ITT I learn you about some math: Gabriel's Horn

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First step, graph 1/x. Unless you're literally a toddler, you should know what this looks like, even you hippy poli-sci mofos:

 

Goddamn beautiful. But negatives are stupid so let's pretend that only numbers on the x axis exist from 1 to infinity.
Now here's where you strap on your big-boy pocket protector. Take that 2D graph, and spin that shit around the x axis. Here's what you get:



Welcome to calculus 3, integrals in three dimensions.

Why am I showing you this? This object, called Gabriel's Horn because of the Bible or some shit, has a couple interesting properties. First of all, it has infinite surface area. This might not sound so surprising because it goes on to the right for infinity. Cool, so if you have an object with literally infinite surface area, meaning it has a shell that goes on infinitely, then how much stuff can you put in it? Probably infinite volume, right? Or damn-near close (because limits or derivatives or something you heard in high school once)?

Fuck no, this shape actually has a volume of exactly pi. Infinite area on the outside, finite volume on the inside. But why is the volume equal to pi?

This shape is, essentially, an infinite set of 2D circles stacked on each other, and the area of each circle is pi*r^2 (this is like 4th grade, try to keep up). I already gave you the radius: it's 1/x. Just look at the first graph for like 10 seconds and it'll click.

So in Calculus, you can find a way to find the volume of all those circles: it's the sum of the area of each 2D circle, until infinity.

So we know the area of any of the circles is:

π*r^2 = π*(1/x)^2 = π/(x^2)

Anyone that's heard of limits can see where this is going. Take the integral of this function from 1 to infinity and you get pi. Why? Because of limits, dumbass.



What's the limit of 1/x (or 1/x^2) as x reaches infinity? It's zero. One divided by a really huge number is basically 0. So when the effect of the radius becomes insignificant, all we have left is π. /math

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Last Edit: November 13, 2014, 11:11:12 PM by E̲n̲ga̲ge̲d̲T̲u̲r̲k̲e̲y


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What's the limit of 1/x (or 1/x^2) as x reaches zero? It's zero. One divided by a really huge number is basically 0.

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What's the limit of 1/x (or 1/x^2) as x reaches zero? It's zero. One divided by a really huge number is basically 0.

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Welcome to calculus 3, integrals in three dimensions.
nigga Iearned how to do this in calc 1.

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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.


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Never got to third dimensional stuff in Calc. Interesting read though.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?


 
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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Like I said, an irrational number is still constant. There's no such thing as an 'infinite number'.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?


 
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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.


 
 
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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.
Pi = ~3
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My stupidity is self evident.
Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.
I've been thinking of doing something like that for law stuff, but not much time or motivation.
Sounds interesting, will be looking forward to it should you ever decide to do it.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.

You're both better at math than the rest of the forums so it doesn't really matter!


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.

I'm not huge on making threads, either. When I made this thread I was thinking something similar; if people responded well, I'd post more stuff later. Not sure what to cover next though.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.

I'm not huge on making threads, either. When I made this thread I was thinking something similar; if people responded well, I'd post more stuff later. Not sure what to cover next though.
I'm kind of hoping you might get into some higher math. Although like you said I'm not sure how many views that'd get, it's ultimately up to you.

I was considering doing one over misconceptions about irrationals, what w/ Assassin's comment and all.


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Pi isn't a finite volume. You're maths wrong.

Are you trying to claim that pi isn't constant? Because it certainly is. Just because it's irrational doesn't mean it isn't a finite volume.
Then what's the final decimal of Pi?

Are you seriously trying to make the argument that non terminating numbers are infinite in value?
This thread makes me want to do a series of threads where I *try to help clear up some mathematical misconceptions the non-math plebs have.

Although I'm not sure how many views it'd get.

I'm down for it. You and Turkey Math-ifying the Serious forums would be spectacular
Tbh turkey'd probably be more suitable for it, not only is he better at math than me, I'm also not much of a thread maker, but I'm willing to give a shot.

I'm not huge on making threads, either. When I made this thread I was thinking something similar; if people responded well, I'd post more stuff later. Not sure what to cover next though.

Something involving cardinality