convert their currency to USD and it must be equal to $800 or higher.

Are you really asking for someone to pay $800 to own your account on a random, backwater Internet forum?

Seriously. Deci. Come on.

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:47:47 PM »

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The Flood / Re: The truth
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:43:12 PM »
I wouldn't quit the day job Trump got you.

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:42:45 PM »
I mean, I do nothing.

So yes.

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:36:52 PM »
Can we use this thread as justification to ban trolling alts? K thnx bye.

I get why Jeb is around but I find it irritating why the Foman account still exists.

Give me a reason for it not to

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The Flood / Re: The truth
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:35:21 PM »
I love looking at the IP's and seeing the trolling that goes on.

Such fun.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0bQmbaB8vhI

Well that was a colossal waste of twenty seconds

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:29:07 PM »
Do you love messing with Deci that much?

Nah

More that I'm not gonna ban accounts that aren't breaking any of the rules.

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The Flood / Re: The truth
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:25:35 PM »
I love looking at the IP's and seeing the trolling that goes on.

Such fun.

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 03:24:28 PM »
Can we use this thread as justification to ban trolling alts? K thnx bye.

Nah

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If you ban muslims entering your country I wonder how many terrorist attacks there would be in your country?

Do I start a fight?

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The Flood / Re: Hey Deci
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:35:08 PM »
Great life story

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The Flood / Re: why does deci keep getting misgendered
« on: February 07, 2017, 08:35:30 PM »
Deci, where can I send you my sex tape?

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The Flood / Re: In all seriousness
« on: February 07, 2017, 05:15:33 PM »
Nah

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The Flood / Re: why does deci keep getting misgendered
« on: February 07, 2017, 05:09:44 PM »
Nah, but I'd suck his dick.

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