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What Type of Moderation Would You Like to See for Sep7agon.net

Strict Moderation
8 (14%)
Lax Moderation
14 (24.6%)
Hybrid Moderation
35 (61.4%)

Total Members Voted: 55

Voting closed: December 28, 2014, 03:57:22 PM

Polling on Moderation Style for Sep7agon.Net

 
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Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Hence the poll being open until at least Sunday.


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You're not supposed to be able to see the results.
I don't like that. I'd prefer to know what the majority view is.
I see no reason to keep our opinions secret when we're posting them below.

Plus it would tell me if the moderation is going against the majority view.
You'll find out when it ends, Jesus.

It's to prevent possible bias.


 
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Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.


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You're not supposed to be able to see the results.
I don't like that. I'd prefer to know what the majority view is.
I see no reason to keep our opinions secret when we're posting them below.

Plus it would tell me if the moderation is going against the majority view.
You'll find out when it ends, Jesus.

It's to prevent possible bias.
How are you going to be biased? You can't see the results until you vote and you can't change your vote...


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Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Actually, that's how I spend my Christmas.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
You're not supposed to be able to see the results.
I don't like that. I'd prefer to know what the majority view is.
I see no reason to keep our opinions secret when we're posting them below.

Plus it would tell me if the moderation is going against the majority view.
You'll find out when it ends, Jesus.

It's to prevent possible bias.
How are you going to be biased? You can't see the results until you vote and you can't change your vote...

I can't see the results at all. Regardless, it's basically blinding.
You go in, read the options, and pick your choice. You don't see what others pick.

At the end of the poll, we'll either show you the poll results or we'll simply announce it to you.
And of course mention what will and/or will not be changing based on those results.


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You're not supposed to be able to see the results.
I don't like that. I'd prefer to know what the majority view is.
I see no reason to keep our opinions secret when we're posting them below.

Plus it would tell me if the moderation is going against the majority view.
You'll find out when it ends, Jesus.

It's to prevent possible bias.
How are you going to be biased? You can't see the results until you vote and you can't change your vote...

I can't see the results at all. Regardless, it's basically blinding.
You go in, read the options, and pick your choice. You don't see what others pick.

At the end of the poll, we'll either show you the poll results or we'll simply announce it to you.
And of course mention what will and/or will not be changing based on those results.
Whatever gets your guy's jollys off I guess. ::)


 
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I can't see the results at all. Regardless, it's basically blinding.
You go in, read the options, and pick your choice. You don't see what others pick.
That doesn't really answer his question.


 
 
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<.<
Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Actually, that's how I spend my Christmas.
Well it's how I'll probably spend mine too, but I'd rather have something less dreary to be the topic of discussion.


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Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Actually, that's how I spend my Christmas.
Well it's how I'll probably spend mine too, but I'd rather have something less dreary to be the topic of discussion.


This is much more interesting than anything I will be forced to do.


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Almost always, with moderation
I'm fine with hybrid.


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I neither fear, nor despise.
I can't see the results at all. Regardless, it's basically blinding.
You go in, read the options, and pick your choice. You don't see what others pick.
That doesn't really answer his question.

He asked how there was bias.
I explained in depth how this poll removes some possible bias.


 
 
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Wrong fucking thread. Sorry Icy.

Enjoy your polling malarkey, I shall take my saline elsewhere >____>
Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 06:03:55 PM by Mr Psychologist


 
 
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Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.
This was a pretty significant topic in my Legal Psychology class. I don't remember all that much of it, but it's pretty generally accepted that even if you don't explicitly and consciously make a decision based on the majority, it still plays a role in our subconscious.


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Worst time for this discussion as I'm juggling family stuff like I'm sure many of you are. Won't be able to read or discuss as much as I'd like for a couple days here.

^Hit the nail on the fucking head.

It's fucking christmas, we shouldn't be fething around on the bloody forums trying to figure out some rule change bollocks.

Actually, that's how I spend my Christmas.
Well it's how I'll probably spend mine too, but I'd rather have something less dreary to be the topic of discussion.


This is much more interesting than anything I will be forced to do.
Well it's looking like I'm going to have to vacate my fething room for the next week, which is just fucking peachy. So I can't even retreat from the festivities to fucking recuperate. *sigh*
I'm going to end up like fucking scrooge before the morning at this rate. And if the ghost of christmas past comes in through my window I'm ganking the fucker.

Unlucky. I at least get to retreat to my room when I get sick of people. Which is pretty quickly.


 
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He asked how there was bias.
I explained in depth how this poll removes some possible bias.
Four short sentences isn't what I'd call "in depth", but whatever.

I have no problem with the results' visibility, I just don't really think that was an adequate response...


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.
This was a pretty significant topic in my Legal Psychology class. I don't remember all that much of it, but it's pretty generally accepted that even if you don't explicitly and consciously make a decision based on the majority, it still plays a role in our subconscious.
I'd like to see proof or evidence of that. I'm not doubting you, but I mean, automatically, it's just inherently a dubious claim, isn't it?
Last Edit: December 24, 2014, 06:07:50 PM by Verbatim


 
 
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Yeah, that too... even though... I can't imagine what it must be like to be influenced by the majority opinion.
This was a pretty significant topic in my Legal Psychology class. I don't remember all that much of it, but it's pretty generally accepted that even if you don't explicitly and consciously make a decision based on the majority, it still plays a role in our subconscious.
I'd like to see proof or evidence of that. I'm not doubting you, but I mean, automatically, it's just inherently a dubious claim, isn't it?
That's not something I can provide just like that. I took this class almost three years ago and I'm not going to look for my notes at 1:30 in the morning.

It does make sense when you think about it though. As far as I remember, the logic behind it is that seeing the majority's opinion first will always set some kind of anchor point or standard that people will subconsciously use as a reference point when they form their own opinion. Instead of devising a completely unique and uninfluenced stance, people will conjure up their opinion in agreement, opposition or alteration of the majority opinion.

It's similar to answering the following questions. When the question is merely "what do you think of...?", people will reason and decide differently than when theyr' asked "what do you think of... and do you feel like it is indeed recommended?".

The reasons I saw this in my legal psychology class is because of how it can influence a jury's and defence attorney's decision. When someone is faced with the question of "what kind of punishment do you think this criminal deserves", they are a lot more inclined to come to a different answer when they're informed of what the public prosecutor (being in this case "the people" and the majority) is asking for than when they're not. The explanation lies again in the fact that people will subconsciously use the majority's opinion as a reference point and form their opinion in relation to this opinion.

Of course, the better informed someone is and the more they've thought about something beforehand, the less likely they are to actually be swayed by the majority opinion. But it does subconsciously play a role when you first get to see what others think before you make your own opinion.

So yeah, I can't really provide you with a source, but I still hope you at least get what I'm trying to say. I briefly looked for "majority opinion bias in trials" on Google but couldn't find much. Maybe Mr. Psy knows more about this.


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Hybrid. Mods are not here to be buddy-buddy with everybody; they're here to enforce the rules and make sure it's a pleasant environment for everybody, not just a small and select group of people. Remember, many left because DeeJ completely ignored his job as a community manager and we don't need a repeat of that


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I think it should be lax, but blatant shitposts that aren't even an attempt at being funny should be locked.


 
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I think there is a problem if you have to ask the community how to moderate


 
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Hybrid sounds pretty good.


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I think there is a problem if you have to ask the community how to moderate
Don't really see the issue in asking the community what style of moderation we'd prefer.
Especially since this is still a young site. You don't want to drive people off with drastic changes out of no where.
Far better to hear people out.


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Strict. I also want to add that mods need to act more professional. Not baiting or making shitposts.

But that's some funny ass shit.


I'm sorry that I want to have mods that spend more time doing their fucking job than acting like children.

Jeez Patton, calm your tits


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Strict moderation doesn't work due to this forum's "culture". We're used to a certain level of freedom and the privilege of speaking our minds.

"Hybrid" moderation makes the most sense to me, because it sounds like you're saying anything that isn't a personal attack or something actually serious, won't be dealt with as seriously. But you need to be consistent. You can't ban one person for calling another "stupid" in the Serious forum, then verbally warn another for the same thing. Ban consistently. And another thing, you can't let your bias (yes, I'm serious) get in the way. I see a lot of times action is taken against the person who the mod likes less, where as the more well liked poster is warned verbally by the same mod. Now, I hear a lot of people here talking about spam. What spam? We need to be focusing on the people actually dragging the community down by being hostile, argumentative, and disagreeable. I see a lot of times more let arguments/debates get out of control THEN take action on both users. They try to give a verbal warning, but it rarely does anything. So why not give 24 hour bans for when the first insult is handed out? Any trolling or hostility in Serious should not be tolerated. Same with any other section, but reduce the time to 12 or 8 hours. (Unless it's a joke)

Lax moderation doesn't sound like a great idea. It'll just cause more problems.


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Hybrid system, with lax on shitposting but strict on spam.

The argument that being strict on this will reduce activity is flawed. Clearly if the majority of activity is spam/shitposting, it's a problem that lies with the posting community, not the moderation procedures.


 
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Can anyone make the distinction between shitposting and spam?

Because to me, they're the same thing.


 
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Can anyone make the distinction between shitposting and spam?

Because to me, they're the same thing.

Shitposting: "I have established the nation of Fagistan" - Posted by IcyWind

Spam: "I have established the nation of Fagistan" - Posted by IcyWind
"I have established the nation of Homosexuality" - Posted by IcyWind
"I have established the nation of No Girls" - Posted by IcyWind
"I have established the nation of Penises" - Posted by IcyWind
"I have established the nation of Butts" - Posted by IcyWind

The repetitive nature of the threads, all posted by the same user with little distinction, is what an example of spam would be - at least to me.
Last Edit: December 26, 2014, 09:18:03 PM by Fagcicle