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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:56:51 PM »
The 1990's called, they want their line back.

1142
Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:55:20 PM »
Clinton is subtly implying bias and racism across broad swaths of America.

Shut her up

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:54:07 PM »
Military style guns.

Clinton, pls.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:53:44 PM »
I like how Clinton tried to think of positive contributions of African-Americans and couldn't really think past 'vibrant churches'.

That's all she needs to say to garner support in many places.

But yeah, was shallow

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:50:03 PM »
Telling the moderator they're wrong is never good for any candidate.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:48:17 PM »
I'm sympathetic to Trump's emphasis on law and order.

Problem is, he's preaching to the voters that already are supporting him.

The demographics he needs to appeal to don't want to hear "law and order"

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:45:22 PM »
Clinton is sounding too scripted here. It's a topic that should exhibit more emotion.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:44:53 PM »
tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidate's tax return.
suck his dick a little bit more

thanks

I hate Trump. That doesn't mean I have to support some dumbass archaic institution that flies in the face of privacy rights our country is founded upon.

If you're running for Presidency, you lose the right to claim privacy on matters such as taxes and your health. Because assuming something is up, it can and will directly impact your ability to work.
They're audited by the IRS and other regulatory agencies. There's zero reason the general public needs that data.

And as Holt said, IRS has said there is no reason Trump isn't able to release information while being audited.

Not to mention family of Trump has offered altered reasons as to why they shouldn't be released.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:41:06 PM »
tbh I think it's pretty admirable that Trump refuses to disclose his taxes. It's nobody's fucking business, and the tradition of doing so is such a garbage excuse for the humblebrag that is a candidates tax return.

To be fair, I disagree in the same way I disagree with Clinton on her health forms.

If you're running for Presidency, you lose the right to claim privacy on matters such as taxes and your health. Because assuming something is up, it can and will directly impact your ability to work.

I'd rather candidates release more to ensure that we won't have issues

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:38:29 PM »
He's literally talking in circles now

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:37:18 PM »
Clinton's condescending will hurt her more than Trump's insane statements
she has every right to condescend to a neo Hitler with an IQ of 70

No she doesn't. Polls show that it's not a plus for her.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:36:28 PM »
What was that

1153
Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:35:35 PM »
Clinton's condescending will hurt her more than Trump's insane statements

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:31:50 PM »
This whole debate on policy issues is a joke.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:30:09 PM »
Trump is nervous, you can tell

Lol what? Hillary is literally stumbling over her words.

His hand was shaking like a dogs tail within he first ten minutes while drinking.

It's easing off, but don't act like he's calm and collected.

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:28:37 PM »
Trump is nervous, you can tell

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Serious / Re: Trump vs Hillary, Presidential Debate 2016. HERE WE GO LADS.
« on: September 26, 2016, 08:04:16 PM »
I'm at a watch party for it.

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Serious / Re: Cruz caves in and decides to endorse Trump
« on: September 25, 2016, 07:21:56 PM »
Its because he knows that Trump is gonna win. Needs his support if Cruz ever hopes to win an election again.


Except as it currently stands, Trump would lose by 30-40 electoral votes at his worst. More likely to be within 10, but still a loss.

Just wait until Tuesday morning. It'll all change.

Oh this'll be good.

Why Tuesday?
It's the day after the debate

I'm aware. I'm still asking why Tuesday?

Pollsters (At least reputable ones) aren't going to take a poll Monday night to release Tuesday like people seem to think. If there's any bounces/declines thanks to the debate, it won't be that noticeable until later this week/into early next week.

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Serious / Re: Cruz caves in and decides to endorse Trump
« on: September 25, 2016, 12:53:48 PM »
Its because he knows that Trump is gonna win. Needs his support if Cruz ever hopes to win an election again.


Except as it currently stands, Trump would lose by 30-40 electoral votes at his worst. More likely to be within 10, but still a loss.

Just wait until Tuesday morning. It'll all change.

Oh this'll be good.

Why Tuesday?

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Serious / Re: Cruz caves in and decides to endorse Trump
« on: September 24, 2016, 12:07:02 PM »
Its because he knows that Trump is gonna win. Needs his support if Cruz ever hopes to win an election again.

Except as it currently stands, Trump would lose by 30-40 electoral votes at his worst. More likely to be within 10, but still a loss.

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What? That's not really his brother is it?

It is. He was at the Convention earlier this year, as a delegate for Democrats abroad.
How is this legal

Which part? Being a delegate or running for office in the UK?
Surely someone eligible to be a delegate in the US wouldn't be eligible to run in the UK

I'm not too sure what the Brits require to run for office.

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Serious / Re: Cruz caves in and decides to endorse Trump
« on: September 23, 2016, 02:57:34 PM »
Cruz's political future was damaged well before today. This isn't much news, especially as he primarily focused on saying he will vote for Trump. More of a declaration, not an endorsement.

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What? That's not really his brother is it?

It is. He was at the Convention earlier this year, as a delegate for Democrats abroad.
How is this legal

Which part? Being a delegate or running for office in the UK?

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What? That's not really his brother is it?

It is. He was at the Convention earlier this year, as a delegate for Democrats abroad.

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Serious / Re: Obama and the Middle East
« on: September 21, 2016, 06:48:24 PM »
We don't have unlimited resources and manpower, surely you understand that. It's a pipe dream to say that we can devote our attention equally to every problem in the world.

We have (by far) the largest military in the world, one of the most robust volunteer agencies in the world through the Peace Corps, and are home to some of the larger charitable organizations in the world (Not including the Catholic Church). Yes, resources and manpower is going to finite. However, that isn't to say that we aren't one of the best equipped to actually assist nations that are in need.

Not to mention we often conduct assistance alongside countries who, like us, have similar abilities in terms of military and volunteer manpower.

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Regardless of what you think, immediate threats to us like the Middle East and ISIS are objectively more deserving of our government's concern than whatever is going on in Central and South America that's affecting them first before it affects us.

The needs of the people in the Middle East are not nearly equivalent to the needs of people in, say, Honduras. One requires aid that is more military based, while the other is much more humanitarian.

And again, I'll repeat that the government of the United States is massive - the point where hundreds (if not thousands) can be focused on various issues at any given moment. That's the beauty of bureaucracy.


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I'm saying the idea that we should abandon a very real threat to us for something that isn't immediately impacting us is what's asinine. That's like saying I should ignore the guy pointing a gun to me just because I have skin cancer.

Nowhere did I say that the issues in the Middle East should be ignored, nor do I believe anyone else in this thread did.


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Serious / Re: Obama and the Middle East
« on: September 21, 2016, 06:17:32 PM »
The only strife anyone ever mentions is from the country we're right next door to.

Simply because we only discuss problems in Country A does not mean there aren't issues in Countries B-Z that impact us. Yes, it may be less of an impact because we don't share a land border with them, but to say "There's no strife because no one talks about it!" is, to be blunt, stupid.

I'd be more inclined to believe in problems in the other Latin countries if people actually talked about them.

Or you could just spent ten minutes doing research on the Internet, studying aid efforts going on to assist, etc.

And in the case that they do, are they so important that they focus our attention away from other, more important areas that are far more deserving of our concern, such as Russia's increasing aggression or North Korea's increasing threats?

What is "Multi-tasking" for $1,000, Alex?

You do realize that our government doesn't all operate with eyes on one objective, correct? That the various branches of government are divided up to focus on multiple issues at the same time.

We don't need to waste time, money, and people on problems going on in Chile or Brazil or wherever. They never asked for help in these problems nor is it affecting us.

Sure, Chile and Brazil don't need our help (And even that notion is questionable).

Chile and Brazil aren't the only Latin American countries though. And once again, to stick your fingers in your ear and say the problem impacting nations to our south isn't affecting us is asinine.

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Serious / Re: Obama and the Middle East
« on: September 21, 2016, 06:16:30 PM »
The only strife anyone ever mentions is from the country we're right next door to.

Simply because we only discuss problems in Country A does not mean there aren't issues in Countries B-Z that impact us. Yes, it may be less of an impact because we don't share a land border with them, but to say "There's no strife because no one talks about it!" is, to be blunt, stupid.

I'd be more inclined to believe in problems in the other Latin countries if people actually talked about them.

Or you could just spent ten minutes doing research on the Internet, studying aid efforts going on to assist, etc.

And in the case that they do, are they so important that they focus our attention away from other, more important areas that are far more deserving of our concern, such as Russia's increasing aggression or North Korea's increasing threats?

What is "Multi-tasking" for $1,000, Alex?

You do realize that our government doesn't all operate with eyes on one objective, correct? That the various branches of government are divided up to focus on multiple issues at the same time.

We don't need to waste time, money, and people on problems going on in Chile or Brazil or wherever. They never asked for help in these problems nor is it affecting us.

Sure, Chile and Brazil don't need our help (And even that notion is questionable).

Chile and Brazil aren't the only Latin American countries though.

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Serious / Re: Obama and the Middle East
« on: September 21, 2016, 06:15:08 PM »
The only strife anyone ever mentions is from the country we're right next door to.

Simply because we only discuss problems in Country A does not mean there aren't issues in Countries B-Z that impact us. Yes, it may be less of an impact because we don't share a land border with them, but to say "There's no strife because no one talks about it!" is, to be blunt, stupid.

I'd be more inclined to believe in problems in the other Latin countries if people actually talked about them.

Or you could just spent ten minutes doing research on the Internet, studying aid efforts going on to assist, etc.

And in the case that they do, are they so important that they focus our attention away from other, more important areas that are far more deserving of our concern, such as Russia's increasing aggression or North Korea's increasing threats?

What is "Multi-tasking" for $1,000, Alex?

You do realize that our government doesn't all operate with eyes on one objective, correct? That the various branches of government are divided up to focus on multiple issues at the same time.

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Serious / Re: Obama and the Middle East
« on: September 21, 2016, 01:13:43 PM »

As for Latin America, I don't see much of a problem. Most of the countries there seem to be fine so it continues to make no sense by moving attention to a place that doesn't need it.

You do realize a direct cause of our immigration issue is the strife and conflict occurring in Latin American nations?

While they are doing better than other parts of the world, I would hardly say the region, as a whole, is doing fine.

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