kinda with turkey tbh

i really wish people would stop blowing marty

So let's summarize. Bungie asked Marty to make the series's soundtrack all at once instead of individually. Marty did that, and then got pissy when they wouldn't release it (presumably because he wanted that sweet profit-sharing). And then when Activison/Bungie swapped some trailer music, Marty responded in some disruptive way (of which I've seen no description) that was apparently bad enough to get him suspended, and then when he came back his co-workers claimed he was disruptive and unhelpful, and we also know the game's release date was pushed back because Marty refused to finish sound effect work until the game was completely finished.

I'm not a fan of Bungie's new model, but Marty had a really good thing going and he just kind of pissed it away. It really doesn't seem like anyone was out to get him.

As I understand it, Marty previously had a say in Bungie's promotional trailers, at least since Reach. They suspiciously asked him to make music for stuff that doesn't technically exist yet, and then didn't even use that music, to his objections.

Marty had particularly high requirements for audio that involved many (for a video game) specific changes depending on the player's progress through the level. It's difficult to sync that up when a level isn't even done yet.

And then after usurping responsibilities that he's had for years, they try to cheat him out of assets to which he's legally entitled.

I'm not saying that he was completely in the right, because it does sound like he possibly could have handled it better (and if you're looking for evidence of Bungie's claim that his performance took a toll, just look at Dinklage's performance--that fell under Marty's responsibilities, too). But breaking the law because a longtime employee felt third-wheeled and thus burned a bridge is worse.

Marty holds himself to a high expectation because he knows the music he producing is great.

Lol.

Quote from: Septy on September 05, 2015, 06:26:25 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on September 05, 2015, 06:14:23 PM

So let's summarize. Bungie asked Marty to make the series's soundtrack all at once instead of individually. Marty did that, and then got pissy when they wouldn't release it (presumably because he wanted that sweet profit-sharing). And then when Activison/Bungie swapped some trailer music, Marty responded in some disruptive way (of which I've seen no description) that was apparently bad enough to get him suspended, and then when he came back his co-workers claimed he was disruptive and unhelpful, and we also know the game's release date was pushed back because Marty refused to finish sound effect work until the game was completely finished.

I'm not a fan of Bungie's new model, but Marty had a really good thing going and he just kind of pissed it away. It really doesn't seem like anyone was out to get him.

Marty holds himself to a high expectation because he knows the music he producing is great. So he's going to be upset when he creates 10 years worth of music and then it is thrown out the window and replaced by a corporation.

It was one trailer. His work will still be present in the entire Destiny series. Nothing was thrown out the window, they probably just swapped the song with something more like pop rock to appeal to new fans.

I'm not anti-Marty at all, but I think people are seeing drama where there is very little.

It was the music they used to reveal destiny at e3.



If you were Marty and Microsoft decided to throw in their own music instead of the music you created specifically for the trailer which is a very important one, then you would be pissed as hell. What if it happened to the Halo 3 reveal, it would would have been very different.

A little off topic, but I'd like to play a game soon that doesn't disappoint me.

If you were Marty and Microsoft decided to throw in their own music instead of the music you created specifically for the trailer which is a very important one, then you would be pissed as hell.

Well no, I wouldn't, because they would be writing my paychecks and are ultimately in charge of any content that is put out.

Pretty interesting that Joe Staten left a month after Activision got heavily involved in the story side of things. I think this all but confirms the fact that Activision is responsible for the current "story" in Destiny and Joe left the company due to the mutilation of his baby.

Joe and Marty seem to be close too, as Marty not only advertised the book on Twitter, but Mart has been sending his followers there.

Seriously Joe, join Highwire Games, you two can do some amazing stuff together

#HighwireGamesForHalo6 (?)

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Quote from: LC on September 05, 2015, 12:04:30 AM

Pretty interesting that Joe Staten left a month after Activision got heavily involved in the story side of things. I think this all but confirms the fact that Activision is responsible for the current "story" in Destiny and Joe left the company due to the mutilation of his baby.

Joe and Marty seem to be close too, as Marty not only advertised the book on Twitter, but Mart has been sending his followers there.

Seriously Joe, join Highwire Games, you two can do some amazing stuff together

Last I heard Joe was happy with his position as the creative director for Microsofts entertainment division.

He's working on some of the exclusives there I believe.