That sucks man. Always hard to lose a pet. Even harder to lose one the way you're describing.

Quote from: Noëlle on March 24, 2015, 11:54:46 AM

Quote from: challengerX on March 24, 2015, 11:49:47 AM

Read my edit made 4 seconds before your post.

Not sure what you're arguing about. Activated charcoal is supposed to be given when the cat is done vomiting, and the cat didn't ingest any acid or alkali.

.......

If you have no idea what you are talking about, then I am going to correct you. You obviously do not know much about either activated charcoal or antifreeze. Antifreeze is not some universal chemical, there are different kinds, which can be acidic, alkaline, or neither. Sandtrap said antifreeze, he did not say what kind, whether it was pure or diluted, whether it had been in a vehicle, because he has no way of knowing those things, and all of those would factor into whether activated charcoal is the right drug to give. Before you give any drug, you have to do investigative work to find out whether it is the right thing to give or not.

I told him to go to the vet and if necessary get activated charcoal. Calm your nonexistent tits.

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 24, 2015, 11:01:22 AM

Bits of fucking meat doused in anti-freeze.

Since you live in Canada maybe the person just doesn't want your cat to freeze.

Wow what the fuck is wrong with the place you live.

I'm just saying, you can shorten things down.

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 23, 2015, 05:21:54 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 23, 2015, 04:10:27 PM

Holy shit why do your posts have be THIS long?

I just don't even read them anymore. And it's a shame because you have shit to say, but fuck, man. They're too long.

Spoiler

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 23, 2015, 01:39:40 PM

Deci. Figure I should talk about more things here. But I'm going to break them down into segments for you as they show up for me. My head's delayed like that. Anywho.

Environmental stagnation.

Environmental stagnation is exactly what it sounds like. You grow tired of your environment around you. You grow fed up. Here's the important thing here Deci, to understand.

There is no avoiding environmental stagnation, unless you're a nomad. Unless, when you grow tired, you move. But here's why you can never outrun it.

You live in an urban area no doubt. Lots of people. City architecture. You're tired of it. I live in relative isolation. Small town life, a fundamental polar opposite to you.

And I'm just as tired of it.

So. Let's just say, that I packed my shit up. Let's say I rolled off down to my home province of birth, British Columbia, and started a new home there. What would I have?

When it was winter in Saskatchewan, there'd be flowers and green in BC. But there would be rain. Weeks and weeks of rainfall, grey skies. And it would be cold. BC has cold rainfall and damp weather because it's on the coastline. Spending even two weeks under nothing but cold rain every day, quickly evaporates your appreciation for the green and flowers.

Let's say I moved far down south. Somewhere warm and tropical in the states. While the radical climate change would be appealing, interesting, after a while, it would grow tiresome.

And now, we factor cities into things. Cities can accelerate environmental stagnation because cities are all founded on a singular, uniform basis. People, and money.

Every single city has a business center. Every city has suburbs, slums, shopping districts. The only mildly different variable are people. Culture, customs, ethinicity, and old architecture.

Compare my town, to another town here called Xenon. Xenon is a french community. Their buildings are completely different from the prarie buildings found here in my town and across the province.

One could say more enjoyable. Different. But if I lived there, eventually I would grow tired of it.

So, here's the point. No matter where you move, no matter where you go, environmental stagnation will eventually happen. Whether you live in a city, in a small town environment, or out in the woods.

So how do you deal with that?

Two things.

The first, is appreciation. Remember what you have. For example. My province is buried under ice and snow for about 6 months of the year. Our springs, and summers are incredibly short, and depending on the weather, usually rainy. Fall is the last warm period, before the climate goes truly ugly. I get incredibly down in Fall. And then winter rolls in.

This province is bare. It's been mowed down like a lawn for farmland. It's flat. And the people, most people, are stupid. Some tolerable, others not.

But what do I have? I'm 22. I have a base of income that I can always return to. The restaurant my mother owns, which I will inherit when she can't do it anymore.

I have the beginnings of a house, and land. And I live in close proximity to the only remaining family of mine that are alive.

And most of all, up here, nothing happens. There is no war. No high crime rates. Isolation. Peace and quiet. Compared to other parts of the planet, other parts of the world, even though it is challenging to live up here, and for 6-7 months of the year the environment is ugly, crushing, and depressing, in reality, all things considered, where I live is nice. And it, to some degree, is safe.

Count what you have around you, the good things.

And second. Focus.

A strong focus, a task to do will always help. Did you know, that actually, human beings for the most part are terrible at relaxing? If you drop us in a perfectly warm environment, nice and temperate, not too hot, not too cold, and give somebody a beach to rest on all day, every day they'll go fucking nuts.

Knock knock, our old partner stagnation again. He's got depression in the back seat too.

People are meant to move. They are supposed to move.

So when you have work, any kind of work. A task, something that needs to be done, or something you want to do, your head focuses on that task and the environment becomes a background.

As such, hobbies are an excellent focus. For me, my hobbies are helpful. But I need to work, physically, to move and think and occupy my hands to really not take notice of the ugly environment around me.

The more hobbies you have and take, and the more....little projects you start, the more you will focus away from your environment.

Raining outside? Snow and ice?

Work on making the floor of your house pretty, the way you want it to look. Sunny and dry outside? Cut and haul firewood. Paint your house.

Occupy yourself.

And third, which I didn't mention, is of course, a partner. Somebody close, or even just a friend in close proximity. Another head and person you enjoy your time around. Not only will their company put you at ease, but they'll do those little projects with you. Together.

So, key points here to fight environmental stagnation, since you can never outrun it.

Focus on what you have. The good that you have access to compared to others.
Focus on hobbies, or work. Little tasks to occupy your thoughts.
Do both of that with a friend or somebody more.

And, on last note.

There are three words that I'll come down to a lot.

Job.
Hobby.
Work.

All three of these words are different and it is important that you understand them.

A job, is not work. A job can be work. But a job is called as such because, plain and simple, usually, it is a task that is not liked. It's a thing that most people believe is essential, and that it has to be done, even if they don't like it.

"It's my job to clean up horse shit in the stables."

"It's my job to go down in the sewers."

"It's my job to serve customers in retail."

A job is a state of mind. Usually an unpleasant task, that you only really do because you want what the job offers.

Money.

Now then. What is work? Work is a natural part of life. Everything in life requires work. However, while work can be hard, work can be not so enjoyable, work has a payoff.

For example. You want to grow your own food. Tilling, and upkeeping a garden is work. It is not easy, and it is not too enjoyable. But if you stick with it, you have your own damn food. And when you're eating your own damn food, you gain a sense of satisfaction because you put that work in to do it.

Something in your house breaks. You've gotta fix it. That's work. But the end result is the repairing of what was broken, maybe even making said broken thing better than it was before it broke. Work is hard, work shows up and is a neccesity in life. But work, has a better end result than a job.

And a hobby, is something you can do for enjoyment. Hobbies can still take work to do, but overall, a hobby doesn't feel so much like work if somebody truly enjoys it. The feeling of it being "work" is absent.

And, because I've rambled here, I'll leave off today on this.

If somebody is doing a job that they enjoy thoroughly, and making money from it, then what are they doing?

Not a job. They're doing a hobby. From job to work, to a hobby, it's like a scale.

A job is the low end, negative of the scale. Work is the middle ground. A hobby is the up end, positive side.

That's all I can say for today.

Right. Let my try and set this straight here, if I can.

1. I'm a writer. Expressiveness is key to telling stories. Over time you just learn to write. It's not an off switch.

2. My head, is scatter brained. It isn't helped by meds. I have to really focus on something, to stay on track.

3. I think in thought trains. I type as I think. That's how I focus, or, in this case, make long rambles like this because I'm trying my best to get the point across while giving a thorough explanation of the how's and whys. Answering questions before they happen.

4. To me, a visible path of my thoughts is the best way to try and show where I'm coming from. Because otherwise I'm a fucking jumpy, scattered mess. Even in writing, even focusing, I still can't pin it down.

5. From now on I am trying to remember to add TL:DRs.

6. These number points are here for semantics because in reality what I just wrote was a train of thought from start to finish.

Apologies for me being, essentially me.

the games suck but faggots keep buying them

Holy shit why do your posts have be THIS long?

I just don't even read them anymore. And it's a shame because you have shit to say, but fuck, man. They're too long.

Spoiler

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 23, 2015, 01:39:40 PM

Deci. Figure I should talk about more things here. But I'm going to break them down into segments for you as they show up for me. My head's delayed like that. Anywho.

Environmental stagnation.

Environmental stagnation is exactly what it sounds like. You grow tired of your environment around you. You grow fed up. Here's the important thing here Deci, to understand.

There is no avoiding environmental stagnation, unless you're a nomad. Unless, when you grow tired, you move. But here's why you can never outrun it.

You live in an urban area no doubt. Lots of people. City architecture. You're tired of it. I live in relative isolation. Small town life, a fundamental polar opposite to you.

And I'm just as tired of it.

So. Let's just say, that I packed my shit up. Let's say I rolled off down to my home province of birth, British Columbia, and started a new home there. What would I have?

When it was winter in Saskatchewan, there'd be flowers and green in BC. But there would be rain. Weeks and weeks of rainfall, grey skies. And it would be cold. BC has cold rainfall and damp weather because it's on the coastline. Spending even two weeks under nothing but cold rain every day, quickly evaporates your appreciation for the green and flowers.

Let's say I moved far down south. Somewhere warm and tropical in the states. While the radical climate change would be appealing, interesting, after a while, it would grow tiresome.

And now, we factor cities into things. Cities can accelerate environmental stagnation because cities are all founded on a singular, uniform basis. People, and money.

Every single city has a business center. Every city has suburbs, slums, shopping districts. The only mildly different variable are people. Culture, customs, ethinicity, and old architecture.

Compare my town, to another town here called Xenon. Xenon is a french community. Their buildings are completely different from the prarie buildings found here in my town and across the province.

One could say more enjoyable. Different. But if I lived there, eventually I would grow tired of it.

So, here's the point. No matter where you move, no matter where you go, environmental stagnation will eventually happen. Whether you live in a city, in a small town environment, or out in the woods.

So how do you deal with that?

Two things.

The first, is appreciation. Remember what you have. For example. My province is buried under ice and snow for about 6 months of the year. Our springs, and summers are incredibly short, and depending on the weather, usually rainy. Fall is the last warm period, before the climate goes truly ugly. I get incredibly down in Fall. And then winter rolls in.

This province is bare. It's been mowed down like a lawn for farmland. It's flat. And the people, most people, are stupid. Some tolerable, others not.

But what do I have? I'm 22. I have a base of income that I can always return to. The restaurant my mother owns, which I will inherit when she can't do it anymore.

I have the beginnings of a house, and land. And I live in close proximity to the only remaining family of mine that are alive.

And most of all, up here, nothing happens. There is no war. No high crime rates. Isolation. Peace and quiet. Compared to other parts of the planet, other parts of the world, even though it is challenging to live up here, and for 6-7 months of the year the environment is ugly, crushing, and depressing, in reality, all things considered, where I live is nice. And it, to some degree, is safe.

Count what you have around you, the good things.

And second. Focus.

A strong focus, a task to do will always help. Did you know, that actually, human beings for the most part are terrible at relaxing? If you drop us in a perfectly warm environment, nice and temperate, not too hot, not too cold, and give somebody a beach to rest on all day, every day they'll go fucking nuts.

Knock knock, our old partner stagnation again. He's got depression in the back seat too.

People are meant to move. They are supposed to move.

So when you have work, any kind of work. A task, something that needs to be done, or something you want to do, your head focuses on that task and the environment becomes a background.

As such, hobbies are an excellent focus. For me, my hobbies are helpful. But I need to work, physically, to move and think and occupy my hands to really not take notice of the ugly environment around me.

The more hobbies you have and take, and the more....little projects you start, the more you will focus away from your environment.

Raining outside? Snow and ice?

Work on making the floor of your house pretty, the way you want it to look. Sunny and dry outside? Cut and haul firewood. Paint your house.

Occupy yourself.

And third, which I didn't mention, is of course, a partner. Somebody close, or even just a friend in close proximity. Another head and person you enjoy your time around. Not only will their company put you at ease, but they'll do those little projects with you. Together.

So, key points here to fight environmental stagnation, since you can never outrun it.

Focus on what you have. The good that you have access to compared to others.
Focus on hobbies, or work. Little tasks to occupy your thoughts.
Do both of that with a friend or somebody more.

And, on last note.

There are three words that I'll come down to a lot.

Job.
Hobby.
Work.

All three of these words are different and it is important that you understand them.

A job, is not work. A job can be work. But a job is called as such because, plain and simple, usually, it is a task that is not liked. It's a thing that most people believe is essential, and that it has to be done, even if they don't like it.

"It's my job to clean up horse shit in the stables."

"It's my job to go down in the sewers."

"It's my job to serve customers in retail."

A job is a state of mind. Usually an unpleasant task, that you only really do because you want what the job offers.

Money.

Now then. What is work? Work is a natural part of life. Everything in life requires work. However, while work can be hard, work can be not so enjoyable, work has a payoff.

For example. You want to grow your own food. Tilling, and upkeeping a garden is work. It is not easy, and it is not too enjoyable. But if you stick with it, you have your own damn food. And when you're eating your own damn food, you gain a sense of satisfaction because you put that work in to do it.

Something in your house breaks. You've gotta fix it. That's work. But the end result is the repairing of what was broken, maybe even making said broken thing better than it was before it broke. Work is hard, work shows up and is a neccesity in life. But work, has a better end result than a job.

And a hobby, is something you can do for enjoyment. Hobbies can still take work to do, but overall, a hobby doesn't feel so much like work if somebody truly enjoys it. The feeling of it being "work" is absent.

And, because I've rambled here, I'll leave off today on this.

If somebody is doing a job that they enjoy thoroughly, and making money from it, then what are they doing?

Not a job. They're doing a hobby. From job to work, to a hobby, it's like a scale.

A job is the low end, negative of the scale. Work is the middle ground. A hobby is the up end, positive side.

That's all I can say for today.

Quote from: challengerX on March 23, 2015, 02:01:51 PM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ONLINE RELATIONSHIPS

And ya, they are a joke. I had no prior experience with them though, nor with a physical relationship. I could not have picked a worse person to try it with, either.

As a recent Iron Banner Veteran:

Literally every single thing in Destiny.
There are so many one shot kill bullshit things in Destiny multiplayer it's ridiculous.

It's by far the most unfair, frustrating, unbalanced competitive mode I've played in my life.