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9721
« on: July 13, 2015, 03:23:10 PM »
1. Doing drugs isn't bad and you shouldn't be ashamed for doing them.
2. Shawn is taking all you clowns to school.
3. Nothing wrong with being happy for no reason or taking something that helps you be happy.
A) Most people can make lists
B) It's easy to make lists
C) Making lists don't make what's in them absolute truths
Except everything I said was on point. You and verby are getting ripped to shreds in this thread.
1) Your list's order was incorrect
2) This whole thread tries to explain why it's wrong to be only happy
3) You're known to be stupid
I'm known to be stupid? That's cute
No, it's the annoying stereotypical american kind of stupid, not the cute kind.
Nigga just read through your posts in this thread.
Do you have ANY life and social experience at all? I feel bad for you.
We just think differently, but while I understand that, you don't seem to. I have a somewhat fulfilling life, and I have a lot of social experience. My life's joy is knowledge. Yours is probably sitting in the sunlight drinking beers with loved ones while your kids play nearby.
9722
« on: July 13, 2015, 03:16:12 PM »
1. Doing drugs isn't bad and you shouldn't be ashamed for doing them.
2. Shawn is taking all you clowns to school.
3. Nothing wrong with being happy for no reason or taking something that helps you be happy.
A) Most people can make lists
B) It's easy to make lists
C) Making lists don't make what's in them absolute truths
Except everything I said was on point. You and verby are getting ripped to shreds in this thread.
1) Your list's order was incorrect
2) This whole thread tries to explain why it's wrong to be only happy
3) You're known to be stupid
I'm known to be stupid? That's cute
No, it's the annoying stereotypical american kind of stupid, not the cute kind.
9723
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:49:48 PM »
bored and curious what it felt like. pot that is
it was fun and interesting a couple of times but mostly it had a weird effect on me. cant say i really care to do recreationly again
Weird effect? Isn't that the point?
9724
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:46:29 PM »
T4R
9725
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:44:44 PM »
1. Doing drugs isn't bad and you shouldn't be ashamed for doing them.
2. Shawn is taking all you clowns to school.
3. Nothing wrong with being happy for no reason or taking something that helps you be happy.
A) Most people can make lists
B) It's easy to make lists
C) Making lists don't make what's in them absolute truths
Except everything I said was on point. You and verby are getting ripped to shreds in this thread.
1) Your list's order was incorrect 2) This whole thread tries to explain why it's wrong to be only happy 3) You're known to be stupid
9726
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:43:17 PM »
i think desty has a crush on you
shuuuuuuut uuuuuup!
9727
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:42:36 PM »
Anyone and everyone could be your enemy. Assume everyone is your enemy, or has the ability to be. Life is unpredictable. LOL
Arrogance will be the death of you.
Who's all ILLURMENIATE now? Tables have turned
9728
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:10:42 PM »
Demonic chronic and slash is the same guy
9729
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:07:52 PM »
Does tobacco count?
No, smoking makes you cool.
just look at me, i'm the coolest motherfucker around
Slash is actually the coolest one around.
is he though?
Let's see Cool name / Handsome / Reminded me of my cool art teacher before he became kill urself memester / funny memester / Might not be cool anymore, but he was cool
9730
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:04:53 PM »
Does tobacco count?
No, smoking makes you cool.
just look at me, i'm the coolest motherfucker around
Slash is actually the coolest one around.
9731
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:03:06 PM »
Does tobacco count?
No, smoking makes you cool.
9732
« on: July 13, 2015, 02:02:48 PM »
1. Doing drugs isn't bad and you shouldn't be ashamed for doing them.
2. Shawn is taking all you clowns to school.
3. Nothing wrong with being happy for no reason or taking something that helps you be happy.
A) Most people can make lists B) It's easy to make lists C) Making lists don't make what's in them absolute truths
9733
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:22:06 PM »
You can ask me to be more clear, but then ask me on specific things. I'm not willing to initiate thinking of a high level
9734
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:19:27 PM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?
Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.
No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
"for a healthy state of being" No shit.
I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.
We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.
Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"
Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.
Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.
But it literally is though.
But it literally isn't.
Then explain its existence.
First you must establish your base more clearly. "Happiness = slavery" is not clear, but a general and vague statement. Explain how it is slavery.
It's there to get us to work. It's like a whip making us do things. Remove the whip and we won't do things. I say let's do things without the whip, and do so as free people. It's a difficult step, but that's why it's called philosophy, and ideas, or goals.
9735
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:16:07 PM »
I don't think sadness is the opposite of happiness. You can feel happy when sad.
9736
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:15:23 PM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?
Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.
No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
"for a healthy state of being" No shit.
I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.
We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.
Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"
Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.
Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.
But it literally is though.
But it literally isn't.
Then explain its existence.
9737
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:14:35 PM »
LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy. you're probably the worst troll ever
The fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place).
But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.
I think that depression is the lack of drive, not feelings.
Depression is a lot of things mixed into one, but not one of them is happiness.
Do you know what'd happen if you'd have "a lot of things mixed into one" for a prolonged period of time- say 1 month? You'd fucking explode m8 dead The mind can't keep up with that.
9738
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:12:12 PM »
LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy. you're probably the worst troll ever
The fuck? I'm not trolling, and depression IS the opposite of being happy. I can tell you're defeated because you're back peddling to throwing out insults rather than addressing my points and using evidence to support your own claims (which you never do in the first place).
But sure, just call me a troll because I've proved you wrong.
I think that depression is the lack of drive, not feelings.
9739
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:11:34 PM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?
Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.
No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
"for a healthy state of being" No shit.
I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.
We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.
Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"
Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.
Happiness = slavery. Gotchya. I can now discount your future opinions and posts in their entirety.
But it literally is though.
9740
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:10:33 PM »
Before this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive.
I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best.
"I can't think of any real reasons to choose a moral path in life and defend it, so I'll just say be productive. God I sound so smart!"
You can be productive by doing moral things like buying ice cream for children to make them happy, or to help an old person across the street.
If you think it's insulting to the old man, then you're smart. The old man in this scenario is fully capable of doing it himself, and asking to help him will make him think that he's losing his abilities, which will kill him faster according to Psychology.
Same thing goes for offering your seat on the bus. A guy has gray hair, and I'm thinking should I offer my seat? Then I think no, because I realize that he can't be more than 60, so it'd be an insult to him.
There's nothing wrong with morality, but don't do a task blindly and call it moral, because the truth is more important. Would you rather feel like you helped someone but actually screwed them over, or actually help them by not doing anything directly, or at all?
"Being good HURTS PEEPUL!!! BEING GUD IS BAAAAD!!! ILLUMANERTI"
I'm saying that what you define as good might be bad to other people, and thus you'd be folling yourself. Think before you act is the catchphrase/motto here
9741
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:09:17 PM »
LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy. you're probably the worst troll ever
In his defense we all combined did write a lot. Even you'd probably get a bit dizzy. Amplify that and you have his responses.
9742
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:07:58 PM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?
Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.
No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
"for a healthy state of being" No shit.
I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death.
We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming.
Now THERE'S the fedora-tipping skills I was looking for. "Don't be a slave anymore! Free yourself! Don't be happy, it's apart of the ILLUMINERTI !!!111!!!11! I'M TRYING TO SAVE YOU SHEEPLE WITH THE GOSPEL OF TRUE FREEEEEEDOMMMM!!!!1"
Yeah, what's wrong with that though? Do you want to be a slave? Go ahead then.
9743
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:07:06 PM »
That's retarded and wrong, but okay.
Nope. It doesn't. As you pointed out, everything that is man-made is still natural. But the definition of "artificial" is "man-made". So, obviously, there are things that are both artificial and natural. By your logic.
Because it doesn't accomplish anything. Being happy over absolutely nothing is retarded. Insane.
Not by my own volition. There's a difference between choosing to do drugs yourself, and being affected by drugs without even knowing it.
Just because I'm depressed doesn't mean I can't be happy. You don't understand what depression is.
It's correct and you haven't proven me wrong in any way, but okay. Tell yourself whatever your self-serving bias needs to think you're right.
Nope. By my logic there is NO artificiality. So once again, you're wrong.
Wrong again, being happy over nothing has the benefits of being happy and producing a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is insane ignorance of the highest degree.
You choose every day to ingest drugs that cause happiness. EVERYTHING is within your control - don't try to dodge responsibility for your actions. You can choose not to be "artificially" happy at any time, since "real" happiness is unachievable, apparently.
LOL I understand what depression is, and it's the opposite of happy. So once again, you're wrong. You're not happy, you're depressed. That's why it's called DEPRESSION. I'm so glad I've got a depressed boy trying to tell me how to be "truly" happy. I see it's really working out. Come back and give advice on happiness once you're "truly" happy and not depressed. It defeats your whole argument.
You're taking the piss
9744
« on: July 13, 2015, 12:03:48 PM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve?
Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
False. Happiness is essential for a healthy state of being. To argue otherwise is ignorance of the highest degree. To argue it's pointless is ignorance of the highest degree. Your fedora tipping skills are mediocre and need practice.
No, you're trying to think like an intellectual try hard and asking stupid questions that already have answers. Happiness is an important part of life and is, in no small way, just a "byproduct".
"for a healthy state of being" No shit. I've read some books about stuff like that, so I know. Remove the reward system in mice, and they'll starve to death. We're above that though. We can think. Just because you were raised in the ghettos with an abusive dad doesn't mean that it's okay for you to be a burglar. Do something with yourself. Use your mind and say "no". We're not slaves to our programming. Yes, I'm an intellectual. We humans are intellectually capable of higher thinking, so use it.
9745
« on: July 13, 2015, 11:59:32 AM »
Before this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive.
I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best.
"I can't think of any real reasons to choose a moral path in life and defend it, so I'll just say be productive. God I sound so smart!"
You can be productive by doing moral things like buying ice cream for children to make them happy, or to help an old person across the street. If you think it's insulting to the old man, then you're smart. The old man in this scenario is fully capable of doing it himself, and asking to help him will make him think that he's losing his abilities, which will kill him faster according to Psychology. Same thing goes for offering your seat on the bus. A guy has gray hair, and I'm thinking should I offer my seat? Then I think no, because I realize that he can't be more than 60, so it'd be an insult to him. There's nothing wrong with morality, but don't do a task blindly and call it moral, because the truth is more important. Would you rather feel like you helped someone but actually screwed them over, or actually help them by not doing anything directly, or at all?
9746
« on: July 13, 2015, 11:54:26 AM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy.
Christ you're a casual.
Why does there have to be a reason to be happy? WHY? WHY CAN'T SOMEONE JUST BE HAPPY? OH NOOOOO HAPPINESS IS BAD ;_;
God you sound like an intellectual try hard. Get the fuck outta' here.
Because without a reason there's no need for happiness. What is the point? It's a momentary satisfaction that won't impact your life in any good way in the long run, and while you're being high you're pretty much turned off intellectually. Happiness isn't bad, depression isn't bad. They just are there. Remove feelings and what do you have? In your case nothing, because you rely on feelings for no reason. What's the point to being happy for no reason? What does that achieve? Thanks, I'm trying to think like an intellectual, and not someone who follows their "heart" and thinks that feeling happy is the answer when it is a byproduct.
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« on: July 13, 2015, 11:48:34 AM »
Before this thread I was pretty much a nihilist, but now I prefer whatever you call trying to be productive.
I'm not quite a utilitarian, but I believe that life doesn't hold a purpose, so you should make the purpose to produce as much as you can. Be evil, be good, it doesn't matter. Be producitve in the way that you think is the best.
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« on: July 13, 2015, 11:41:13 AM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is.
It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
He's saying it's artificial. I just told him why he's wrong.
Wait, fucking LOL it's pointless to be happy for no reason? Oh sure, let's all just be depressed and suicidal until we can find a reason to be happy. Fucking retard.
If being happy just for the sake of being happy isn't good enough for either of you, both of you should just kill yourselves.
Why!? Why do you HAVE to be happy? Stop following norms where if someone isn't smiling they're sad. Occasional happiness and occasional everything is how it's supposed to be. You don't become depressed just because you're not happy. Christ you're a casual.
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« on: July 13, 2015, 11:36:33 AM »
It's not about solving problems Then it's bad, and idiotic. You should only ever be happy for, I don't know, a good reason. If you're happy for no reason, that's a waste of time.
If you're not happy for any real reason, then you're not genuinely happy. You're only happy because you forced dopamine to be released--that's it. You didn't accomplish anything.
And yes, it's most definitely artificial happiness.
Actually there's nothing artificial about it. It's as natural as any source of happiness - pot comes from nature, humans use natural things to help themselves in multiple ways. Pot giving happiness is one of them.
Oh, and so are the things humans create. Humans are nature, so therefore any of our actions are a natural act. LSD is a natural as it's made by us and we have natural tendencies to create things that please us. Since humans naturally do and make things to make them happy, ingesting substances to help accomplish that and creating substances to help reach that are all very natural occurrences.
So no, you're wrong, again. There's nothing unnatural about pot, or any other drugs for that matter, especially in terms of reaching or making more happiness. It's an additional resource and you're a fool for thinking it's not smart to use all the resources we can.
Yes it is. It's basically taking a pill labeled happiness. It's pointless to just be happy for no reason. You're missing the point here. It's not about natural or not, it's about reason and purpose. To smoking pot there isn't one that's genuine.
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« on: July 13, 2015, 11:32:12 AM »
and have his voice of course
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