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The Flood / The Sep7agon Analects [Updated: Taking New Submissions!]
« on: December 01, 2014, 07:01:18 PM »
Within the hallowed halls of this thread lie the records of historical Sep7agon events, inscribed into text by IcyWind, the great gay author. Those with suggestions as to additional events should see to the fact that I receive a private message with the event title, date(s), and small sentence describing it for our future members who wish to know our troubled history.



January, 2015

January 4th, 2015 - Hey! It's not Blinding!: After a couple weeks of delay, and a few months of work, Sep7agon 2.0 launches with a new, sleek look to the UI - and future room to grow. Thank you, Based Isara!

January 4th, 2015 - Burned Out: IcyWind resigns as Moderator and is reassigned as a Monitor, with DemonicChronic being reappointed to the role of Ninja. I make it clear now that I will return to the role of Ninja - one day very, very soon.

January 6th, 2015 - Redacted: Classified.



November, 2015

November 7th, 2015 - Musical Chairs Pt 69: Yutaka, the Mexican mod, resigns as Kitsune is promoted to Ninja.


2014 Events
July, 2014
July 27th, 2014 - The Great Journey: The first of the members who survived the nuclear bombings of previous offsite attempts, and those upset with Bungie's favoritism of the plague known as Desticles, reached the shores of Sep7agon. Here, they were greeted by the creator, Cheat, and his sidekick Focnr. Word spread fast among the survivors, and by nightfall, the site had received a couple dozen members - prepared to begin anew.

July 28th - 29th, 2014 - Ninja, Erectus: With the wave of new members continuing to flee the wrath of Bungie and Desticles, it was decided that new Ninja's would need to be located to help police the forums and maintain peace. A vote amongst the current members was held by Lord Cheat, with the faggots known as SoporificSlash, and DemonicChronic being given the power of bringing balance to the forums. Kiyo, who tied with SoporificSlash in the votes, was christened as Ninja a few days later.

July 28th - Invasion: A large contingency of anime fans, including future staffer Yutaka, along with friends Byrne, Tru, Ossku, and others arrive on the website. Despite some problems with spamming for several months, the group has been committed to the site and help drive activity up since this first recorded date.

August, 2014
Month Long - UN Games: A popular feature on the nuked offsites, UN Games continued throughout August under the watchful eyes of SecondClass, TBlocks, and others who dedicated their days to spamming about what their imaginary countries would do to wreak havoc on fictional Earth's. Dubbed "Spam Threads" by several members, the era died off as oversaturation reduced the amount of players, paired with the fact that no one could fucking keep up by the time every country began exploring the other side of the galaxy.

August 1st - 18th, 2014: DDoS This: Sep7agon suffers its first multi-hour outage and is forced to switch to a new host after FatCow kicked us out into the cold. After weeks of incompetence and error messages, Sep7agon made the migration to its final home with Blue Host, where it has resided ever since.

August 2nd, 2014 - It's the Meta: August 2nd marks the first sighting of Meta Cognition, a well known debater from the days of Bungie, posting in the Serious forum with a thread detailing the good and bad forms of taxation. Since this day, Meta has grown in power and become the de-factor ruler of the forum, punishing those with his intellectual superiority and bringing knowledge to the people. No attempts to remove him from power have happened thus far.

August 22nd, 2014 - Monitor's Arrive: As the site continued it's expansion, Lord Cheat felt the Ninja's required slaves to do some of the menial tasks that were beneath them. With this came the creation of the Monitor's - members who received special permission to move and merge threads. TBlocks, Mr.P and Ironman, three of the more popular members, receive this...distinguished honor.

August 29th, 2014 - Anarchy Weekend, Part 1: What happens when an admin gives his community a forum, open only for a weekend, and with no rules? Fucking. Hell.

September, 2014

September 6th, 2014 - Gametacular!: The first official gamenight is held on both Halo 3 and Halo: Reach, featuring all the glorious lag and banshee bombing you remember. Roughly 14 people attended the event.

September 15th, 2014 - Articles Galore: With the growth of the community continuing, Lord Cheat felt it necessary to allow the gentry to submit articles, in order to make the site look like an intellectual beacon. Within the first few days, mass amounts of articles began flowing in, covering books, tv, and movies. By late September, however, a vast amount of the articles consisted of anime reviews only.

September 26th, 2014 - New Ninja's: Lord Cheat watched as his community grew, and felt the need to appoint new Ninja's to ensure peace reigned throughout his land. Mr. P, a Monitor, grew to the rank of Ninja alongside Lord Commissar, a commie who was appointed for his dashing good looks.

October, 2014
October 1st, 2014 - New Slaves!: Yutaka, representing the Weebs, and Icy, who represented the homosapians, were brought on to assist TBlocks with the menial slave work for the Ninja overlords. Ironman, who had become inactive due to school, faded off into the darkness.

October 2nd, 2014 - Booty: Lord Camnator, of the Kingdom of Booty and Cannabis, joins the forums.

October 3rd-5th, 2014 - Anonymous Anarchy: Some say this Anarchy weekend did not happen, that it was a fictional imagination. The October Anarchy displayed the worst of humanity. Spillage from the event continued in the other Forums as total conflict broke out. Lord Cheat, looking at his war torn kingdom, decreed that Anarchy would not be returning, for the people could not handle such freedom.

October 5th - 7th, 2014 - Anarchy Aftermath: War ravaged the forums as accusations of mod bias began, regarding problems stemming from the Anarchy and the mod's ability to control such situations. In the resulting situation, Kiyo was demoted to Forum Ninja, with Mr. P promoted to Master Forum Ninja. Tensions subsided, but the unease remained.

October 7th, 2014 - Metalution: In the chaos that reigned following the end of Anarchy, Meta Cognition migrated from the Serious forum and led a short revolt against Lord Cheat and the Sep7anites. This revolt, which came to be known as the Metalution, demanding peace between the forums and for Lord Cheat to recognize the Metas. The revolt ended a few hours later with the locking of threads, and Meta recognizing that now was not the time for more infighting. 

October 9th, 2014 - Rule Readjusting: With the staff realizing the community was a mess, a revision of the rules took place in order to clarify and ensure they were clear for all to follow. Adopting rules akin to Bungie.old, the community was lukewarm after becoming use to the relaxed rules that were in place since the founding of this new paradise.

October 12th, 2014 - It's a Girl!: With Focnr having departed the staff for a brief period of time, Lord Cheat brought on a new face to the forums, Isara, to help with coding and new features for the forums.

November, 2014
November 1st - 2nd, 2014 - Flightless Birds: Penguin Party arose from the ashes of October's Anarchy. The new weekend long forum put rules into place to ensure the collapse of humanity would not return for this special event. However, reception was average, as the forum simply turned into "The Flood, with Porn"

November 17th, 2014 - More Slaves!: Recognizing that Ironman would be unlikely to return to fulfill the duties of Monitor in the near future, and with Icy's potential resignation looming, Lord Cheat set out to find a new monitor to assist in the tasks. In the end, after a grueling application process, both Sandtrap and Flee joined the staff.

November 20th, 2014 - Achievement Unlocked: Podcast!: Hosted by a Mexican, a Brit, and a Communist, the first ever Sep7agon podcast released to the world. Discussing topics regarding Mexican food, Halo, and community questions, the podcast has been met with good reviews.

November 28th-30th, 2014 - Anarchy Returns: With the lukewarm reception to Penguin Party, and revised rules to handle spillover, Lord Cheat reopened Anarchy to the masses. Despite large amounts of shitposting, the event had improved from it's previous counterpart and was viewed as a success.

December, 2014
December 1st, 2014 - The Analects: Feeling as though the history of our site should be persevered, the Monitor Icy has created this thread in order to ensure that all members, new and old, can look back and understand how far we have come on this site, and how much further we can go.

Late November - December 1st, 2014 - The Canon Wars: With the release of the trailer for Star Wars VII came the anger from Star Wars fans, who vehemently declared the Extended Universe was canon, and that the future movies were not. The various threads debating this have spun numerous parodies from both sides, and the war continues to rage.

December 2nd, 2014 - Power Play: Due to his contributions to the staff, the commie known as LC ascends to the title of Master Forum Ninja, while DemonicChronic is moved down to Forum Ninja.

December 2nd, 2014 - The Unthinkable: Surprising everyone, a thread was made in The Flood announcing RC as the newest admin for the website, with the aforementioned user donning golden colors presented by Lord Cheat. People were in disbelief for the five minutes of RC's reign, before it was put down, as it should be.

December 8th, 2014 - Triumvirate Cracks: After slowly growing distant from the forum for some time, Slash, one of the original three moderators for the website, resigns.

December 9th, 2014 - Musical Chairs: IcyWind and Flee, the gay and the brony, are appointed to Ninja to help ensure staff on the forums at most times during the day. Meanwhile, DemonicChronic and Rocketman287 are named the new monitors to replace them.

December 24th, 2014 - Spam is Not Just a Canned Meat: As a Christmas gift to the forums, the Moderators unlocked a glorified pit of spam, anime gifs, and sex jokes for 24 hours. Don't expect it again.

December 31st, 2014 - Anarchy a Shit!: As a special gift to ring in 2015, Anarchy was opened extra early for a glorious five full days! As always, there was plenty of drama - with a surprising amount of penis and milf images - including the penis of yours truly.

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The Flood / > Triggering
« on: December 01, 2014, 03:17:11 PM »


Loving the new Star Wars canon


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Serious / Is the Israeli State tantamount to Middle Eastern Stability?
« on: December 01, 2014, 12:10:04 PM »
The argument is often thrown around that, with the establishment of a strong democracy like Israel in the Middle East, it will eventually begin to stabilize other countries in the region and help end violence in the region. At the same time, conflicts within the Middle East have been on the rise since the end of World War 1, when the Ottoman Empire dissolved, Palestine came under British rule, and the Israeli State movement really began to gain steam.

So, what are your thoughts?

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The Flood / House of Card Season 3: February 27th, 2015
« on: December 01, 2014, 11:13:24 AM »

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The Flood / To end Anarchy
« on: November 30, 2014, 10:41:42 PM »
AMA bitches.

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The Flood / To the Floodians who live in Florida...
« on: November 30, 2014, 01:30:04 PM »
Just curious - what the hell is the weather like in late January/February?

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Serious / UN Report Criticizes US Torture, Police Brutality
« on: November 28, 2014, 08:05:41 PM »
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GENEVA (AP) — Police brutality, military interrogations and prisons were among the top concerns of a U.N. panel's report Friday that found the United States to be falling short of full compliance with an international anti-torture treaty.

The report by the U.N. Committee Against Torture, its first such review of the U.S. record since 2006, expressed concerns about allegations of police brutality and excessive use of force by law enforcement officials, particularly the Chicago Police Department's treatment of blacks and Latinos. It also called for restricting the use of taser weapons by police to life-threatening situations. But it had no specific recommendation or reaction to a grand jury's decision not to indict the white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri who fatally shot a black and unarmed teenager.

The report also criticizes the U.S. record on military interrogations, maximum security prisons, illegal migrants and solitary confinement while calling for tougher federal laws to define and outlaw torture, including with detainees at Guantanamo Bay and in Yemen. It also called for abolishing interrogation techniques that rely on sleep or sensory deprivation "aimed at prolonging the sense of capture."

"There are numerous areas in which certain things should be changed for the United States to comply fully with the convention," Alessio Bruni of Italy, one of the panel's chief investigators, said at a news conference Friday in Geneva. He was referring to the U.N. Convention Against Torture, which took effect in 1987 and the United States ratified in 1994.

The U.N. committee's 10 independent experts are responsible for reviewing the records of all 156 U.N. member countries that have ratified the treaty against torture and all "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."

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Serious / Michael Brown Verdict due at 9PM EST
« on: November 24, 2014, 06:55:10 PM »
After the problems that arose in the earlier thread, the entire staff wants to make clear that shit slinging, personal attacks, etc. will not be tolerated in any regard. You all know the rules for this forum, and if not, we suggest you read them here before you even consider replying. The mods will be watching this thread carefully, and issuing warnings or further punishments as necessary. Keep it civil, keep it clean, and keep it appropriate.


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ST. LOUIS — Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon issued an urgent plea for calm Monday as prosecutors prepared to announce whether a grand jury has indicted Darren Wilson, the white Ferguson, Mo., police officer whose fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager sparked days of turbulent protests.

While Nixon (D) said he didn’t know what the grand jury has decided, he expressed the fervent hope that “regardless of the decision, people on all sides will show tolerance and mutual respect.’’ Saying he had visited on Monday with Ferguson residents, Nixon said “It’s understandable that they, like the rest of us, are on edge waiting for the decision.’’

But the governor made clear that acts of violence will not be tolerated. “We are making sure that the necessary resources are on hand to protect lives, to protect property and to protect free speech, he said at a news conference, adding that he has deployed the Missouri National Guard to provide security at police stations, fire houses and utility substations.

St. Louis County executive Charlie Dooley issued a similar plea for protesters to remain peaceful. “I want people to think with their heads and not their emotions,’’ he said. “I do not want people in this community to think they have to barricade their doors or take up arms. We are not that kind of community.’’

The strongly worded statements spoke to the growing concern in a community that has been bracing for protests if Wilson does not face charges in the August shooting death of 18-year-old Michael Brown, which triggered a frank conversation about race and police interaction with African Americans.

The decision will be announced Monday night, the county prosecutor’s office said. The office gave no details about what the grand jury has decided. Brown’s family has been notified of the announcement but has not been told about the grand jury’s decision, family attorney Benjamin Crump said.

The grand jury’s decision is the latest turn in a case marked in the national consciousness by the stunning images of clashes between protesters and police wearing riot gear and deploying tear gas in the days after Brown’s death. Details of the grand jury’s deliberations have leaked out in recent weeks, angering the Brown family and protesters who saw it as a signal that no charges would be filed.

Although a parallel federal civil rights investigation of the shooting is continuing, federal investigators have all but concluded that they do not have a case against Wilson, law enforcement officials have said. Federal investigators are also conducting a broader probe of the Ferguson Police Department.

If Wilson is not charged, government officials have discussed emergency plans in the event of a violent reaction, while protest and community leaders have mapped out their response in hopes of avoiding the unrest that exploded after Brown was killed.

In an interview with ABC News that aired Sunday, President Obama called for calm.

“Well, I think, first and foremost, keep protests peaceful,” he said. “You know, this is a country that allows everybody to express their views, allows them to peacefully assemble to protest actions that they think are unjust. But using any event as an excuse for violence is contrary to rule of law and contrary to who we are.”

There's more to the story regarding preparations by police and protestors, feel free to read by going to the link above.


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Serious / Secretary Hagel to Resign amid Pressure from White House
« on: November 24, 2014, 10:21:23 AM »
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WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel handed in his resignation on Monday, the first cabinet-level casualty of the collapse of President Obama’s Democratic majority in the Senate and the struggles of his national security team to respond to an onslaught of global crises.

The president is to announce the resignation from the State Dining Room of the White House at around 11:15 a.m. Eastern time.

Administration officials said that Mr. Obama made the decision to remove Mr. Hagel, the sole Republican on his national security team, last Friday after a series of meetings between the two men over the past two weeks.

The officials characterized the decision as a recognition that the threat from the militant group Islamic State will require different skills from those that Mr. Hagel, who often struggled to articulate a clear viewpoint and was widely viewed as a passive defense secretary, was brought in to employ.

Mr. Hagel, a combat veteran who was skeptical about the Iraq war, came in to manage the Afghanistan combat withdrawal and the shrinking Pentagon budget in the era of budget sequestrations.

Now, however, the American military is back on a war footing, although it is a modified one. Some 3,000 American troops are being deployed in Iraq to help the Iraqi military fight the Sunni militants of the Islamic State, even as the administration struggles to come up with, and articulate, a coherent strategy to defeat the group in both Iraq and Syria.

“The next couple of years will demand a different kind of focus,” one administration official said, speaking on grounds of anonymity. He insisted that Mr. Hagel was not fired, saying that he initiated discussions about his future two weeks ago with the president, and that the two men mutually agreed that it was time for him to leave.

But Mr. Hagel’s aides had maintained in recent weeks that he expected to serve the full four years as defense secretary. His removal appears to be an effort by the White House to show that it is sensitive to critics who have pointed to stumbles in the government’s early response to several national security issues, including the Ebola crisis and the threat posed by the Islamic State.

Even before the announcement of Mr. Hagel’s removal, Obama officials were speculating on his possible replacement. At the top of the list are Michèle A. Flournoy, a former under secretary of defense; Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island and a former officer with the Army’s 82nd Airborne; and Ashton B. Carter, a former deputy secretary of defense.

A respected former senator who struck a friendship with Mr. Obama when they were both critics of the Iraq war from positions on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Mr. Hagel has nonetheless had trouble penetrating the tight team of former campaign aides and advisers who form Mr. Obama’s closely knit set of loyalists. Senior administration officials have characterized him as quiet during cabinet meetings; Mr. Hagel’s defenders said that he waited until he was alone with the president before sharing his views, the better to avoid leaks.

Whatever the case, Mr. Hagel struggled to fit in with Mr. Obama’s close circle and was viewed as never gaining traction in the administration after a bruising confirmation fight among his old Senate colleagues, during which he was criticized for seeming tentative in his responses to sharp questions.

He never really shed that pall after arriving at the Pentagon, and in the past few months he has largely ceded the stage to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, who officials said initially won the confidence of Mr. Obama with his recommendation of military action against the Islamic State.

In Mr. Hagel’s less than two years on the job, his detractors said he struggled to inspire confidence at the Pentagon in the manner of his predecessors, especially Robert M. Gates. But several of Mr. Obama’s top advisers over the past few months have also acknowledged privately that the president did not want another high-profile defense secretary in the mold of Mr. Gates, who went on to write a memoir of his years with Mr. Obama in which he sharply criticized the president. Mr. Hagel, they said, in many ways was exactly the kind of defense secretary whom the president, after battling the military during his first term, wanted.

Mr. Hagel, for his part, spent his time on the job largely carrying out Mr. Obama’s stated wishes on matters like bringing back American troops from Afghanistan and trimming the Pentagon budget, with little pushback. He did manage to inspire loyalty among enlisted soldiers and often seemed at his most confident when talking to troops or sharing wartime experiences as a Vietnam veteran.

But Mr. Hagel has often had problems articulating his thoughts — or administration policy — in an effective manner, and has sometimes left reporters struggling to describe what he has said in news conferences. In his side-by-side appearances with both General Dempsey and Secretary of State John Kerry, Mr. Hagel, a decorated Vietnam veteran and the first former enlisted combat soldier to be defense secretary, has often been upstaged.

He raised the ire of the White House in August as the administration was ramping up its strategy to fight the Islamic State, directly contradicting the president, who months before had likened the Sunni militant group to a junior varsity basketball squad. Mr. Hagel, facing reporters in his now-familiar role next to General Dempsey, called the Islamic State an “imminent threat to every interest we have,” adding, “This is beyond anything that we’ve seen.” White House officials later said they viewed those comments as unhelpful, although the administration still appears to be struggling to define just how large is the threat posed by the Islamic State.


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Serious / SCOTUS Case to Test Limits of Free Speech on Social Media
« on: November 24, 2014, 07:57:15 AM »
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About a week after Tara Elonis persuaded a judge to issue a protective order against her estranged husband, Anthony, her soon-to-be ex had this to say:

“Fold up your PFA [protection-from-abuse order] and put it in your pocket

Is it thick enough to stop a bullet?”

Anthony Elonis didn’t deliver the message in person, by phone or in a note. Instead, he posted it on his Facebook page, for all to see, in a prose style reminiscent of the violent, misogynistic lyrics of rap artists he admired.

In its first examination of the limits of free speech on social media, the Supreme Court will consider next week whether, as a jury concluded, Elonis’s postings constituted a “true threat” to his wife and others.

The issue is whether Elonis should be prosecuted for what he says was simply blowing off steam — “therapeutic efforts to address traumatic events,” as his brief to the court says — because what matters is not his intent but whether any reasonable person targeted in the rants would regard them as menacing warnings.

Parties on both sides of the groundbreaking case are asking the court to consider the unique qualities of social media. In this rapidly evolving realm of communication, only the occasional emoticon may signal whether a writer is engaging in satire or black humor, exercising poetic license, or delivering the kind of grim warnings that have presaged school shootings and other acts of mass violence.

Elonis, who has served prison time for his Facebook posts, and some of his supporters say the court must look beyond incendiary content to discern the writer’s intent.

“Internet users may give vent to emotions on which they have no intention of acting, memorializing expressions of momentary anger or exasperation that once were communicated face-to-face among friends and dissipated harmlessly,” said a brief filed on Elonis’s behalf by the Student Press Law Center, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the writers organization PEN.

Domestic violence experts, on the other hand, say social media has become a powerful tool for dispensing threats.

Victims of domestic abuse, according to a brief filed by the National Network to End Domestic Violence, “have experienced real-life terror caused by increasingly graphic and public posts to Facebook and other social media sites — terror that is exacerbated precisely because abusers now harness the power of technology, ‘enabling them to reach their victims’ everyday lives at the click of a mouse or the touch of a screen.’”

The case carries wide First Amendment implications for free-speech rights and artistic expression. Briefs laden with the f-word and vulgar references to the female anatomy attempt to provide a crash course on Eminem and Wu-Tang Clan for the justices, whose tastes lean more toward Wagner and Puccini, and illuminate what some scholars say are the misunderstood storytelling attributes of rap.

It is a thoroughly modern case for justices who even eschew e-mail communications with one another but are increasingly called upon to decide issues centered on evolving technology. Last term alone, they decided cases involving cellphone privacy, software patents and cloud-based Internet streaming video.

Solicitor General Donald B. Verrilli Jr., representing the government, offered a basic primer on social media in his brief to the court. “Facebook ‘friends,’ ” he explained, “generally will have access to each other’s posts and will also see each other’s new content as part of a live newsfeed.”

A number of people watched Elonis’s news feed with growing alarm during a two-month period in 2010. His wife had left with their two children, and Elonis, then 27 and working at Dorney Park and Wildwater Kingdom amusement park in Allentown, Pa., grew increasingly despondent and angry.

He was fired after co-workers interpreted one of his Facebook postings as a threat to them. He responded: “Someone once told me that I was a firecracker. Nah, I’m a nuclear bomb and Dorney Park just f—-- with the timer.”

Elonis’s lawyer in the Supreme Court case, Washington attorney John P. Elwood, noted for the court that the posting was “followed by an emoticon of a face with its tongue sticking out to indicate ‘jest.’ ”

In other postings, Elonis suggested that his son dress as “Matricide” for Halloween, with his wife’s “head on a stick” as a prop. He pondered making a name for himself by shooting up an elementary school and noted that there were so many nearby to choose from — “hell hath no fury like a crazy man in a kindergarten class.”

That brought a visit from an FBI agent, and the prolific Elonis later recalled that with this posting:

“Little Agent Lady stood so close

Took all the strength I had not to turn the b—-

ghost

Pull my knife, flick my wrist, and slit her throat”

There was much more. But Elwood’s brief noted that Elonis created a rapper-sounding pseudonym — “Tone Dougie,” a combination of his first and middle names — for his screeds and sprinkled the postings with references to his “art” and First Amendment speech rights.

True, the language of the posts was violent, the brief notes, but the same is true of his hero Eminem, who frequently rapped about violent fantasies involving his ex-wife.

Tone Dougie posted explicit disclaimers about his “fictitious lyrics” and, according to his brief, made clear that they did “not reflect the views, values, or beliefs of Anthony Elonis the person.”

Some courts require prosecutors to show that a defendant intends to make good on warnings in order to obtain a conviction for communicating “any threat to injure the person of another.”

But most do not, and the judge in Elonis’s case instructed jurors that the government had to prove only that a reasonable person would view the postings as “a serious expression of an intention to inflict bodily injury or take the life of an individual.”

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit in Philadelphia upheld Elonis’s conviction, and he served more than three years of a 44-month sentence before his release from prison.

The Supreme Court has never given a clear answer as to whether intent must be proved. In a 1969 case, the court ruled in favor of a war protester charged with threatening President Lyndon B. Johnson: “If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.”

The court in a brief order said it was clear from laughter both from the speaker and his audience at the antiwar rally that the words were not a true threat.

Elwood said in an interview that one of the things that makes this case important is that there is no way in social media to pick up the “cues and signals” that would indicate whether a speaker is serious or joking, threatening or hyperbolic.

He pointed to the Supreme Court’s language in a 2002 decision about Virginia’s law against cross-burning. The court said constitutionally unprotected “true threats” encompass “those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit . . . unlawful violence.”

Verrilli argued in his brief that this language means only that such statements are a “type” of true threat, not the only type.

“A bomb threat that appears to be serious is equally harmful regardless of the speaker’s private state of mind,” Verrilli wrote, adding: “Juries are fully capable of distinguishing between metaphorical expression of strong emotions and statements that have the clear sinister meaning of a threat.”

In Elonis’s case, Verrilli pointed out, the jury acquitted him of threatening his amusement park co-workers while finding that the threats against his wife, schoolchildren and the FBI agent were serious.

A brief filed by the Marion B. Brechner First Amendment Project at the University of Florida and two rap-music scholars, Erik Nielson at the University of Richmond and Charis E. Kubrin of the University of California at Irvine, advises the court that intent is especially important when considering rap.

Some of the images for which Elonis was prosecuted, Nielson said in an interview, are no different from the ones that have won Eminem 13 Grammys.

But the government says the very popularity of rap music shows there is no reason to think that using the reasonable-listener standard would inhibit speech or artistic expression.

“If rap music has thrived . . . a true-threats standard that does not require proof of subjective intent can hardly be thought to chill the speech that petitioner highlights,” Verrilli wrote.

“Eminem’s lyrics, Bob Dylan’s music and other examples cited by petitioner do not involve factual backdrops even remotely analogous” to Elonis’s, he said.

Elonis v. U.S. is scheduled for oral arguments Dec. 1.

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The Flood / MOVED: Fill me in on GamerGate.
« on: November 23, 2014, 05:26:09 PM »

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Serious / House Intelligence Committee Releases New Benghazi Report
« on: November 22, 2014, 10:45:41 AM »
And guess what...they found nothing!

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WASHINGTON -- Yet another detailed investigation into the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, has refuted claims that there was a coverup or that officials didn't do all they could at the time to save the four Americans killed that night.

The latest findings, released Friday, come from the declassified two-year investigation of the House Intelligence Committee, which conducted an exhaustive probe into the incident, including claims that the White House cooked up phony talking points for then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice.

The report did find that the State Department was unable to protect the facility in eastern Libya where Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others were killed, but also contradicts many of the charges leveled at the Obama administration in the days and years following the attacks.

Among its findings, the report says CIA personnel responded not just well, but heroically; that there was no "stand down" order, as some critics have claimed; there was no intimidation of witnesses by superiors; there was no intelligence failure prior to the attack; and that a "mixed group" of individuals, including some linked to al Qaeda, participated in the attack.

But perhaps the most significant conclusion is its finding that Rice's talking points -- a key focus of the Benghazi Select Committee empaneled by House Speaker John Boehner -- were not part of an attempt to conceal the severity of the incident.

According to the report, early intelligence that the attacks were sparked by an Internet video was "not accurate," but not intentionally so. And the report holds that the process that produced Rice's now-infamous talking points was flawed, resulting in errors rather than deliberate lies. Indeed, the report determined that the CIA had not sorted out the conflicting intelligence until two days after Rice appeared on television claiming the attacks stemmed from a protest.

In a joint statement accompanying the release of the report, Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) and the committee's top Democrat, Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.), said its probe was extensive:

"For over two years, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence exhaustively investigated the September 11, 2012 terrorist attacks in Benghazi Libya. We spent thousands of hours asking questions, poring over documents, reviewing intelligence assessments, reading cables and emails, and held a total of 20 Committee events and hearings. We conducted detailed interviews with senior intelligence officials from Benghazi and Tripoli as well as eight security personnel on the ground in Benghazi that night. Based on the testimony and the documents we reviewed, we concluded that all the CIA officers in Benghazi were heroes. Their actions saved lives."

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), a member of the Intelligence Committee and the Benghazi Select Committee, said in a statement that the new document should finally close the door on the conspiracy chatter.

"It's my hope that this report will put to rest many of the questions that have been asked and answered yet again, and that the Benghazi Select Committee will accept these findings and instead focus its attention on the State Department's progress in securing our facilities around the world and standing up our fast response capabilities," Schiff said.

So far the Benghazi Select Committee, led by Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), has held one hearing focusing on the issue of securing diplomatic facilities.

The House Armed Services Committee, the Senate Armed Services Committee and the State Department's independent review board have all come to similar conclusions, even before the House launched its Benghazi panel.

Seriously, can we stop wasting money trying to find impeachable offenses when, after two years of trying, there are none?

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Serious / Utah Introduces Legislation to Bring Back Firing Squads
« on: November 20, 2014, 07:01:15 PM »
Story

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A legislative committee wants to bring back the firing squad as one of the primary methods for executing condemned criminals in Utah.

The Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Interim Committee on Wednesday endorsed legislation that makes firing squads the method for carrying out executions if the drugs needed for lethal injections are not available to the state — and they currently are not.

Rep. Paul Ray, R-Clearfield, said Utah does not now have the "cocktail" of drugs needed to carry out executions by lethal injection and needs to be prepared to do so with a firing squad.

"The European company that makes this [drug cocktail] is refusing to sell to the United States because they’re opposed to the death penalty," said Ray, who called the firing squad armed with rifles "absolutely one of the most humane ways to execute someone because it’s so quick and, quite honestly, one of the most painless ways."

"I’m sure there’s some initial pain to it," he said, "but you don’t see the struggling and the trying to breathe you see on any type of lethal injection. Even on the ones that are the lethal drug cocktail, you still see the gurgling and the fighting to breathe."

The bill was prompted in part by a "botched" execution in Oklahoma where condemned murderer and rapist Clayton Lockett writhed and gasped after he was injected and called out, "Oh, man," according to news reports quoting witnesses. Lockett died of a heart attack about a half hour after getting lethal doses of drugs, prison officials said, sparking a national debate over the drugs used to carry out executions and the death penalty itself.

Under the bill headed for the 2015 Utah Legislative General Session in January, a court hearing would be held at a minimum of 30 days before a scheduled execution at which a judge would determine if a legal drug combination was available for the execution. If not, the firing squad would become the method of execution.

In recent decades, Utah gave death row inmates the choice of execution by lethal injection or a firing squad. But in 2004, the Legislature made lethal injection the primary method of execution, with a firing squad available for inmates who previously had the right to chose their method of execution or if a court declared lethal injection unconstitutional.

Jean Hill, the government liaison for the Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City, said the diocese opposed the bill because of its longstanding opposition to capital punishment.

"We don’t believe there is a humane way to execute anyone," Hill said. "And the idea that we put five people behind a wall to shoot someone who is immobilized and unarmed is not humane."

The committee voted 9-2 to endorse the legislation, with Rep. Mark Wheatley, D-Salt Lake, and Rep. Marc Roberts, R-Santaquin, against the endorsement.

"I don’t see where this bill is needed," said Wheatley. "We’re not correcting any problem. … It’s not solving anything."

The Utah prison inmate who may be the closest to execution is Douglas Carter, convicted of killing Eva Olesen during a 1985 robbery at her Provo home.

But Deputy Utah Attorney General Tom Brunker said Carter still has legal actions pending in state and federal courts.

The last person executed by a firing squad in Utah was Ronnie Lee Gardner on June 18, 2010. Gardner was sentenced to death for the 1985 murder of attorney Michael Burdell during an attempt to escape while Gardner was in the Salt Lake City courthouse for a hearing stemming from another murder the year before.

Gardner chose a firing squad when a 3rd District Court judge signed a death warrant in 2010. His execution brought an intense focus to Utah and its capital punishment laws.

The Jan. 17, 1977, execution by firing squad of Gary Gilmore also brought international attention to Utah when he became the first person executed in the United States in 10 years after a series of U.S. Supreme Court decisions upheld the death penalty after earlier decisions had struck down previous laws.

Probably the most famous execution by firing squad in Utah was that of Joe Hill, the Swedish immigrant born Joel Emmanuel Hägglund, who was known for songs he composed on behalf of the Industrial Workers of the World, a militant labor union of that era.


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Serious / Sexual Assaults on US College Campuses (Story Update on Pg. 6)
« on: November 20, 2014, 01:22:11 PM »
Very, very, very long Rolling Stone article that I am linking, but don't intend you all to read. Highlights regarding it are quoted below

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Four weeks into UVA's 2012 school year, 18-year-old Jackie was crushing it at college. A chatty, straight-A achiever from a rural Virginia town, she'd initially been intimidated by UVA's aura of preppy success, where throngs of toned, tanned and overwhelmingly blond students fanned across a landscape of neoclassical brick buildings, hurrying to classes, clubs, sports, internships, part-time jobs, volunteer work and parties; Jackie's orientation leader had warned her that UVA students' schedules were so packed that "no one has time to date – people just hook up." But despite her reservations, Jackie had flung herself into campus life, attending events, joining clubs, making friends and, now, being asked on an actual date. She and Drew had met while working lifeguard shifts together at the university pool, and Jackie had been floored by Drew's invitation to dinner, followed by a "date function" at his fraternity, Phi Kappa Psi. The "upper tier" frat had a reputation of tremendous wealth, and its imposingly large house overlooked a vast manicured field, giving "Phi Psi" the undisputed best real estate along UVA's fraternity row known as Rugby Road.

Now, climbing the frat-house stairs with Drew, Jackie felt excited. Drew ushered Jackie into a bedroom, shutting the door behind them. The room was pitch-black inside. Jackie blindly turned toward Drew, uttering his name. At that same moment, she says, she detected movement in the room – and felt someone bump into her. Jackie began to scream.

"Shut up," she heard a man's voice say as a body barreled into her, tripping her backward and sending them both crashing through a low glass table. There was a heavy person on top of her, spreading open her thighs, and another person kneeling on her hair, hands pinning down her arms, sharp shards digging into her back, and excited male voices rising all around her. When yet another hand clamped over her mouth, Jackie bit it, and the hand became a fist that punched her in the face. The men surrounding her began to laugh. For a hopeful moment Jackie wondered if this wasn't some collegiate prank. Perhaps at any second someone would flick on the lights and they'd return to the party.

"Grab its motherfucking leg," she heard a voice say. And that's when Jackie knew she was going to be raped.

She remembers every moment of the next three hours of agony, during which, she says, seven men took turns raping her, while two more – her date, Drew, and another man – gave instruction and encouragement. She remembers how the spectators swigged beers, and how they called each other nicknames like Armpit and Blanket. She remembers the men's heft and their sour reek of alcohol mixed with the pungency of marijuana. Most of all, Jackie remembers the pain and the pounding that went on and on.

As the last man sank onto her, Jackie was startled to recognize him: He attended her tiny anthropology discussion group. He looked like he was going to cry or puke as he told the crowd he couldn't get it up. "Pussy!" the other men jeered. "What, she's not hot enough for you?" Then they egged him on: "Don't you want to be a brother?" "We all had to do it, so you do, too." Someone handed her classmate a beer bottle. Jackie stared at the young man, silently begging him not to go through with it. And as he shoved the bottle into her, Jackie fell into a stupor, mentally untethering from the brutal tableau, her mind leaving behind the bleeding body under assault on the floor.

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Two years later, Jackie, now a third-year, is worried about what might happen to her once this article comes out. Greek life is huge at UVA, with nearly one-third of undergrads belonging to a fraternity or sorority, so Jackie fears the backlash could be big – a "shitshow" predicted by her now-former friend Randall, who, citing his loyalty to his own frat, declined to be interviewed. But her concerns go beyond taking on her alleged assailants and their fraternity. Lots of people have discouraged her from sharing her story, Jackie tells me with a pained look, including the trusted UVA dean to whom Jackie reported her gang-rape allegations more than a year ago. On this deeply loyal campus, even some of Jackie's closest friends see her going public as tantamount to betrayal.

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The first weeks of freshman year are when students are most vulnerable to sexual assault

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Studies have shown that fraternity men are three times as likely to commit rape, and a spate of recent high-profile cases illustrates the dangers that can lurk at frat parties, like a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee frat accused of using color-coded hand stamps as a signal to roofie their guests, and this fall's suspension of Brown University's chapter of Phi Kappa Psi – of all fraternities – after a partygoer tested positive for the date-rape drug GHB.

Frats are often the sole option for an underage drinker looking to party, since bars are off-limits, sororities are dry and first-year students don't get many invites to apartment soirees. Instead, the kids crowd the walkways of the big, anonymous frat houses, vying for entry.

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Most of that hooking up is consensual. But against that backdrop, as psychologist David Lisak discovered, lurk undetected predators. Lisak's 2002 groundbreaking study of more than 1,800 college men found that roughly nine out of 10 rapes are committed by serial offenders, who are responsible for an astonishing average of six rapes each. None of the offenders in Lisak's study had ever been reported. Lisak's findings upended general presumptions about campus sexual assault: It implied that most incidents are not bumbling, he-said-she-said miscommunications, but rather deliberate crimes by serial sex offenders.

For those who do not know, UVA is among 86 universities across the country under investigation from the federal government regarding the sexual assault problem, and claims of coverup. UVA's investigation goes one step further, which the quote below explains:

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UVA is one of only 12 schools under a sweeping investigation known as "compliance review": a proactive probe launched by the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights itself, triggered by concerns about deep-rooted issues. "They are targeted efforts to go after very serious concerns," says Office of Civil Rights assistant secretary Catherine Lhamon. "We don't open compliance reviews unless we have something that we think merits it."

The topic of sexual assault on college campuses is not new, but it's one that has escalated in recent years as more and more victims come forward with reports of their assault, and the claims that their university either pushed them to drop the claims, or that the university covered up investigations to protect frats, athletic teams, and their prestige.

So, let me ask: Aside from the federal investigation and severe penalties that are coming down, what more can be done to prevent this growing problem?

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Serious / Is Education a Fundamental Right?
« on: November 20, 2014, 09:50:39 AM »
If yes - is it an adequately protected right?
If no - why not?

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The Flood / An Early Birthday Thread...
« on: November 19, 2014, 08:39:54 PM »
To our very own Kinder, who's turning 20.

Happy birthday.




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Serious / Obama to Announce Immigration Executive Orders Thursday
« on: November 19, 2014, 12:04:00 PM »
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President Barack Obama will announce this week that he is shielding about 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation and will travel to Las Vegas for an event Friday to promote it, according to sources familiar with the planning.

Senior administration officials began calling immigration reform proponents Wednesday to fill them in on plans for the rollout and the details of the proposal.

The executive actions will cover 4 million undocumented immigrants who would qualify for deferred deportations by using criteria such as longevity in the United States and family ties, according to sources briefed on the discussions. Another 1 million would receive protection through other means, two sources said.

There will be no special protections for farm workers or parents of Dreamers — two categories that groups had lobbied hard for — because there were concerns about those pieces clearing the legal bars, sources said. However, the administration officials noted in their calls, many people who fall into those categories would qualify if they have children who are U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents. Dreamers, in contrast, are undocumented immigrants who were brought to this country by their parents as minors.

Obama could announce his plans in a prime time speech Thursday, the senior administration officials told advocates, though it’s unclear that the speech will be broadcast at that time. Top aides, meanwhile, are suggesting that the president will go big.

Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson confirmed Wednesday that Obama will make his announcement “in the coming days” and that the reforms the president puts forward will be “comprehensive.” Speaking at an event hosted by the New Democrat Network, a left-leaning think tank, Johnson said the president has “fairly wide latitude” to act under the law.

“He’s going to go as far as he can under the law,” Domestic Policy Council Director Cecilia Muñoz said Tuesday. Still, the administration acknowledges that there are limits to what he can do. “He’s going to be the first to say that it doesn’t fix everything that’s broken.”

Dawn Le, of the Alliance for Citizenship, offered a hint at the timing in an email that the AFL-CIO’s Jeff Hauser forwarded to reporters before asking them to “ignore” the previous note.

“We hear there will be a prime time Thursday evening announcement (to preview) and full unveiling in Vegas on Friday,” Le wrote. “Unclear whether Thursday night content will be what is ‘celebratory,’ but Friday will be where we need a lot of energy guaranteed.”

The president’s turn to executive action comes after pushing House Republicans for more than a year to take up the immigration bill passed by the Senate in June 2013. Obama had long held out hope that House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would bring the bill to the floor, but when the speaker told the president that he would not be holding a vote on it in 2014, Obama vowed in a Rose Garden speech to act on his own.
Obama had initially planned to announce executive actions on immigration at the end of the summer but in September the White House said he would put off a final decision until after Election Day, amid Democrats’ concerns that it would create another complication on the campaign trail ahead of the midterm elections.

With a nine-day trip to Asia and Australia behind him and Thanksgiving on the horizon, Obama has spent this week working out the final details of his announcement. The trip to Las Vegas brings him full circle from January 2013, when he launched a push pressuring Congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform, repeating the mantra “now is the time.”

He spoke then at Del Sol High School, the same venue that local press reports say the White House has chosen for Friday’s announcement.

Republicans have been preparing to respond in large part by accusing Obama of overreach and by pointing to his repeated statements last year that he did not have the authority to act on certain pieces of immigration reform.

“If ‘Emperor Obama’ ignores the American people and announces an amnesty plan that he himself has said over and over again exceeds his Constitutional authority, he will cement his legacy of lawlessness and ruin the chances for congressional action on this issue – and many others,” Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said Wednesday.

Initial Democratic responses are more positive.

Rep. Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.) said Wednesday that Obama’s action would put him in the company of “great” presidents, including Abraham Lincoln and Harry Truman, who both used their executive authorities to expand rights for African Americans. “I think that President Obama ought to put himself alongside these … great presidents and use [an] executive order to do something big on immigration,” he said on MSNBC.
The legality of the president’s actions, Clyburn added, is up to the courts and not Congress. “Let’s let the courts decide whether it’s constitutional. That’s not for Congress to decide, that’s why we have courts to make that decision,” he said.


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The Flood / MOVED: My professor says we're drinking blood
« on: November 19, 2014, 09:47:49 AM »

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The Flood / So. New York's Snowstorm
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:39:48 PM »
Just thought I'd share some photos to everyone currently freezing.



Wall of Snow



Trying to go outside.



This is the expressway. Try driving on that.


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Septagon / MOVED: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 07:01:42 PM »

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The Flood / MOVED: Weird error?
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:57:03 PM »

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Gaming / Time to Feel Old
« on: November 18, 2014, 06:23:27 PM »
Here

13 years ago, the Nintendo Gamecube released.

Discuss this great console.

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Serious / MOVED: I have 36 tabs open in safari
« on: November 18, 2014, 05:46:12 PM »

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Serious / MOVED: >mfw imperial/ancient china rekts yurop
« on: November 18, 2014, 03:27:32 PM »

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The Flood / Sep7agon Podcast #1 - Question Segment
« on: November 18, 2014, 02:05:01 PM »
So, some of the staff is preparing to record the first Sep7agon Podcast episode in a little while, and are looking for some questions from the community to answer. This is your chance to get to know us a bit better, while having some fun with it.

The people who will be on this episode of the podcast are...

- Yutaka
- Lord Commissar
- Psy
- Me (Potentially)

So, go ahead and ask your questions in this thread - anything you wish (Within reason). You can direct them at all of us, or ask individual questions for certain members.


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Serious / Who is MOST at fault...
« on: November 17, 2014, 06:45:30 PM »
For the current situation in Africa - namely Sub-Saharan Africa?

Just interested in people's thoughts.

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Serious / MOVED: it's_happening.gif
« on: November 17, 2014, 12:44:28 PM »

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Serious / New Study Suggests Genetic Link for Male Homosexuality
« on: November 17, 2014, 12:38:47 PM »
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CHICAGO — A large study of gay brothers adds to evidence that genes influence men’s chances of being homosexual, but the results aren’t strong enough to prove it.

Some scientists believe several genes might affect sexual orientation. Researchers who led the new study of nearly 800 gay brothers say their results bolster previous evidence pointing to genes on the X chromosome.

They also found evidence of influence from a gene or genes on a different chromosome. But the study doesn’t identify which of hundreds of genes located in either place might be involved.

Smaller studies seeking genetic links to homosexuality have had mixed results.

The new evidence “is not proof but it’s a pretty good indication” that genes on the two chromosomes have some influence over sexual orientation, said Dr. Alan Sanders, the lead author. He studies behavioral genetics at NorthShore University HealthSystem Research Institute in Evanston, Illinois.

Experts not involved in the study were more skeptical.

Neil Risch, a genetics expert at the University of California, San Francisco, said the data are statistically too weak to demonstrate any genetic link. Risch was involved in a smaller study that found no link between male homosexuality and chromosome X.

Dr. Robert Green, a medical geneticist at Harvard Medical School, called the new study “intriguing but not in any way conclusive.”

The work was published Monday by the journal Psychological Medicine. The National Institutes of Health paid for the research.

The researchers say they found potential links to male homosexuality in a portion of chromosome X and on chromosome 8, based on an analysis of genetic material in blood or saliva samples from participants.

Chromosome X is one of two human sex chromosomes; the other is chromosome Y, present only in men.

The study authors note that animal research suggests a gene located in one region of chromosome X may contribute to some sexual behavior; it’s one of the same regions cited in the new study.

Specific causes of homosexuality are unknown. Some scientists think social, cultural, family and biological factors are involved, while some religious groups consider it an immoral choice.

Study participant Dr. Chad Zawitz, a Chicago physician, called the research “a giant step forward” toward answering scientific questions about homosexuality and helping reduce the stigma gays often face.

Being gay “is sort of like having certain eye color or skin color — it’s just who you are,” Zawitz said. “Most heterosexuals I know didn’t choose to be heterosexual. It’s puzzling to me why people don’t understand.”

While hardly conclusive, and still debatable, it's still more research.

So, discuss.

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Serious / MOVED: Please make this the Serious banner.
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:03:29 PM »

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Serious / WSJ: U.S. Using Fake Cell Phone Towers On Planes To Gather Data
« on: November 14, 2014, 11:43:43 AM »
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An agency of the U.S. Justice Department is gathering data from thousands of cell phones, including both criminal suspects and innocent Americans, by using fake communications towers on airplanes, the Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.

The program run by the U.S. Marshals Service began operations in 2007 and uses Cessna planes flying from at least five major airports and covering most of the U.S. population, the newspaper said, citing people familiar with the operations.

The planes use devices made by Boeing Co that mimic the cell phone towers used by major telecommunications companies and trick mobile phones into revealing their unique registration data, the report said.

The devices, nicknamed "dirtboxes," can collect information from tens of thousands of cell phones in a single flight, which occur on a regular basis, according to those with knowledge of the program, the Journal said.

It said a Justice Department official would not confirm or deny the existence of such a program, saying such discussion would allow criminal suspects or foreign powers to determine U.S. surveillance abilities, but that department agencies comply with federal law, including by seeking court approval.

The program is similar to one used by the National Security Agency which collects the phone records of millions of Americans in order to find a single person or a handful of people.

The Journal cited the people familiar with the program as saying that the device used in the program decides which phones belong to suspects and "lets go" of non-suspect phones.

Although it can interrupt calls on some phones, authorities have made software changes to make sure it doesn't interrupt anyone calling the 911 emergency number for help, one person familiar with the matter said, the Journal reported.

It also bypasses telephone companies, allowing authorities to locate suspects directly, people with knowledge of the program said.

The Journal quoted Christopher Soghoian, chief technologist at the American Civil Liberties Union, as calling it "a dragnet surveillance program. It's inexcusable and it's likely, to the extent judges are authorizing it, they have no idea of the scale of it."

The newspaper said it was unknown what steps are being taken to ensure data collected on innocent people is not kept for future perusal by authorities.

Thoughts?

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