What new gameplay?

Is calling 343 "3v4" a new cool thing to do or something? I don't get it.

It's because the MCC matchmaking still displaces team mates and creates uneven teams.

I'd rather watch a good player in a gameplay reveal than a player who sucks ass at the game

Why does it even matter?

"Oh new gameplay of the next Halo? I better watch it to see what the new sandbox will be like"

*2 minutes later*

"Well, it's good to know the only weapons in the game are the BR and Sniper Rifle."

If only 2 weapons are worth a piss then that is not the competitive communities fault, that's the developers, seeing as they you know, they are the ones that fucked up the balance.  Reach and Halo 4 were both not catered to the competitive community and the DMR/Br + power weapons dominated everything in the sandbox (343 are more competent in sandbox balancing than Bungie so Halo 4's sandbox was better balanced, with Halo 5 being even more so).

Quote from: Cocos on May 12, 2015, 08:55:17 PM

-What new footage?
-Putting MLG in quotes doesn't make any sense: they were/are pros in MLG circuits.
-Considering how quickly H4 and Reach died pandering to casuul vermin, I don't blame them for shifting their focus towards advertising to eSports kids.
-Git gud, scroob

Jesus christ

Halo, shifting to the esports crowd

what a fucking way to go...

you know the "esports crowd" is the reason xbox live/halo is even a thing, right?

Quote from: Arm The Mob on May 12, 2015, 10:09:01 PM

Quote from: Cocos on May 12, 2015, 08:55:17 PM

-What new footage?
-Putting MLG in quotes doesn't make any sense: they were/are pros in MLG circuits.
-Considering how quickly H4 and Reach died pandering to casuul vermin, I don't blame them for shifting their focus towards advertising to eSports kids.
-Git gud, scroob

Jesus christ

Halo, shifting to the esports crowd

what a fucking way to go...

you know the "esports crowd" is the reason xbox live/halo is even a thing, right?

For Xbox Live being a thing that was because of Halo 2, not the "esports crowd". Then for Halo being a thing that is more because of your causal players or non competitive ones. There's more social and non-competitive playlists in Halo than what there are for competitive ones. There's more causal players than what there are of MLG players or whatever gaming event players.   

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on May 14, 2015, 06:02:08 AM

Quote from: Azumarill on May 12, 2015, 10:44:32 PM

Quote from: Arm The Mob on May 12, 2015, 10:09:01 PM

Quote from: Cocos on May 12, 2015, 08:55:17 PM

-What new footage?
-Putting MLG in quotes doesn't make any sense: they were/are pros in MLG circuits.
-Considering how quickly H4 and Reach died pandering to casuul vermin, I don't blame them for shifting their focus towards advertising to eSports kids.
-Git gud, scroob

Jesus christ

Halo, shifting to the esports crowd

what a fucking way to go...

you know the "esports crowd" is the reason xbox live/halo is even a thing, right?

For Xbox Live being a thing that was because of Halo 2, not the "esports crowd". Then for Halo being a thing that is more because of your causal players or non competitive ones. There's more social and non-competitive playlists in Halo than what there are for competitive ones. There's more causal players than what there are of MLG players or whatever gaming event players.

the MLG/competitive players were the only ones who played CE in any sort of organized way, and they got bungie's attention and made halo 2 what it was.

So then if the MLG/competitive players were responsible for what Halo 2 ended up being I say Bungie did a bad decision by listening to them. We went from Halo CE which has a useful weapon sandbox to a dumbed down game that has a shitty weapon sandbox which nearly plays for you due to the massive aim assist. Good job Bungie. 

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

I guess its because of the kids in Xbox Live trying to be cool and calling themselves MLG or something. You know, the more vocal minority scenario.

Quote from: Korra Valentine on May 14, 2015, 08:54:39 PM

Quote from: PSU on May 14, 2015, 11:39:40 AM

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

You know, the more vocal minority scenario.

You mean the 12 year olds?

Exactly.

Quote from: Korra Valentine on May 14, 2015, 10:17:28 PM

Quote from: Rocketman287 on May 14, 2015, 10:16:55 PM

Quote from: Korra Valentine on May 14, 2015, 08:54:39 PM

Quote from: PSU on May 14, 2015, 11:39:40 AM

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

You know, the more vocal minority scenario.

You mean the 12 year olds?

Exactly.

mhmm

So...I'm right?

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

It's not the competitive players, it's the idiots who insist that the game has to be played their way and sneer at the other, probably less skilled players who may not agree with them. The kind that claim that those unskilled players don't know what is 'best' for the game and shouldn't have their opinions considered.

Reference the Reach subforum, shortly after the game came out.

Quote from: PSU on May 14, 2015, 11:39:40 AM

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

It's not the competitive players, it's the idiots who insist that the game has to be played their way and sneer at the other, probably less skilled players who may not agree with them. The kind that claim that those unskilled players don't know what is 'best' for the game and shouldn't have their opinions considered.

Reference the Reach subforum, shortly after the game came out.

To be fair, 90% of the mouthbreathing idiots who used the Reach forum really didn't have valid opinions due to being retarded.

Quote from: Azumarill on May 15, 2015, 12:50:01 AM

Quote from: Plotmaster on May 14, 2015, 10:32:37 PM

Quote from: PSU on May 14, 2015, 11:39:40 AM

I will never understand the unreasonable hate that the competitive community gets.

It's not the competitive players, it's the idiots who insist that the game has to be played their way and sneer at the other, probably less skilled players who may not agree with them. The kind that claim that those unskilled players don't know what is 'best' for the game and shouldn't have their opinions considered.

Reference the Reach subforum, shortly after the game came out.

To be fair, 90% of the mouthbreathing idiots who used the Reach forum really didn't have valid opinions due to being retarded.

Well, yeah, but the bunch of jerks making multiple threads a day detailing what Halo 'should' be (and back it up with their twelve-digit k/d ratio) are the ones I'm focused on.

Has it occurred to you that maybe they were right? The gloating was a bit much, but the devs didn't listen to the competitive community in Reach and H4 and look how that turned out.

Quote from: Azumarill on May 15, 2015, 01:10:13 AM

but the devs didn't listen to the competitive community in Reach and H4 and look how that turned out.but the devs didn't listen to the competitive community in Reach and H4 and look how that turned out.

343 did make stupid decisions in that game that should have been left in their heads but they did have a problem that Bungie didn't have. Due to Halo 2 and 3 being different than Reach you're going to have fans from both of those different games. So you're going to have to make a game that plays similar to both types to please both groups.

Or they could have just accepted reach as a shitty prequel and not base their game off it's shitty features.  Including those features in more games just further in-grains them in the series.