Why is Red Dead Redemption 2 so vile?

 
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Because these are things that make sense in an open world game that gives you player choice?

You can kill pretty much anybody in this game. Why would they prohibit you just because it's a woman or beggar? They're not actively encouraging it and you get punished for doing it so I don't see how you can put that on the developers.

Also that pedo thing was clearly a moral choice. They're not encouraging the player to leave the kid and you can clearly tell the right thing to do is to free the kid.

Just because some bad choices exist in the game doesn't mean the developers condone them. It's all about player choice. Imagine a game where the only thing you're allowed to do is pet kittens and feed the homeless.

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lmao stfu you fucking woman

 
 
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Quote from: DGTF on December 09, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
Because these are things that make sense in an open world game that gives you player choice?

You can kill pretty much anybody in this game. Why would they prohibit you just because it's a woman or beggar? They're not actively encouraging it and you get punished for doing it so I don't see how you can put that on the developers.

Also that pedo thing was clearly a moral choice. They're not encouraging the player to leave the kid and you can clearly tell the right thing to do is to free the kid.

Just because some bad choices exist in the game doesn't mean the developers condone them. It's all about player choice. Imagine a game where the only thing you're allowed to do is pet kittens and feed the homeless.
the question being asked is why would anyone want to play a game with these moral choices in the first place

what is gained from it

 
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Quote from: challengerX on December 09, 2018, 03:15:00 PM
There’s no reason for this heinous shit to be in games.

Why not
Only mom approved content should be allowed in games now?

 
 
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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
None of that shit is new to this game bar the scripted sequences. Im tasting the bait arent i?

 
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If you know, you know.
Somewhat complicated.

Remember Fallout 3 had kids but you could not kill them? Felt a little silly to have the game tell you "Sorry, you can't do that."
Takes you out of the experience.

So how do you have a consistent world while not compromising on amount of content?

 
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as long as it's not forced in any way or even really encouraged I don't think it's the worst because... well I don't have to do it. At least it's not the mandatory torture mission in GTAV which is just awful.

 
 
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valve didn't want child-killing in half-life 2, so the lack of children was woven into the plot, so it's not like there are no creative solutions to these problems

that said, i can't say i personally have an issue with it, at least no more than i have with any other rockstar game

i've already decided years and years ago that i'm not terribly interested in games like grand theft auto, or saint's row, where the whole appeal is to be a murderer or a raving lunatic, because it's always been pretty senseless to me and i never understood how people were able to derive any sort of entertainment out of it

still, it's easy enough for me to just not play those games, because they're not for me, but if anyone looks at a game like this and says "this should not exist," i can totally understand why they would feel that way and there's no real argument against it

i choose to have that attitude about sexual content more than i do with violent content
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You can't kill children. There's just a glitch where you throw dynamite at those ones in the alleyway and they disappear, I think.

 
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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Quote from: Verbatim on December 09, 2018, 04:58:01 PM
valve didn't want child-killing in half-life 2, so the lack of children was woven into the plot, so it's not like there are no creative solutions to these problems
The suppression field is great world building but i dont think thats entirely the reason there arent any kids.

 
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If you know, you know.
I remember playing San Andreas and wishing there were animals around. Cats or dogs around town for example. Not for the purpose of additional target practice, but to make the faux-LA feel more alive.

Honestly though, I would not care about a bunch of the details in RDR. I would play the main story, maybe poke around for some glitches and then move on.
I have nothing against having these sort of thing in games or other devs choosing to omit them. Did R* go too far with some of these? Probably. Would someone (some dev) have done this eventually? Sure. As tech gets better, they want to add more details and features.

 
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You gotta have more faith.

 
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Is this thread satire?

 
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Quote from: Mint on December 13, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Is this thread satire?

It's Challenger

 
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Quote from: challengerX on December 14, 2018, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Mint on December 13, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Is this thread satire?
Of course the edgy school shooter thinks there’s nothing wrong with the game.
So this is satire?

 
 
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Quote from: Mint on December 15, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: challengerX on December 14, 2018, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Mint on December 13, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Is this thread satire?
Of course the edgy school shooter thinks there’s nothing wrong with the game.
So this is satire?
the game is rated M so you're not old enough to play it anyway

 
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Quote from: Verbatim on December 15, 2018, 11:44:31 AM
Quote from: Mint on December 15, 2018, 11:40:56 AM
Quote from: challengerX on December 14, 2018, 12:38:13 PM
Quote from: Mint on December 13, 2018, 07:15:32 PM
Is this thread satire?
Of course the edgy school shooter thinks there’s nothing wrong with the game.
So this is satire?
the game is rated M so you're not old enough to play it anyway
This is definitely satire.