Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

This is such a bad opinion.
Pre-TU was broken as fuck and filled with complete bullshit. The TU made Reach somewhat good.

Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

What was so bad about 343's update? They fixed Bungie's stupidity and made it playable.

Yes, i enjoyed Reach the most.

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 06:39:51 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 05:51:04 PM

Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

This is such a bad opinion.
Pre-TU was broken as fuck and filled with complete bullshit. The TU made Reach somewhat good.

Adapt.

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on June 03, 2015, 06:47:41 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 05:51:04 PM

Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

What was so bad about 343's update? They fixed Bungie's stupidity and made it playable.

They butchered custom games and zombies <_<

What did they do to butcher custom games and zombies in Reacharound?

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 11:02:28 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 03, 2015, 09:45:03 AM

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 06:39:51 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 05:51:04 PM

Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

This is such a bad opinion.
Pre-TU was broken as fuck and filled with complete bullshit. The TU made Reach somewhat good.

Adapt.

Shouldn't have to adapt to bullshit

Beyond Armerlawk and Bloom, what was really that bad?
Bloom itself isn't even an issue if you don't spray and pray like a twelve year old.

Bloom is bad because it punished good players with fast shots who would have demolished others 1v1 in the previous game. It was a random accuracy mechanic that only served to dumb down the gameplay and bridge the gap between good and bad players

Bloom actually made the 'MLG' people calm the fuck down and actually get skill in their shooting m8 

Not just RATATATARATARATRATARATARATARTARARATARATARRTARATAR ATARTARA NIGGA I JUST FUCKING 4-5/6 SHOTTED UR FKN ASS NIGAAAAAAA



desu.

Looks like I found the staff captain

Why do you guys always want old games

TU Reach kinda ruined it for me...

I actually enjoyed playing pre-TU Reach, I'm not sure what it was but the TU made it less fun to play personally

#iknowihavebadopinionsshush

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 11:20:12 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 03, 2015, 11:16:27 AM

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 11:02:28 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 03, 2015, 09:45:03 AM

Quote from: Lemön on June 03, 2015, 06:39:51 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 02, 2015, 05:51:04 PM

Pre-TU reach? Fuck Yeah.
Post-TU reach? Fuck No.

In the event of a port it'd be done by 343 of course, so naturally they'd have that abomination taped onto it so I think I'll just let Reach rest in piece in pieces on my shelf >.>

This is such a bad opinion.
Pre-TU was broken as fuck and filled with complete bullshit. The TU made Reach somewhat good.

Adapt.

Shouldn't have to adapt to bullshit

Beyond Armerlawk and Bloom, what was really that bad?
Bloom itself isn't even an issue if you don't spray and pray like a twelve year old.

Problems with Reach:
Bloom
Armour Lock
Active camo
Sword block
No bleedthrough
Paper vehicles (wasn't changed, still a problem)
Health/shields were tied to vehicle damage (wasn't changed, still a problem)

TU Reach is objectively better, sorry.

Bloom is a non-issue though, weapons shouldn't be perfectly accurate when you are going full retard with them.

Active Camo was in previous halos, the invisibility it offered in reach was pisspoor which left radar jamming as the only decent bit about it. Not exactly a big issue.

Sword block is fair enough but I think it was fine, rather than the sword being a 10 kill grapetrain it could be checked.

Bleedthrough is ehh, again I don't really mind it but I do find it generally annoying to do X amount of damage to a shield and not affect the health so fair enough >.>

Paper vehicles, vaguely. I blame the DMR for that though, that fucking rifle ruined BTB <_<

Vehicle/Health tie in is a vaguer one, it's a bit stupid but at the same time combat vehicles were normally a one way ticket and the warthog was a death sentence <.<

It wasn't perfect, but it was fun. The TU took that away.

Weapons shouldn't be massively inaccurate either. Bloom isn't inherently bad, but how much Reach had was ridiculous.

I know camo was in previous Halos. Difference is that it was bullshit in Reach because of how fucking long it lasted.

Sword block is objectively bullshit. It's a power weapon.
If you're dumb enough to get close then your death is your own fault.

TU fixed these, which is why it's actually somewhat decent.

Bloom is a non-issue though, weapons shouldn't be perfectly accurate when you are going full retard with them.

It still shouldn't be completely random. The way Bungie did it is retarded. It should have been like the SMG where the circle traveled up your screen or like the semi's in CoD. In CoD when you fire something like an FAL you see the circle bouncing around your screen instead of it staying still like in Reach. With the why it is in CoD you have an idea of where your shots are landing. In Reach on the other hand since it stays in the same place you have no idea where you are hitting.

Sword block is fair enough but I think it was fine, rather than the sword being a 10 kill grapetrain it could be checked.

The same thing can be said about the shotgun which doesn't have a counter to it. Since that thing has around two dozen rounds which can be one hit kills should that have the same type of counter like what the sword has? After all that can be a 24 kill "grapetrain". The energy sword is the only power weapon in the game to have a counter to it. The only thing sword block did was destroy the weapon. It makes using it pointless when the person can simply block it and blast you with the shotgun. 

Paper vehicles, vaguely. I blame the DMR for that though, that fucking rifle ruined BTB <_<

Even without the DMR the vehicles health is still shit.

It wasn't perfect, but it was fun. The TU took that away.

No, it made the game playable. What isn't fun is having someone enter armor lock and there's no counter at all to it. Waiting for the person to come out is a not a counter. A counter would be what 343 did to it.

It wasn't that bad as long as you enjoyed matchmaking. I got to Nova just playing with my friends in team games.

There was just something about being that specific rank that annoyed me to no end. I can't put my finger on it. And of course, I did enjoy Matchmaking, but I generally didn't play in big parties, and at Warrant Officer, it felt like I was being put into obscenely unbalanced Matches, although that could've just been me initially sucking at Online to begin with.

Come to think about it, there were actually several negative aspects of Reach that I didn't like. Things like the DMR/Sniper Rifle being anti-vehicle weapons made it difficult to get kills as a driver of even a Tank. The Active Camo was absolutely useless because the radar jammer would alert anybody with remote levels of Situational awareness, on top of being extremely sensitive to movement, despite it being visible to a sharp eye at rest anyway. The Banshee was also ridiculously unbalanced, as the Fuel Rod should at least be a 2sk, and Strafing shouldn't automatically disengage tracking Weapons like the Plasma/Rocket Launcher. Jump Height and base running speed were also serious inhibiting factors in objective gametypes on larger maps. Aside from these issues, I was a big fan of Reach's Multiplayer.