Why is Sep7agon so anti-modding?

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Because as an example MS doesn't give two shits to have DRM armor in a 10 year old video game accessible, and I'm someone who likes to earn armor.
You like to acquire armor, you don't like to earn armor.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Because as an example MS doesn't give two shits to have DRM armor in a 10 year old video game accessible, and I'm someone who likes to earn armor.
You like to acquire armor, you don't like to earn armor.

Not true. I do like to earn armor, it gives me incentive to play more. I legitimately earned my Recon via the Vidmasters on my XBL account. Check back my old gamertag Decimator Omega on B.net if you think I'm full of it. 343 did not give me my Recon.

It would have been nice to earn Bungie Body, but that's the problem. There's a TSA system in the game's code that won't allow you to have said armor, and the completion side in me goes crazy for that, because I have all the Elite Armor, legit, but not all the Spartan armor. Even though the Bungie body was for Employees only, I still can't say I have all the Spartan armor because I don't. So the only way to have it is to null out the TSA system all together. This in return allows all profiles to have all armor, because the code isn't active.

That and it also sucks that the only achievement I need to have all the achievements in Halo 3 is 2 for 1. Nobody plays Lone Wolves anymore, and if they do, its so rare to get a map with the Spartan Laser now.

If Microsoft gave us a reason to give Halo 3 multiplayer replay value for example, they could make the Bungie Body earnable since there's no code to unlock it via Achievement.

Now, I am well aware there was a Starkathon contest back in mid 2009, my Xbox red ringed and I didn't even have the chance to enter in that because I didn't have the money for another Xbox at the time let alone any friends to do the challenge, but I can assure you that if my Xbox didn't red ring, I can guarantee you that Pope Rex would not have won and I would have earned my flames.
Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 03:15:03 PM by Deci


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Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.


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Also, there are benefits to having LiNK on an RGH console. You don't need to pay for LiNK where as for Live you do, if more people dropped Live and went to an RGH route, LiNK would be more populated.

Thing is LiNK itself requires an RGH/Jtag. I wish non RGH users could have it. Its a great alternative to Xbox Live

I could get on XBL with a stealth server, but its not worth the risk. LiNK has its own system in place to weed out cheaters in a public room, so if you wanna do modded lobbies or games, it has to be in a private room.

Hardly anyone plays Halo 3 on LiNK, Halo Reach and COD are more populated.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.


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Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man


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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot


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Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot

Enlist in the army if you're a real patriot, not challenge someone to a 1v1 in a fucking video game like a coward.


 
 
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So if its only Verbatim, why don't others partake in discussions of mods or have threads of there own?
There's a difference between being "anti-modding" and just not really caring much. I don't have anything against modding at all and did some of it myself way back in the day, but I don't think anyone here is really interested. Unless there's some really major mod being released, I don't think you'll find many people who will care about RGH consoles and such. Maybe an Xbox One, but not a console as old as the 360.


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So if its only Verbatim, why don't others partake in discussions of mods or have threads of there own?
There's a difference between being "anti-modding" and just not really caring much. I don't have anything against modding at all and did some of it myself way back in the day, but I don't think anyone here is really interested. Unless there's some really major mod being released, I don't think you'll find many people who will care about RGH consoles and such. Maybe an Xbox One, but not a console as old as the 360.

Well as of right now there isn't really any support for Xbox One heavy modding, at least that I'm aware of, and the 360 is still an active console.

But I understand.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot

Enlist in the army if you're a real patriot, not challenge someone to a 1v1 in a fucking video game like a coward.
You have done neither, so what does that make you?


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Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot

Enlist in the army if you're a real patriot, not challenge someone to a 1v1 in a fucking video game like a coward.
You have done neither, so what does that make you?

A typical American consumer.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot

Enlist in the army if you're a real patriot, not challenge someone to a 1v1 in a fucking video game like a coward.
You have done neither, so what does that make you?

A typical American consumer.
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Deci will you face me like a man? Or perish like the dog you are

1v1 on Vadum. Oh that's right you don't have an RGH console.
I see you're still terrified of me. What a shame.

Modify your console if you wanna 1v1 me, or get a modded one. Fuck paying for XBL man
After trump gets you a job (out of the kindness of his heart) this is how you repay America?

1v1 me if you're a real patriot

Enlist in the army if you're a real patriot, not challenge someone to a 1v1 in a fucking video game like a coward.
You have done neither, so what does that make you?

A typical American consumer.
absolutrly based

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You have to understand the difference between "hating" mods, and people just not talking about them.

For example, fans of Bethesda games typically have the motto "If it don't work, or it's not there, mod it". The Nexus alone has literally millions of mods for the fairly recent (>2000) Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.

I play Battlefront II (the classic one) and Deus Ex with texture remastering/"HD" mods because straining my eyes blasting what I think is a green dinosaur against similarly green jungle on the blurry moon of somewhere for the glory of the Republic or staring at a polygonal cyborg potato-faces for several hours having conversations with them about the dystopia we live in is not my idea of relaxing entertainment. But I don't have to mention it or link to the mods, there's already hundreds of dedicated places for that.

For hardware modding like chipping consoles (for all I'm aware of is to play pirated games or cheat) or re-skinning your console into GLADOS, most of us don't go past spray painting a controller or putting stickers on the side.

I will say though, if you and Chally want to 1v1 on Halo again, but neither of you can be arsed to do it on a dusty '360, there is Eldorito for PC. Why make it so hard going to arrange, when you can make it easy?
Last Edit: March 09, 2018, 11:25:10 PM by Doug


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You have to understand the difference between "hating" mods, and people just not talking about them.

For example, fans of Bethesda games typically have the motto "If it don't work, or it's not there, mod it". The Nexus alone has literally millions of mods for the fairly recent (>2000) Fallout and Elder Scrolls games.

I play Battlefront II (the classic one) and Deus Ex with texture remastering/"HD" mods because straining my eyes blasting what I think is a green dinosaur against similarly green jungle on the blurry moon of somewhere for the glory of the Republic or staring at a polygonal cyborg potato-faces for several hours having conversations with them about the dystopia we live in is not my idea of relaxing entertainment. But I don't have to mention it or link to the mods, there's already hundreds of dedicated places for that.

For hardware modding like chipping consoles (for all I'm aware of is to play pirated games or cheat) or re-skinning your console into GLADOS, most of us don't go past spray painting a controller or putting stickers on the side.

I will say though, if you and Chally want to 1v1 on Halo again, but neither of you can be arsed to do it on a dusty '360, there is Eldorito for PC. Why make it so hard going to arrange, when you can make it easy?

Chally's PC can't run that shit lol


 
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Chally's PC can't run for shit, that's why he plays Halo 3 on his RGH console, online via system link tunneling with other RGH users


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Chally is a coward, he won't 1v1 anyone.


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Chally is a coward, he won't 1v1 anyone.

And when he does he hogs all the power weapons and hides like a little bitch.

I may be shit at the game but I at least had the balls to charge towards him.


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You've probably already answered this but what's your opinion on mods that add in/ enable content that was intended for the base game but cut due to issues like time constraints?
Depends on the case, but with KOTOR 2 specifically (which seems to be the most commonly cited case), I wouldn't care if you decided to go ahead and restore the cut content.

I personally wouldn't. If it's so important for me to experience it in some way, I would opt instead to watch clips of the restored content on YouTube.

Chris Avellone, the game's lead designer, doesn't point the finger at LucasArts for having his team at Obsidian rush the game out. He blames the team for wasting too much time fiddling around with relatively insignificant shit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-07-31-fear-is-the-path-to-the-dark-side
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But however valiant the team's efforts, Knights of the Old Republic 2 would not be properly finished - "broken", the tea-snip-

Therefore, the way I see it, the game deserves to be unfinished. I'm not into giving developers a pass for failing to be punctual and making good use of their development time, and since he's the LEAD designer, I'm taking his word over anyone else's.

Had LucasArts been entirely to blame for the game's unfinished state, I might have been more sympathetic.
That's fair, and I didn't actually know that about KOTOR2 - that's a pretty interesting read.

Also, patching stuff back then wasn't really possible due to bandwidth restrictions/ file size limitations and so forth. It's a lot more common now with more and more games going for a year + of title update support, so you tend to see stuff that was probably cut from the base game included down the line in official postlaunch support.


 
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For real though other than Verb I can't think of anyone else on this forum who is explicitly anti-modding.

Still sucks that people don't give a shit here though. There's some cool shit with modding.


 
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Chally is a coward, he won't 1v1 anyone.

And when he does he hogs all the power weapons and hides like a little bitch.

I may be shit at the game but I at least had the balls to charge towards him.

im not so sure... i think you're going to have to refresh my memory by reuploading the video.


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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For real though other than Verb I can't think of anyone else on this forum who is explicitly anti-modding.

Still sucks that people don't give a shit here though. There's some cool shit with modding.
idk man

as soon as I have the cash spare I'm buying Fallout 4 and Skyrim SSE so I can start creating my own weapon mods