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7171
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:30:34 PM »
I have to respect someone who's a demon at tetris
Technically I'm a god.
7172
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:28:35 PM »
Also, no. It's easy to think that we're in the safe 'cause the government is doing stuff for us, but they're essentially protecting their cattle.
I haven't stated that government is infallible, at all. Actually, that's entirely wrong. The point is that certain natural rights are given in exchange for the security of society, to protect their other rights and assets. This is the social contract. Government governs solely by the power invested in it by the people.
For a people to thrive, a government must be in place to support that growth, and give it direction. Supporting government isn't blindly accepting everything that's given: it's making sure that it continues to support the needs of the people.
Yeah, that sounds like what you'd read from a philosophy book. Do you think that is the case in real life?
For people to thrive? That's useful if the government doesn't have any goals except to improve the country, but a government may have other plans. Let's take World War One for example. The war essentially happened because nations wanted to see who were the superior kind. They chose to invest in a pretty much pointless war instead of focusing on improving the well being of the people.
Eh, you're kind of oversimplifying WWI a bit
Yeah, I know. but a foolproof example of how governments might not want the best for their people is North Korea. The reason why I'm not so eloquent is because this really isn't my area. I've very little experience discussing these kinds of things.
7173
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:18:19 PM »
Government is established to support the people. Ergo, supporting the government is the best course to support the people.
I'm guessing that you base the assumption on the current task of the government from the populace's POV, correct?
Based on the social contract, Magna Carta, and John Locke's Treatises of Government.
I don't know what all that is, and I don't need to to see a different POV.
You should too. Here's the lead:
The government governs.
Who are the subjects? By what power do they remain governed?
People allow themselves to be governed in return for protection (primarily through the rule of civil law). The law of nature isn't sustainable; it proceeds society, and if that society decays into despotism, it follows as well. That's a shitty way of summing up Locke's second Treatise, but I would recommend you look into them.
"I need these people to work for me, so I will hire them, then I will make them do my jobs. Great, now I have enough money and power to make these areas mine, and if people wish to live in them I will tax them. Oh no, people are revolting, I better improve living conditions so that they don't bring me down."
People don't revolt because of a necessary use of the power invested in the governing power, they revolt because of extensive overreach, corruption, or totalitarianism. If that so happens, a return to the law of nature follows and the cycle begins anew.
The point I was trying to make is that the person who got all of those things, or all of that power in other words, wasn't an authorative figure. He just wanted to make money and get power because he could. Thing is, he was smart enough to realize that he couldn't be so careless, and so he appealed to the people a little. The people become content, and he's on his way to make more money and gain more power.
But he is an authority figure. You don't have to be authoritative to have authority.
That's what I said? I was trying to say that authoritative figures are normal blokes, and not these great people, only I said it the other way around.
7174
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:16:52 PM »
Also, no. It's easy to think that we're in the safe 'cause the government is doing stuff for us, but they're essentially protecting their cattle.
I haven't stated that government is infallible, at all. Actually, that's entirely wrong. The point is that certain natural rights are given in exchange for the security of society, to protect their other rights and assets. This is the social contract. Government governs solely by the power invested in it by the people.
For a people to thrive, a government must be in place to support that growth, and give it direction. Supporting government isn't blindly accepting everything that's given: it's making sure that it continues to support the needs of the people.
Yeah, that sounds like what you'd read from a philosophy book. Do you think that is the case in real life? For people to thrive? That's useful if the government doesn't have any goals except to improve the country, but a government may have other plans. Let's take World War One for example. The war essentially happened because nations wanted to see who were the superior kind. They chose to invest in a pretty much pointless war instead of focusing on improving the well being of the people. Another example of how governments might not want the best for their people is North Korea.
7175
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:08:17 PM »
Government is established to support the people. Ergo, supporting the government is the best course to support the people.
I'm guessing that you base the assumption on the current task of the government from the populace's POV, correct?
Based on the social contract, Magna Carta, and John Locke's Treatises of Government.
I don't know what all that is, and I don't need to to see a different POV.
You should too. Here's the lead:
The government governs.
Who are the subjects? By what power do they remain governed?
People allow themselves to be governed in return for protection (primarily through the rule of civil law). The law of nature isn't sustainable; it proceeds society, and if that society decays into despotism, it follows as well. That's a shitty way of summing up Locke's second Treatise, but I would recommend you look into them.
"I need these people to work for me, so I will hire them, then I will make them do my jobs. Great, now I have enough money and power to make these areas mine, and if people wish to live in them I will tax them. Oh no, people are revolting, I better improve living conditions so that they don't bring me down."
People don't revolt because of a necessary use of the power invested in the governing power, they revolt because of extensive overreach, corruption, or totalitarianism. If that so happens, a return to the law of nature follows and the cycle begins anew.
The point I was trying to make is that the person who got all of those things, or all of that power in other words, wasn't an authorative figure. He just wanted to make money and get power because he could. Thing is, he was smart enough to realize that he couldn't be so careless, and so he appealed to the people a little. The people become content, and he's on his way to make more money and gain more power.
7176
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:05:03 PM »
Also, no. It's easy to think that we're in the safe 'cause the government is doing stuff for us, but they're essentially protecting their cattle.
7177
« on: January 24, 2016, 04:02:41 PM »
Government is established to support the people. Ergo, supporting the government is the best course to support the people.
I'm guessing that you base the assumption on the current task of the government from the populace's POV, correct?
Based on the social contract, Magna Carta, and John Locke's Treatises of Government.
I don't know what all that is, and I don't need to to see a different POV.
You should too. Here's the lead:
The government governs.
Who are the subjects? By what power do they remain governed?
People allow themselves to be governed in return for protection (primarily through the rule of civil law). The law of nature isn't sustainable; it proceeds society, and if that society decays into despotism, it follows as well. That's a shitty way of summing up Locke's second Treatise, but I would recommend you look into them.
"I need these people to work for me, so I will hire them, then I will make them do my jobs. Great, now I have enough money and power to make these areas mine, and if people wish to live in them I will tax them. Oh no, people are revolting, I better improve living conditions so that they don't bring me down."
7178
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:58:28 PM »
That's quite respectable.
7179
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:49:13 PM »
We'll see next week we'll see
Wait, so you're choosing to go offline for a week?
7180
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:45:09 PM »
Yeah, I can use this week to improve still do you want to keep on playing?
I'm sorry, but why? There's no competition from your side, and you're playing the game then bam, an insta-KO. You'd do better to play against other people.
7181
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:42:09 PM »
Still, it was pretty fun to play Tetris again.
but our match was pretty much me having sex with a partner just lying there motionless.
7182
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:41:15 PM »
Outclassed.
3-0 and 19 lines sent vs 1 line sent in all the matches pretty much.
You don't have to go offline for a week, but if you don't you're banned from betting against me.
7183
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:35:19 PM »
I sent you an invite
7184
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:33:22 PM »
nvm got it
7185
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:31:45 PM »
Same, about 2 years.
Dude, I can't find a way to play against just you. Do you have the facebook version?
7186
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:27:06 PM »
How do I play against you? also, nice, you're familiar with the game
7187
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:23:19 PM »
I'm already refreshing my inbox
7189
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:18:48 PM »
Let's play chess.
Sure, but after I play Tetris with the other person since I want to play as much as I can, and I am quite bad at chess, but a god on Tetris (Tetris God is the highest rank).
I just want to play for fun though. I don't want to kick you off the site.
What's the fun in that? I'm not a chess player, so I don't enjoy chess like you might.
7190
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:17:24 PM »
Oh you want to play me right now?
Yeah, why not? It's 22:16 and I've got school tomorrow. After school I've got mma, so I won't be home until about 20 hours.
7191
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:16:19 PM »
Government is established to support the people. Ergo, supporting the government is the best course to support the people.
I'm guessing that you base the assumption on the current task of the government from the populace's POV, correct?
Based on the social contract, Magna Carta, and John Locke's Treatises of Government.
I don't know what all that is, and I don't need to to see a different POV. You should too. Here's the lead: The government governs.
7192
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:14:53 PM »
Why are you taking so long?
7193
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:10:28 PM »
Tetris for 300 Alex.
You're on
What site do you wanna use?
Anything is fine, I'll beat you anyways. :^3
Alright, with that attitude I'm guessing you don't have a full ranked Tetris game on Facebook Tetris Battle 2p, so I'm just gonna create some new account on this site and play against you from level one http://www.tetrisfriends.com/users/register.php?saveGame=true&linkTag=nav
7194
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:02:22 PM »
Tetris for 300 Alex.
You're on What site do you wanna use?
7195
« on: January 24, 2016, 03:02:00 PM »
Let's play chess.
Sure, but after I play Tetris with the other person since I want to play as much as I can, and I am quite bad at chess, but a god on Tetris (Tetris God is the highest rank).
7196
« on: January 24, 2016, 02:51:44 PM »
Government is established to support the people. Ergo, supporting the government is the best course to support the people.
I'm guessing that you base the assumption on the current task of the government from the populace's POV, correct?
7197
« on: January 24, 2016, 10:20:43 AM »
You're not a bad poster, just a mediocre person. Changing yourself would be difficult.
On what basis, may I ask?
You may, but I'm not gonna answer.
7198
« on: January 24, 2016, 10:16:40 AM »
Ender
5 years
5 long years
lol what
7199
« on: January 24, 2016, 10:16:14 AM »
Your son's.
It was a crime for you to procreate.
Didn't he adopt?
7200
« on: January 24, 2016, 10:15:28 AM »
You're not a bad poster, just a mediocre person. Changing yourself would be difficult.
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