Would you play a game that you lose?

Mr. Psychologist · September 01, 2014, 02:55:59 PM

I'm not talking about dying and respawning or losing in game cash and items, but a game where you can just flat out lose at the end.

Some strategy games are like that, where you can just end up wiped out by the AI but I mean more along the lines of a story driven game.

Take Halo for example, for an alternate timeline that would never happen, Chief fails to stop the rings from firing and wiping out all life in the galaxy. Everybody dies and it's game ogre. The only similar game I can think of, that would allow you to 'lose' is Mass Effect. If you choose anything other than Synthesis, you lose. But it's not so much of a defeat as a pyrrhic victory, I think it would be interesting if there was another ending where the Reapers wipe everyone out completely, but that's more of an optional ending caused by you sucking shit at the game. (I don't think it's really possible to lose properly) But say that the canon ending for a game, like Halo, ended with a complete failure for humanity.

Rambling aside, if there was a game that you know you lose in, would you still play it? Or would you avoid it?
(Alternatively, can you think of any games that end like that?)

I can vaguely think of Spec Ops: The Line, which is certainly a game that you lose just by playing it <.<

BlitzFiend · September 01, 2014, 02:57:04 PM

i play life, so i guess that's a yes

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Nascent Email · September 01, 2014, 03:14:28 PM

Yes. I absolutely would. Indeed that was the ending I was hoping Mas Effect was going to have.

Ásgeirr · September 01, 2014, 03:15:32 PM

Some of my favorite matches have ended up with the opposing team as winners. CS:GO

So, yeah, if its a good fight.

Juuzou · September 01, 2014, 03:18:20 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · September 01, 2014, 03:19:07 PM

So not like Shogun 2 where you can put a hundred hours into a campaign and still lose because realm divide and the computer is a bastard, but a game where the final level is scripted to end in failure?

FUCK YEAH! I love stories that end like that.

Yu · September 01, 2014, 03:19:54 PM

With a good story, I wouldn't complain.

DAS B00T x2 · September 01, 2014, 03:21:44 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 01, 2014, 02:55:59 PM

I can vaguely think of Spec Ops: The Line, which is certainly a game that you lose just by playing it <.<

I know I lose every time I try to beat that part where the damn chopper is chasing you through the tower...

Mr. Psychologist · September 01, 2014, 04:04:53 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 01, 2014, 03:19:07 PM

So not like Shogun 2 where you can put a hundred hours into a campaign and still lose because realm divide and the computer is a bastard, but a game where the final level is scripted to end in failure?

FUCK YEAH! I love stories that end like that.

Fucking realm divide ._.

Luckily for me, I already had the entire of southern Nippon under my Shimazu/Satsuma boots so it was just a matter of advancing forwards and blockading two chokepoints with massive fleets <.<

FOTS is a bitch though, every fucker starts rebelling the minute you build them a factory farm to stop them from starving ._______________.

Mr. Psychologist · September 01, 2014, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 01, 2014, 03:21:44 PM

I know I lose every time I try to beat that part where the damn chopper is chasing you through the tower...

Hehe <.<

It's still a fun Babby's first warcrime simulator though >.>

Super Irish · September 01, 2014, 05:16:48 PM

So a loosing side of the story?

Sure. The loosing doesn't matter so long as the story is good. I'm not sure if it would sell well though, things with sad endings tend to not be the most popular (the same applies to movies).

True Turquoise · September 01, 2014, 05:57:51 PM

As long as I don't get choked or something

Statefarm · September 01, 2014, 05:59:31 PM

Quote from: Trojanlord on September 01, 2014, 03:14:28 PM

Yes. I absolutely would. Indeed that was the ending I was hoping Mas Effect was going to have.

This. I was expecting the reapers to win. Damn happy endings.

Juuzou · September 01, 2014, 06:01:18 PM

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True Turquoise · September 01, 2014, 06:02:23 PM

Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 01, 2014, 06:01:18 PM

You want to talk about happy endings? How about the failure that is Gears of War Judgement, where the campaign takes place in Halvo Bay, one of the hugest losses after Emergence Day. Tons of people were killed, survivors were scattered everywhere, and the whole city was destroyed.

Yet in Judgement, it is a happy ending and everyone is celebrating.

We don't talk about that game here, it doesn't exist.

Juuzou · September 01, 2014, 06:04:52 PM

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True Turquoise · September 01, 2014, 06:13:12 PM

Quote from: Lady Noelle on September 01, 2014, 06:04:52 PM

Damn right. Rod Ferusson and Black Tusk Studios better fix the series.

I wouldn't mind a Pendulum Wars game..

Sprungli · September 01, 2014, 06:15:32 PM

I played Halo Reach didn't I?

I love the AI/story completely destroying me and situations were you can't win

MattyFez · September 01, 2014, 06:20:40 PM

It would be interesting to play a game where you're the losing side, but I wouldn't want my final defeat to seem like some scripted event. It needs to be spectacular.

Mr. Psychologist · September 01, 2014, 07:11:56 PM

Quote from: MattyFez on September 01, 2014, 06:20:40 PM

It would be interesting to play a game where you're the losing side, but I wouldn't want my final defeat to seem like some scripted event. It needs to be spectacular.

A WW2 game where you play as the Germans would fill that role <.<

It'd never get made in a hundred years though, can you imagine the unholy supernova of butthurt from every idiot on the planet? A game where you play as a nazi and kill Yanks/Commies/Britbongs. I'm pretty sure it would give peter hitchens a heart attack >.>

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Bajir · September 01, 2014, 07:37:19 PM

If the gameplay is fun, yeah.

Super Irish · September 01, 2014, 07:41:49 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 01, 2014, 07:11:56 PM

A WW2 game where you play as the Germans would fill that role <.<

It'd never get made in a hundred years though, can you imagine the unholy supernova of butthurt from every idiot on the planet? A game where you play as a nazi and kill Yanks/Commies/Britbongs. I'm pretty sure it would give peter hitchens a heart attack >.>

Meh.

The Russians have been fine with 'Merica making them the villains since the cold war. I think. Plus, on the multiplayer side of games we've been shooting 'Mericans and 'Brituns since Call of Duty (and I'm sure before that too)

China...not as much. BF4's things to do with China made them ban it, but they removed it later.

DAS B00T x2 · September 01, 2014, 07:42:25 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 01, 2014, 07:11:56 PM

A WW2 game where you play as the Germans would fill that role <.<

It'd never get made in a hundred years though, can you imagine the unholy supernova of butthurt from every idiot on the planet? A game where you play as a nazi and kill Yanks/Commies/Britbongs. I'm pretty sure it would give peter hitchens a heart attack >.>

A game detailing the maneuvers of the 12th Army at Halbe would be pretty fucking awesome. The Heer had to not only hold back a horde of Russians on approach to Berlin but also decided to break through the surrounding forces to get soldiers and civilians to the Elbe to surrender to the Americans. The reports of infighting between them and Waffen SS troops could make for some interesting levels too.

But no, we can't ever show the Wehrmacht as human.

big sponge · September 01, 2014, 08:29:43 PM

I played Halo Reach didn't I?

big sponge · September 01, 2014, 08:31:36 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on September 01, 2014, 07:11:56 PM

A WW2 game where you play as the Germans would fill that role <.<

It'd never get made in a hundred years though, can you imagine the unholy supernova of butthurt from every idiot on the planet? A game where you play as a nazi and kill Yanks/Commies/Britbongs. I'm pretty sure it would give peter hitchens a heart attack >.>

Company of heroes had like 3 German campaigns and I think Brothers in Arms 2 had a German campaign too.

DAS B00T x2 · September 01, 2014, 08:40:32 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 01, 2014, 08:31:36 PM

Company of heroes had like 3 German campaigns and I think Brothers in Arms 2 had a German campaign too.

Is it bad that I cried at the ending of the Tiger Ace missions?

A Cheese Potato · September 03, 2014, 10:12:53 PM

YouTube

I'm not allowed to just post a video with no text why cheat why

Korra · September 03, 2014, 10:37:27 PM

Well in Brothers' In Arms: Hell's Highway you participate in Operation: Market Garden and that operation was an utter failure.