This is why Mods are the best thing to happen to gaming.

Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 12:23:49 AM

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on March 31, 2015, 12:16:56 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:12:04 AM
Quote from: Saleem on March 31, 2015, 12:10:10 AM
Are you the kind of guy that cooks ramen just with the flavor packet?

What's wrong with throwing something extra in there to make it better?
food is food
video games are art

If the fact that I can drop from a UNSC frigate in a Drop Pod then land in the middle of a shit stain insurrectionist town so I can mow them down with my Battle Rifle cackling isn't considered High Art, then I don't know what is.

You make it sound so black and white. The UNSC aren't all sunshine and rainbows.

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:24:41 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:22:08 AM

But you're not though. Nobody is forcing the mods on you. You can choose to play however you want.

Mods are just someone else's artistic expression being built upon a canvas that has been provided by the developers

and that's fine, and i respect that

the only reason i posted what i did was because of the OP's statement
"mods are the best thing to happen in gaming"

i strongly disagree--i think they're one of the worst things

Kernel Kraut · March 31, 2015, 12:25:52 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:23:49 AM

Quote from: Kernel Kraut on March 31, 2015, 12:16:56 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:12:04 AM
Quote from: Saleem on March 31, 2015, 12:10:10 AM
Are you the kind of guy that cooks ramen just with the flavor packet?

What's wrong with throwing something extra in there to make it better?
food is food
video games are art

If the fact that I can drop from a UNSC frigate in a Drop Pod then land in the middle of a shit stain insurrectionist town so I can mow them down with my Battle Rifle cackling isn't considered High Art, then I don't know what is.
You make it sound so black and white. The UNSC aren't all sunshine and rainbows.

Well of course not, but who else can dress up at space men from space and drop from orbit and operate operationally against filthy rebels?

Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:24:41 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:22:08 AM
But you're not though. Nobody is forcing the mods on you. You can choose to play however you want.

Mods are just someone else's artistic expression being built upon a canvas that has been provided by the developers
and that's fine, and i respect that

the only reason i posted what i did was because of the OP's statement
"mods are the best thing to happen in gaming"

i strongly disagree--i think they're one of the worst things

>hyperbole

Anonymous (User Deleted) · March 31, 2015, 12:26:39 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:01:27 AM

That just means the developers are idiots.

What a complex and nuanced argument, sir.

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM

>hyperbole

i don't even agree with the underlying statement being made that mods are good, though

Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 12:29:47 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
>hyperbole
i don't even agree with the underlying statement being made that mods are good, though

yeah, and we're in agreement that you're just a retard

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:30:31 AM

i enjoy reporting your posts

Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 12:31:17 AM

That's pretty pathetic

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:32:22 AM

so is your strange obsession with me

Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 12:34:57 AM

Don't make yourself blush

Saleem · March 31, 2015, 12:39:04 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:21:29 AM

Quote from: Saleem on March 31, 2015, 12:19:54 AM
"Good artists copy; Great artists steal" comes to mind. Then of course we can say that since the product is now more or less in the public's hands than they can do whatever the fuck they please with their purchase.
that's not the argument

i'm not arguing about your right to mod your games
you can do whatever the fuck you want, you're absolutely right

i'm just saying, i think it's fucking stupid
and i would never do it

Spoiler

10 minutes unsuccessfully trying to find a certain gif aside.

There's the ticket. Pointless argument of the day has been solved, now we may sit on opposite sides of the fence and scowl and one another.

Time for bed.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · March 31, 2015, 12:41:27 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:28:36 AM

Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
>hyperbole
i don't even agree with the underlying statement being made that mods are good, though

Um.

Um...

Uhmm...

UM...

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:43:58 AM

Quote from: Kupo on March 31, 2015, 12:41:27 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:28:36 AM
Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
>hyperbole
i don't even agree with the underlying statement being made that mods are good, though
Um.

Um...

Uhmm...

UM...

Could you get to your fucking point, please? god

Anonymous (User Deleted) · March 31, 2015, 12:45:25 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:43:58 AM

Quote from: Kupo on March 31, 2015, 12:41:27 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:28:36 AM
Quote from: BritishLemön on March 31, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
>hyperbole
i don't even agree with the underlying statement being made that mods are good, though
Um.

Um...

Uhmm...

UM...
Could you get to your fucking point, please? god

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 12:47:51 AM

Cheat · March 31, 2015, 12:59:00 AM

Civility please. Heavy warnings will follow if you keep this fighting up (not the gaming/mod arguments; I'm talking personal attacks).

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · March 31, 2015, 01:05:04 AM

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Girl of Mystery · March 31, 2015, 01:09:45 AM

Quote from: Cheat on March 31, 2015, 12:59:00 AM

Civility please. Heavy warnings will follow if you keep this fighting up (not the gaming/mod arguments; I'm talking personal attacks).

Thanks for the warning

Not Comms Officer · March 31, 2015, 01:37:27 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 30, 2015, 11:47:58 PM

Mods are stupid, though.
Play the game as it was meant to be played, how about?

*runs*

Shut the fuck up Verbatim.

Batch · March 31, 2015, 02:54:44 AM

Dammit I want some sweet Covenant in that and we can make ODST 2 dammit!

I demand it

(also you fools are just feeding Verb, he's retarded, just dont talk to the special kid)

*sips tea*

aREALgod · March 31, 2015, 03:18:14 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 30, 2015, 11:47:58 PM

Mods are stupid, though.
Play the game as it was meant to be played, how about?

*runs*

What about Minecraft? The developers let people mod it and even include many of the mods into official updates for the game

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 03:19:45 AM

if the mods were made into official content, then it's fine

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · March 31, 2015, 03:24:47 AM

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big dog · March 31, 2015, 06:07:22 AM

Quote from: Saleem on March 31, 2015, 12:13:52 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 12:12:04 AM
Quote from: Saleem on March 31, 2015, 12:10:10 AM
Are you the kind of guy that cooks ramen just with the flavor packet?

What's wrong with throwing something extra in there to make it better?
food is food
video games are art
Food can't be art?

Video games can't be food?

Statefarm · March 31, 2015, 06:59:52 AM

People can make some badass stuff without corporate breathing on their shoulder.

Turkey · March 31, 2015, 08:53:16 AM

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Kernel Kraut · March 31, 2015, 02:03:52 PM

Quote from: Batch on March 31, 2015, 02:54:44 AM

Dammit I want some sweet Covenant in that and we can make ODST 2 dammit!

I demand it

(also you fools are just feeding Verb, he's retarded, just dont talk to the special kid)

*sips tea*

Squishy Marine vs 8 Foot tall Elite.

Sounds like a fun time.

Sandtrap · March 31, 2015, 02:18:05 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on March 31, 2015, 03:19:45 AM

if the mods were made into official content, then it's fine

Actually, I've a question. And it relates to inspiration. You are of course, aware that everybody draws inspiration from things correct? And in a fair number of cases, people being inspired by something drives them to create something.

This mod obviously isn't just a simple cosmetic swap. Somebody put a lot of effort into it making it work. And the reason being is, obviosly over the years some Halo fans wanted something like this. But on most accounts, nothing official like this would have ever been released by Bungie or 343.

This is a case of, if you want something done, do it yourself.

And obviously, a team of fans used what they could to do so.

So, my question is. If somebody is inspired enough to put that effort in to mod a game, whether it be for something simple, or whether it's really thorough and well done.

What's wrong with that?

Can't the the mod be completely considered standalone from the actual game, but still appreciated for what it is?

Aka Halo drawing inspiration and design out of Alien, Predator, and Ringworld?

Or for an actual real world concept, the very rockets NASA uses to launch things into space. Their technology was founded upon and expanded greatly by the military.

And the people at NASA, took those foundations and that base, and did something different with it.

Verbatim · March 31, 2015, 02:40:22 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on March 31, 2015, 02:18:05 PM

So, my question is. If somebody is inspired enough to put that effort in to mod a game, whether it be for something simple, or whether it's really thorough and well done.

What's wrong with that?

some graffiti art takes a lot of time and effort to make, and the end result is often beautiful

but it's still graffiti--it's vandalism

it's a little more acceptable for video games in the sense that everyone is entitled to use their own copy of the game for whatever purpose they choose

i'm just saying that i don't personally approve of it
if i was a game developer, and people were putting shit into my game that wasn't intended to be there, i would be offended

because they're not playing the game how i intended it to be played--they're ruining my art for their own entertainment