Sports games shouldn't exist
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 08, 2014, 06:34:17 AMSports games shouldn't existWhy?
Quote from: Zizzletoe on December 09, 2014, 05:21:03 PMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 08, 2014, 06:34:17 AMSports games shouldn't existWhy?Because
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 09, 2014, 05:21:19 PMQuote from: Zizzletoe on December 09, 2014, 05:21:03 PMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 08, 2014, 06:34:17 AMSports games shouldn't existWhy?BecauseYou shouldn't exist.
I really don't have the will nor the time to list all the changes.
But to your second post, Thats like saying COD and Battlefield are the same because they are both war shooting games.
If you play FIFA and then play PES, and you don't notice a difference, you need your eyes checked.
After I read the OP, I was like, "eh, he probably took that rant from AVGN or something."I was extremely satisfied to have discovered that I was right.
To anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.
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Quote from: PSU on December 09, 2014, 07:40:32 PM^How about instead of relying on people to post for you you actually back up your statements? If you have the time to post multiple times on a forum site then I think you have the time to make a post at max that takes 5 minutes. For your thing about NBA2k playing differently than NBA Live. What about them makes them play differently from each other? That's another question you avoided. Also you're backing up a post that's bascilly saying paying $65 a year for these games is justified because the engine gets slightly changed in each game which is the only change he listed in his post.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Translation: "Slight engine updates and a new graphics paint job is totally worth £50 each year".
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 06:37:17 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Translation: "Slight engine updates and a new graphics paint job is totally worth £50 each year".Yep because to many people it is.
Quote from: PSU on December 10, 2014, 09:57:46 AMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 06:37:17 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Translation: "Slight engine updates and a new graphics paint job is totally worth £50 each year".Yep because to many people it is.Yeah, and those people are idiots.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.So basically you're saying a graphics change and a slight engine update justifies the $65 every year and that somehow prevents it from being reskins? How exactly does changing the movements to look more realistic and making goalkeeping look more like goalkeeping prevent this game from being a reskin of the previous game which is a reskin of the previous game? You're still doing the same old shit you were doing in the previous game. You're running across the same old field kicking a ball to one of the ends. Changing the engine isn't going to change that. Your Fifa game isn't like Halo where the story changes, we get new maps which play differently and new vehicles that act differently. You're playing a sports game where the only change is to the engine, the graphics, the players and the number in the title.
Quote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Paying $65 for improved goalkeeping...Damn, that's some innovative shit right there.
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 06:37:17 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Translation: "Slight engine updates and a new graphics paint job is totally worth £50 each year".You just described most major franchises
Quote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:30:19 AMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 06:37:17 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 09, 2014, 05:01:21 PMTo anyone that says Fifas are just reskins, you know nothing. Go play the last 10 and fucking tell me they are the same, the difference from 10 onwards is especially large as that was when the player impact engine came into play, and 12 completely demolished the old movement system, 13 expanded on everything, 14 finally made everything far more fluid and natural, adding an unpredictability and greater freedom to improvise, and 15 has introduced emotion, made goalkeeping actually like goalkeeping and improved ball movement and physics no end.Translation: "Slight engine updates and a new graphics paint job is totally worth £50 each year".You just described most major franchisesThat's not my point.Fifa is the same shit year in year out, but with slight engine changes and a shiny lick of paint every year.All of which can be done through patches instead of charging £50 a year in typical EA fashion.
Nobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth it
Quote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:46:37 AMNobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth itAaaannnnd that's why the industry is like it is.People like you lap up the newest reskin of a franchise every year.If people were clever enough to stop buying copy/paste rehashes every year, then we'd get something new and different enough to warrant a £50 price tag.
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 11:50:54 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:46:37 AMNobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth itAaaannnnd that's why the industry is like it is.People like you lap up the newest reskin of a franchise every year.If people were clever enough to stop buying copy/paste rehashes every year, then we'd get something new and different enough to warrant a £50 price tag.But its worth every penny of $60 to me...Just because you feel differently doesn't make me wrong.
Quote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 11:50:54 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:46:37 AMNobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth itAaaannnnd that's why the industry is like it is.People like you lap up the newest reskin of a franchise every year.If people were clever enough to stop buying copy/paste rehashes every year, then we'd get something new and different enough to warrant a £50 price tag.Just because I buy Fifa doesn't mean I don't buy the games you would never, like Wolfenstein, Shadow of Mordor, Sunset Overdrive, fantastic games that are driving the industry
doesn't mean I don't buy the games you would never
Quote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 02:06:49 PMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 11:50:54 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:46:37 AMNobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth itAaaannnnd that's why the industry is like it is.People like you lap up the newest reskin of a franchise every year.If people were clever enough to stop buying copy/paste rehashes every year, then we'd get something new and different enough to warrant a £50 price tag.Just because I buy Fifa doesn't mean I don't buy the games you would never, like Wolfenstein, Shadow of Mordor, Sunset Overdrive, fantastic games that are driving the industryThat doesn't cancel out buying Fifa every year.EA don't give a fuck if you buy other games. They only care that you line their pockets with cash. You buying Fifa every year just tells EA that they can continue to sell the same game every year.Quotedoesn't mean I don't buy the games you would neverWhat?
You buying Fifa every year just tells EA that they can continue to sell the same game every year.
Quote from: BritishLemön on December 10, 2014, 02:11:40 PMQuote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 02:06:49 PMQuote from: ButtSlaveOfZenLemön on December 10, 2014, 11:50:54 AMQuote from: Sprungli on December 10, 2014, 11:46:37 AMNobody is forcing you to buy fifa, if you don't think £50 is worth it then don't buy fifa, simple. Meanwhile I think it is worth itAaaannnnd that's why the industry is like it is.People like you lap up the newest reskin of a franchise every year.If people were clever enough to stop buying copy/paste rehashes every year, then we'd get something new and different enough to warrant a £50 price tag.Just because I buy Fifa doesn't mean I don't buy the games you would never, like Wolfenstein, Shadow of Mordor, Sunset Overdrive, fantastic games that are driving the industryThat doesn't cancel out buying Fifa every year.EA don't give a fuck if you buy other games. They only care that you line their pockets with cash. You buying Fifa every year just tells EA that they can continue to sell the same game every year.Quotedoesn't mean I don't buy the games you would neverWhat?So tell me, which games have you bought recently?CoD?Mario?Or nothing at all, better to support the industry then to not at all