What SJW shit you think Bioware's Star Wars game is going to have?

Mattie G Indahouse · April 13, 2015, 07:02:35 PM

SJW shit as in things like that gay planet that adds nothing of value to TOR or that transgender character in Dragon Age. I'm thinking it's going to have something that involves Gamergate. Gay marriage was a big thing around the time it got added so to me that resulted in the gay planet being added to the game. The transgender character would be a LGBT thing. So to me Gamergate would be referenced because that's a thing with gaming now. By looking at TOR and Dragonage I think it is safe to say Bioware is going to have something that's an issue or from some type of movement.

Mr. Psychologist · April 13, 2015, 07:04:01 PM

I don't really mind bioware's diversity, it's kind of hammy and forced but it's a nice enough intention.

But for the love of god, they better not put otherkin in it.

Turkey · April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM

I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

Sandtrap · April 13, 2015, 07:05:37 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM

I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

But muh greeks.

Comet · April 13, 2015, 07:06:37 PM

pff who cares if they cant even write a decent ending anymore?

Turkey · April 13, 2015, 07:07:01 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 13, 2015, 07:05:37 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM
I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

But muh greeks.

Greeks weren't medieval Europeans, and they also kept adolescent boys as sex servants, so I don't know how progressive we can say they were.

DAS B00T x2 · April 13, 2015, 07:07:54 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 13, 2015, 07:05:37 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM
I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

But muh greeks.

>classical antiquity
>medieval
Pick one.
Living outside of the chantry's word was supposed to be like living in fear of the Spanish inquisition.

Sandtrap · April 13, 2015, 07:26:47 PM

Quote from: the boat ECKS two on April 13, 2015, 07:07:54 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 13, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM
I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

But muh greeks.
>classical antiquity
>medieval
Pick one.
Living outside of the chantry's word was supposed to be like living in fear of the Spanish inquisition.

I just realized. I played the first DA.

And then the series died for me.

You're trying to put out a fire by pissing on it. I've no idea what the series turned into beyond a couple hours put into DAII.

Turkey · April 13, 2015, 07:34:15 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 13, 2015, 07:26:47 PM

You're trying to put out a fire by pissing on it. I've no idea what the series turned into beyond a couple hours put into DAII.

Skip DA2. DA:I is stunning. As for progressive characters, there's a character whose entire story arc is that he's gay and his dad doesn't accept him, and another character who is a trans-man and that's basically the extent of his story, too.

RomanGladiator · April 13, 2015, 07:38:09 PM

Gay Stormtroopers.

Mmmmm Napalm · April 13, 2015, 07:47:37 PM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on April 13, 2015, 07:05:06 PM

I'm fine with it in Star Wars and Mass Effect. It just felt shoehorned and out of place in Dragon Age, having a medieval culture be far more sexually liberal than modern day.

I don't want any of it in Star Wars.
Star Wars has never been about contemporary social issues. It's always been rather disconnected from the real world. Which, to be honest, is part of the reason I like it. Everybody loves Star Wars; when I watch it I don't have to be overtly reminded of contemporary socio-political issues. If there's an option to have one's character be gay, fine. But under no circumstances do I want anything more explicit than a kiss, be it between gay people or a heterosexual couple. Sex has never been the focus of Star Wars, and if BioWare shoves their bullshit social ideology into it as clumsily as they usually do, then I will be very disappointed.

Verbatim · April 13, 2015, 07:57:47 PM

i think it would be pretty stupid to let this sort of thing bog down one's enjoyment of a game

Dan · April 13, 2015, 08:02:49 PM

They'll probably make it so that you can't fight the bad guys because that would be sithphobia.

Mmmmm Napalm · April 13, 2015, 08:07:28 PM

Quote from: Daniel on April 13, 2015, 08:02:49 PM

They'll probably make it so that you can't fight the bad guys because that would be sithphobia.

Don't forget speaking out the brutal murder of compassionate natives with a rich cultural history.

#HumanMalePrivilege

#savethetuskens

Seriously though, wouldn't be surprised if there's a scene where a character is shown that the Tuskens are really tolerant and a peaceful people, or some crap like that.

big sponge · April 13, 2015, 08:13:43 PM

A transsexual Human to Rhodian trans-xeno who believes that deep down inside he's really an Ewok.

Mmmmm Napalm · April 13, 2015, 08:24:21 PM

Quote from: LC on April 13, 2015, 08:13:43 PM

A transsexual Human to Rhodian trans-xeno who believes that deep down inside he's really an Ewok.

We do have a guy in the canon who has Rodian skin grafts now...

big sponge · April 13, 2015, 08:32:30 PM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on April 13, 2015, 08:24:21 PM

Quote from: LC on April 13, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
A transsexual Human to Rhodian trans-xeno who believes that deep down inside he's really an Ewok.

We do have a guy in the canon who has Rodian skin grafts now...

Wat

Tackel · April 13, 2015, 08:33:22 PM

Don't know, don't care. I just hope if they do end up doing it, "being gay" or "transexual" isn't all their character has to offer.

Raw Sugar · April 13, 2015, 08:37:48 PM

Quote from: LC on April 13, 2015, 08:13:43 PM

A transsexual Human to Rhodian trans-xeno who believes that deep down inside he's really an Ewok.

Mmmmm Napalm · April 13, 2015, 08:40:38 PM

Quote from: LC on April 13, 2015, 08:32:30 PM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on April 13, 2015, 08:24:21 PM
Quote from: LC on April 13, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
A transsexual Human to Rhodian trans-xeno who believes that deep down inside he's really an Ewok.

We do have a guy in the canon who has Rodian skin grafts now...

Wat

He's a scientist who works with genetic modification and stuff, and part of his research requires shipments of alien organs acquired through illegal means.

Naoto · April 13, 2015, 11:29:23 PM

Quote from: Tackelberry on April 13, 2015, 08:33:22 PM

Don't know, don't care. I just hope if they do end up doing it, "being gay" or "transexual" isn't all their character has to offer.

Pretty much this. I want diverse characters, but wish they'd stop shoehorning them in and making their sexuality/gender/race be the entirety of the characters personality.

Interesting flawed characters > pc lecturing 'safe' characters.
Shits just boring and try hard. I don't want my games to feel like they're trying to push an agenda on me. I want them to be interesting and entertaining.

More worried about Mass Effect than Star Wars tbh tho.

Verbatim · April 13, 2015, 11:35:35 PM

also

how do you know if a character was "shoe-horned in" or not?
if they bring up their sexuality/etc. excessively? i mean, i can see how that would be annoying, but i mean

Deleted · April 13, 2015, 11:45:30 PM

Bioware Worst Case Scenario
The game will constantly bash you over the head with feminist Ideology and "male privilage" and "Rape Culture" bullshit

The story will be about how toxic masculitity is the reason for the war between the Jedi and the Sith

4/6ths of the romance options will be gay, half of the remaining ones will be bisexual, Their sexual preference will be the only charachter trait any of them have. the ones that arent will be unlikable as all fuck, and not chosing a gay romance option will garuntee a bad ending.

Jabba the Hutt will be adjusted to prevent fat shaming

Penalties for killing any female

Naoto · April 13, 2015, 11:56:49 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 13, 2015, 11:35:35 PM

also

how do you know if a character was "shoe-horned in" or not?
if they bring up their sexuality/etc. excessively? i mean, i can see how that would be annoying, but i mean

Assuming you're asking me?

Shoehorned just means the character or discussion is out of place and just comes off feeling forced or try hard. If a dialogue is well written and set up then it feels like a natural discussion you'd expect people to have with one another based on the current circumstances in the game.

Referencing gender/sexuality/race constantly and bringing up talking points in an attempt to convey a lesson to the player (one that they most likely are not in need of) just doesn't make for an engrossing plot.

More often than not bioware games feel like they're reaching to comment on external issues at the cost of the game it self.

Mattie G Indahouse · April 14, 2015, 06:05:14 AM

Quote from: Naoto on April 13, 2015, 11:56:49 PM

Shoehorned just means the character or discussion is out of place and just comes off feeling forced or try hard. If a dialogue is well written and set up then it feels like a natural discussion you'd expect people to have with one another based on the current circumstances in the game.

I know there's more character to her than this but in Fallout New Vegas there's that NCR lesbian sniper. To me the "tall blond and female" thing seems out of place.

Nick McIntyre · April 14, 2015, 06:20:31 AM

Quote from: Comet on April 13, 2015, 07:06:37 PM

pff who cares if they cant even write a decent ending anymore?

They seem to be....slowly improving?

I mean, Inquisition's ending was fucking bad, but not ME3 bad.