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« on: October 12, 2015, 11:07:49 PM »
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« on: October 12, 2015, 11:03:19 PM »
Personally, I'm for this. Europeans didn't discover the Americas. People were already here.
Discuss
I figure the purpose of such a holiday as Columbus Day would be to celebrate the achievements of your ancestors, not to twist them into a means of white guilting everyone.
It's not about making you feel guilty. It's about stopping the whitewash of history that paints a monster as a great man. Columbus was as bad as Hitler or Stalin. Read up on what he did. He ordered the rape, murder and enslavement of an entire people. He committed genocide and got a national holiday out of it.
You go ahead and repeat that to every America you meet, every little kid and young impressionable person you meet, and you tell me how they respond to it. There's nothing wrong with coming to terms of your people's history, in fact I'd consider it the duty of every citizen to know their country's past, my country New Zealand has a similar story; But what your asking for is nothing short of self flagellation, and that is not going to achieve anything beneficial to anybody.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 10:55:19 PM »
I'm really conflicted on V. Before the end of part I thought it was the best game i'd ever played, but that came with the expectation that the second part would expand the scope of the game but also wrap everything up, and then it just ends. It's like I paid $110 just to be blue balled.
It took you until the end to realize the story was horrible and the repetitiveness was agonizing? Well, better late than never.
For the first several missions in afghanistan there wasn't really anything wrong, it was quite slow but I figured it was building up to something interesting, since I figured interesting story events would progress like how motherbase would. I also thought that the skulls and skullface showing up every now and then was pretty entertaining, and the stuff with Huey and Sahelanthropus also looked promising (I had a rally good chuckle when it was revealed in game that sahelanthropus isn't actually rex like what the trailers had me expecting). With the torture of Huey it looked like Boss and Miller might finally go off the deep end, but that was postponed by the vocal cord parasites. Now when I had first seen the trailer that makes a big point about language I thought that whatever they were going for would be incredibly stupid, but the parasites ended up being a really good kind of stupid that grew on me, a giant robot nuke launching dinosaur kind of stupid. And then as that progressed and the infection started It really looked to me like Kojima was going to pull off something great, but then it quickly jumps back to Afghanistan and you sit through skullface's monologues, fight sahelanthropus, and then it ends.
Up until that point I was really engrossed with it all, all the different story threads just clicked for me, it had all of these things going on yet it I could keep track of it all and really enjoy it, and then it just sputters out and throws the end at you.
Glad you enjoyed it, but I felt the narrative was weak as hell compared to Peace Walker, the game before it on a console far less inferior. Lack of cutscenes made it horrible for me, codec not being there I felt ruined the pacing with the tapes that you basically had to sit inside the helicopter to listen to, character development was just NOT there, everything.
And to make it worse, towards the end of the game we get Peace Walker references such as Strangelove, the theme, etc. It's like it's just a reminder how the previous game was so much better as compared to this open world, horribly paced game with a story that was laughable.
The retcon for Venom was also stupid and ruined almost any vilification OF Big Boss post Peace Walker era, considering Venom is a better person than Boss.
I loved peace walker to bits but i'll be the first to admit that it's story was both unneeded and weak -Big Boss just farts around in Latin America while building his clubhouse - the purpose of V was to make up for that weakness and it ends before it gets the chance to do so. And yeah, there's basically no point to the venom/BB bait and switch since there isn't a person in the world who gives a damn about Big Boss getting killed in MG 1 and 2 aside from Kojima.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 02:00:19 AM »
Are you really going to base the entire difference between us, the entire uniqueness of your existence, on the fact that you're having a conversation with someone who holds a different opinion? going up a level in abstraction, people talking to other people is not unique at all, everyone who can do so, does. Now while the specifics change from place to place and from time to time, the very nature of it all is just the same thing happening again and again. Think of it like molecules of water, regardless of whether or not it's in a cloud or a frozen comet or a pig's liver, it's always just two hydrogen's bonded to and oxygen. As long as you're a human, you're not terribly different from me or anyone else, and the differences that do exist are mostly superfluous.
The key part of your description is "not terribly different"; that implies that there is a difference regardless of the size.
People can act so similar that, just over text, it would be hard to distinguish them. Hatd, but possible, that is. If you add in the physical element, that completely changes the situation; you could tell two people who act a lot alike by simply seeing that they aren't the same person. "You" are the combination of memorable traits, whether they be physical or not. A combination, not one or the other.
That's why we aren't the same person. Even if we looked exactly the same, there are discrepancies in our personalities that can be seen in common situations such as this debate. If we had the same personality, we'd still be different people; we don't look the same.
That's my entire rational here; same != similar. If I had a different body, I might be similar, but I wouldn't be the same.
I'm not trying to imply that everyone is the same person, the odds of two people being identical down to an atomic level are so low that term infinitesimal doesn't even begin to describe it. What i'm saying is that if you look at the traits we use to identify how unique we are; our tastes, our relationships, our appearances, our histories, even if those are all different from one another, when you look outside of our species and at another, suddenly we're all quite similar when compared to a protists or beetle. And going one step further when you consider what caused all those differences, predominately physical location, beyond that there really isn't too much of a difference. Now you could make a case that those minute differences are all that matters, but my experiences make me think otherwise. Even in my short life i've met enough people and seen enough personality types that I've started to see repeats of certain combinations, and this isn't because i've been hanging around with the same groups of people, but because there's simply a limit to how different any two humans can be without either of them being fundamentally broken on some level.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 01:00:11 AM »
Personally, I'm for this. Europeans didn't discover the Americas. People were already here.
Discuss
I figure the purpose of such a holiday as Columbus Day would be to celebrate the achievements of your ancestors, not to twist them into a means of white guilting everyone.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 12:42:49 AM »
While it's nice to theorize there's absolutely no way to know for sure whether or not you would be the same person if you found yourself in a different body without actually transferring yourself to a different body.
I could quite easily claim that everyone who swaps over to a different body acquires the personality of a professional snooker player, but I have nothing to back that up.
Nobody is saying that you'd suddenly know how to play the flute and walk on your hands; you just wouldn't have the same perceptions ad you previously did, thereby irrevocably changing your outlook and, to that end, personality.
I'm aware of that, what I was getting at is that this discussion is kind of like discussing what happens if you mix hypothetical chemical A with hypothetical chemical B without anyone involved in the discussion even being a chemist. Nobody has a clue about the workings of things that don't exist, and swapping bodies is one of those things.
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Though while I'm at it, If we consider a human who is a blank slate (you can imagine this to be another potential incarnation of yourself), for the purposes of their survival there are certain behaviors that are quite beneficial , such as not eating your own shit or rolling around in it, so regardless of who you are, or what time period you live in, there are certain aspects of your personality that never change, because they aren't unique to anyone.
Now adapting to the culture you live in is just as important for survival, so any blank slate that lives in an English speaking country would be expected to learn English - this applies for any language - if we go further we'd expect this person to align themselves with the cultural trends of the time, and acquire any skills that the society of the time deems necessary (which is why everyone learns how to drive but not how to plow fields). The only case in which this blank slate would differ from the society it finds itself in is if that were significantly more beneficial than assimilating, which is probably rare.
So tl;dr while we can't answer the question in any meaningful way, you and everyone else probably wouldn't be too different in a different body because everyone tends to be pretty similar to everyone else anyway.
Genetically we're all very similar as well; that doesn't mean we all look the same, or are the same person. We are differentiated by our memorable features, whether they be physical or not. You'd still be Cadenza if you changed one, but not both. That's why I say that you're more than just a brain.
But to what extent would I or you or anyone else be different? there's more than 7 billion people alive right now yet I don't honestly believe that there is anywhere near that many unique personalities, or unique circumstances. Sure there's going to be plenty of superficial differences like preferences and relationships, but on a fundamental level there just isn't that much difference between one living thing trying to survive and another one trying to do the exact same thing.
The fact that we can sit here and discuss this-- from opposite sides-- fundamentally proves that different perceptions give way to different thought. We are not the same person, physically or emotionally. Just because we have the potential to be similar does not mean that we are the same. Really, I can boil that down to similar != same.
While it's nice to theorize there's absolutely no way to know for sure whether or not you would be the same person if you found yourself in a different body without actually transferring yourself to a different body.
I could quite easily claim that everyone who swaps over to a different body acquires the personality of a professional snooker player, but I have nothing to back that up.
Nobody is saying that you'd suddenly know how to play the flute and walk on your hands; you just wouldn't have the same perceptions ad you previously did, thereby irrevocably changing your outlook and, to that end, personality.
I'm aware of that, what I was getting at is that this discussion is kind of like discussing what happens if you mix hypothetical chemical A with hypothetical chemical B without anyone involved in the discussion even being a chemist. Nobody has a clue about the workings of things that don't exist, and swapping bodies is one of those things.
——--
Though while I'm at it, If we consider a human who is a blank slate (you can imagine this to be another potential incarnation of yourself), for the purposes of their survival there are certain behaviors that are quite beneficial , such as not eating your own shit or rolling around in it, so regardless of who you are, or what time period you live in, there are certain aspects of your personality that never change, because they aren't unique to anyone.
Now adapting to the culture you live in is just as important for survival, so any blank slate that lives in an English speaking country would be expected to learn English - this applies for any language - if we go further we'd expect this person to align themselves with the cultural trends of the time, and acquire any skills that the society of the time deems necessary (which is why everyone learns how to drive but not how to plow fields). The only case in which this blank slate would differ from the society it finds itself in is if that were significantly more beneficial than assimilating, which is probably rare.
So tl;dr while we can't answer the question in any meaningful way, you and everyone else probably wouldn't be too different in a different body because everyone tends to be pretty similar to everyone else anyway.
Genetically we're all very similar as well; that doesn't mean we all look the same, or are the same person. We are differentiated by our memorable features, whether they be physical or not. You'd still be Cadenza if you changed one, but not both. That's why I say that you're more than just a brain.
But to what extent would I or you or anyone else be different? there's more than 7 billion people alive right now yet I don't honestly believe that there is anywhere near that many unique personalities, or unique circumstances. Sure there's going to be plenty of superficial differences like preferences and relationships, but on a fundamental level there just isn't that much difference between one living thing trying to survive and another one trying to do the exact same thing.
The fact that we can sit here and discuss this-- from opposite sides-- fundamentally proves that different perceptions give way to different thought. We are not the same person, physically or emotionally. Just because we have the potential to be similar does not mean that we are the same. Really, I can boil that down to similar != same.
Are you really going to base the entire difference between us, the entire uniqueness of your existence, on the fact that you're having a conversation with someone who holds a different opinion? going up a level in abstraction, people talking to other people is not unique at all, everyone who can do so, does. Now while the specifics change from place to place and from time to time, the very nature of it all is just the same thing happening again and again. Think of it like molecules of water, regardless of whether or not it's in a cloud or a frozen comet or a pig's liver, it's always just two hydrogen's bonded to and oxygen. As long as you're a human, you're not terribly different from me or anyone else, and the differences that do exist are mostly superfluous.
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« on: October 12, 2015, 12:30:59 AM »
While it's nice to theorize there's absolutely no way to know for sure whether or not you would be the same person if you found yourself in a different body without actually transferring yourself to a different body.
I could quite easily claim that everyone who swaps over to a different body acquires the personality of a professional snooker player, but I have nothing to back that up.
Nobody is saying that you'd suddenly know how to play the flute and walk on your hands; you just wouldn't have the same perceptions ad you previously did, thereby irrevocably changing your outlook and, to that end, personality.
I'm aware of that, what I was getting at is that this discussion is kind of like discussing what happens if you mix hypothetical chemical A with hypothetical chemical B without anyone involved in the discussion even being a chemist. Nobody has a clue about the workings of things that don't exist, and swapping bodies is one of those things.
——--
Though while I'm at it, If we consider a human who is a blank slate (you can imagine this to be another potential incarnation of yourself), for the purposes of their survival there are certain behaviors that are quite beneficial , such as not eating your own shit or rolling around in it, so regardless of who you are, or what time period you live in, there are certain aspects of your personality that never change, because they aren't unique to anyone.
Now adapting to the culture you live in is just as important for survival, so any blank slate that lives in an English speaking country would be expected to learn English - this applies for any language - if we go further we'd expect this person to align themselves with the cultural trends of the time, and acquire any skills that the society of the time deems necessary (which is why everyone learns how to drive but not how to plow fields). The only case in which this blank slate would differ from the society it finds itself in is if that were significantly more beneficial than assimilating, which is probably rare.
So tl;dr while we can't answer the question in any meaningful way, you and everyone else probably wouldn't be too different in a different body because everyone tends to be pretty similar to everyone else anyway.
Genetically we're all very similar as well; that doesn't mean we all look the same, or are the same person. We are differentiated by our memorable features, whether they be physical or not. You'd still be Cadenza if you changed one, but not both. That's why I say that you're more than just a brain.
But to what extent would I or you or anyone else be different? there's more than 7 billion people alive right now yet I don't honestly believe that there is anywhere near that many unique personalities, or unique circumstances. Sure there's going to be plenty of superficial differences like preferences and relationships, but on a fundamental level there just isn't that much difference between one living thing trying to survive and another one trying to do the exact same thing.
548
« on: October 12, 2015, 12:19:59 AM »
A technique my neurologist taught me was to pinch a nerve between my thumb and pointer finger, in the webbing of your hand, to dull the pain since your body only registers one significant pain at a time. I still use that technique today, and I don't really see how it's at all different from some other forms of self harm, except that a doctor told me it was okay.
Oh shit I developed a similar technique of my own, I pinch really hard on my ear lobes, because I theorized it would flood my nervous system with meaningless information so that pain signals wouldn't be detected, but I feared it was just a placebo. The difference in my eyes is that there really isn't any harm, there's no damage at all, whereas as actual self harm is by definition something that damages your body. I figure the best way to treat someone with a mental illness is to encourage them to living more like a normal person, than to encourage "unique" actions like self harm.
549
« on: October 12, 2015, 12:12:47 AM »
While it's nice to theorize there's absolutely no way to know for sure whether or not you would be the same person if you found yourself in a different body without actually transferring yourself to a different body.
I could quite easily claim that everyone who swaps over to a different body acquires the personality of a professional snooker player, but I have nothing to back that up.
Nobody is saying that you'd suddenly know how to play the flute and walk on your hands; you just wouldn't have the same perceptions ad you previously did, thereby irrevocably changing your outlook and, to that end, personality.
I'm aware of that, what I was getting at is that this discussion is kind of like discussing what happens if you mix hypothetical chemical A with hypothetical chemical B without anyone involved in the discussion even being a chemist. Nobody has a clue about the workings of things that don't exist, and swapping bodies is one of those things. ——-- Though while I'm at it, If we consider a human who is a blank slate (you can imagine this to be another potential incarnation of yourself), for the purposes of their survival there are certain behaviors that are quite beneficial , such as not eating your own shit or rolling around in it, so regardless of who you are, or what time period you live in, there are certain aspects of your personality that never change, because they aren't unique to anyone. Now adapting to the culture you live in is just as important for survival, so any blank slate that lives in an English speaking country would be expected to learn English - this applies for any language - if we go further we'd expect this person to align themselves with the cultural trends of the time, and acquire any skills that the society of the time deems necessary (which is why everyone learns how to drive but not how to plow fields). The only case in which this blank slate would differ from the society it finds itself in is if that were significantly more beneficial than assimilating, which is probably rare. So tl;dr while we can't answer the question in any meaningful way, you and everyone else probably wouldn't be too different in a different body because everyone tends to be pretty similar to everyone else anyway.
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« on: October 11, 2015, 11:47:53 PM »
While it's nice to theorize there's absolutely no way to know for sure whether or not you would be the same person if you found yourself in a different body without actually transferring yourself to a different body.
I could quite easily claim that everyone who swaps over to a different body acquires the personality of a professional snooker player, but I have nothing to back that up.
551
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:44:34 PM »
Specifically how it views race mixing as a negative thing to be avoided.
How can we have race mixing when we're only reproducing with other humans? The color of your skin or what you look like doesn't change what race you are since we're all human. There is no such thing as as black race of humanoids, a white race of humanoids or an Asian one. We're all part of the same race called "human". That whole race shit is retarded.
Without saying anything of it's cultural and social importance, categorizing a species into distinct groups based on characteristics unique to a subgroup is standard practice for literally every living organism on earth except humans. This isn't evidence that different races don't exist, but that people are trying to answer a scientific question (what makes one race different from another?) without the proper method. Denying reality isn't healthy.
552
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:34:41 PM »
I can't read.
553
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:30:45 PM »
I love my cat to bits but really, it's just a cat, they live and then they die and that's about it.
554
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:27:11 PM »
so the fact that Trump is not only talking about fixing your immigration and trade problems, but taking a protectionist approach to the whole thing, makes him seem ideal.
Granted there's a lot I don't know about economics or your country's politics, but I cannot see anything seriously flawed about Trump.
It's not so much that Trump is offering solutions (Or, new solutions). He's basically yelling "Build a wall! Deport 11 million people!" with no basis of funding or executing such a move, which would cripple most of the government due to it's massive undertaking and cost.
Plus, the President doesn't have that power, so...
I haven't memorized all his campaign plans and don't intend to preach for him, but I recall that his plan was to raise tariffs to disincentivize outsourcing to the point that it would be more viable to produce goods in America than it would be to import them, which would create jobs and overall improve the economy, which would lead to deportations and defenses being viable.
I mean to me that sounds reasonable but I'm nowhere near being qualified to make statements about this.
Talk to Meta. He'll explain why outsourcing is good and how immigrants are necessary.
I would but I'm not quite sure who's who just yet.
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« on: October 11, 2015, 11:19:21 PM »
I have a brain.
If I was just a brain without the rest of my body then I would die quite quickly, so it only makes sense to consider myself as a collection of life support systems. So in the same way that I have lungs and I have a digestive tract, I have a brain.
556
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:11:44 PM »
Me on the right.
557
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:09:15 PM »
I don't know who you are yet but happy birthday~
558
« on: October 11, 2015, 11:06:29 PM »
I can't even see you, so yes?
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« on: October 11, 2015, 10:54:34 PM »
I really like the idea of a hero being able to defeat villains with ingenuity and gadgets, but there's a a compromise that has to be made between realism and interesting fun stuff, and batman is too much on the unrealistic side for me.
That being said, he's the goddamn batman, you can't hate him.
560
« on: October 11, 2015, 10:48:19 PM »
You know you people are really tame. While I don't advocate being a dick all the time, people really shouldn't be on the internet with some thick skin.
561
« on: October 11, 2015, 10:45:41 PM »
so the fact that Trump is not only talking about fixing your immigration and trade problems, but taking a protectionist approach to the whole thing, makes him seem ideal.
Granted there's a lot I don't know about economics or your country's politics, but I cannot see anything seriously flawed about Trump.
It's not so much that Trump is offering solutions (Or, new solutions). He's basically yelling "Build a wall! Deport 11 million people!" with no basis of funding or executing such a move, which would cripple most of the government due to it's massive undertaking and cost.
Plus, the President doesn't have that power, so...
I haven't memorized all his campaign plans and don't intend to preach for him, but I recall that his plan was to raise tariffs to disincentivize outsourcing to the point that it would be more viable to produce goods in America than it would be to import them, which would create jobs and overall improve the economy, which would lead to deportations and defenses being viable. I mean to me that sounds reasonable but I'm nowhere near being qualified to make statements about this.
562
« on: October 11, 2015, 10:37:48 PM »
I'm really conflicted on V. Before the end of part I thought it was the best game i'd ever played, but that came with the expectation that the second part would expand the scope of the game but also wrap everything up, and then it just ends. It's like I paid $110 just to be blue balled.
It took you until the end to realize the story was horrible and the repetitiveness was agonizing? Well, better late than never.
For the first several missions in afghanistan there wasn't really anything wrong, it was quite slow but I figured it was building up to something interesting, since I figured interesting story events would progress like how motherbase would. I also thought that the skulls and skullface showing up every now and then was pretty entertaining, and the stuff with Huey and Sahelanthropus also looked promising (I had a rally good chuckle when it was revealed in game that sahelanthropus isn't actually rex like what the trailers had me expecting). With the torture of Huey it looked like Boss and Miller might finally go off the deep end, but that was postponed by the vocal cord parasites. Now when I had first seen the trailer that makes a big point about language I thought that whatever they were going for would be incredibly stupid, but the parasites ended up being a really good kind of stupid that grew on me, a giant robot nuke launching dinosaur kind of stupid. And then as that progressed and the infection started It really looked to me like Kojima was going to pull off something great, but then it quickly jumps back to Afghanistan and you sit through skullface's monologues, fight sahelanthropus, and then it ends. Up until that point I was really engrossed with it all, all the different story threads just clicked for me, it had all of these things going on yet it I could keep track of it all and really enjoy it, and then it just sputters out and throws the end at you. I'm really conflicted on V. Before the end of part I thought it was the best game i'd ever played, but that came with the expectation that the second part would expand the scope of the game but also wrap everything up, and then it just ends. It's like I paid $110 just to be blue balled.
Welcome to the club.
We've spent like a collective month complaining about MGSV and why we dislike it.
H-happy to be here ;_;
563
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:35:29 AM »
you don't need numbers for Boolean algebra!
...is this a trick?
If somebody has told you that maths is about numbers, then that's the trick.
The picture I posted before had no numbers at all, a lot of maths is like that, abstract.
can math be dicks too?
Fluid dynamics? Differential equations describing pelvic thrusts? population growth? the topology and curvature of smooth objects? smooth objects with a hole? I'm stopping myself now but you can get pretty creative and technical with penor maths.
564
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:30:37 AM »
D-Did we not discuss this? both my parents came were one of seven siblings, making a huge family is one of the few things I really want.
And whatever it takes, I promise to deliver your every desire in time. Your happiness is what's most important to me.
I'm already happy as it is. I-I want you to be happy.
Spoiler I honestly don't know how.
You gotta find something you enjoy even at it's most simplest, something that you end up spending all your time thinking about. I used to do shitty worldbuilding for stories because I could spend hours thinking about how pointless things work. I mean that's only the start of it all but you need somewhere to start from. You people wanted new members, you really can't tell me you didn't expect this to happen.
But we already have people filling the role of thread derailer tho.
The more the merrier!
565
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:24:45 AM »
If somebody has told you that maths is about numbers, then that's the trick.
The picture I posted before had no numbers at all, a lot of maths is like that, abstract.
If you're wanting to get people interested in math, then you shouldn't inform them that everything they know about math is a lie. My simple mind can only handle so much.
It's not that you've been lied to, but that thinking only in terms of numbers limits people's thinking too much, it's probably the reason why everyone outside of maths thinks it's boring. Even statistics is fun when you think less about the numbers.
566
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:03:30 AM »
D-Did we not discuss this? both my parents came were one of seven siblings, making a huge family is one of the few things I really want.
And whatever it takes, I promise to deliver your every desire in time. Your happiness is what's most important to me.
I'm already happy as it is. I-I want you to be happy.
567
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:02:14 AM »
you don't need numbers for Boolean algebra!
...is this a trick?
If somebody has told you that maths is about numbers, then that's the trick. The picture I posted before had no numbers at all, a lot of maths is like that, abstract.
568
« on: October 11, 2015, 02:00:01 AM »
You people wanted new members, you really can't tell me you didn't expect this to happen.
569
« on: October 11, 2015, 01:57:56 AM »
Transparent truth tables are cooler than opaque truth tables.
I only brought it up because it wasn't visible with my user style.
But have you been doing any Boolean algebra today?
maths makes my brain hurt, so no I tend to avoid numbers.
Ah, but you don't need numbers for Boolean algebra!
570
« on: October 11, 2015, 01:55:57 AM »
I'm serious when I say this, do some maths. It takes your mind off of things.
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