The purpose of mods

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:10:43 AM

Quote from: Decimator Omega on April 23, 2015, 02:23:41 AM

Don't tell me what to do Verbatim.

I'm not, nor have I ever. I'm simply saying that I think using mods is stupid as fuck.

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Don't like the mods? DON'T DOWNLOAD THEM! DON'T INSTALL THEM! SIMPLE AS THAT!

Why are you telling ME what not to do, now? Especially if it's something that I already don't do.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 22, 2015, 09:59:43 PM

I'm the developer here on this site when it comes to MY content

#deciposting

What you post isn't art.

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NC sucks.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:12:57 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:05:53 AM

Verbatim, please.

Sure, you can have your own personal copy of the art to do whatever the fuck you want with it. That's not my point, though. My point is that modding games is retarded. It's stupid. I'll never do it, and no one else should, either.

why can't you just love the game for what it is

Isara · April 23, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Only games that are loved in the first place get the biggest, and most dedicated modding communities.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:12:57 AM

why can't you just love the game for what it is

Girl of Mystery · April 23, 2015, 09:20:15 AM

Holy shit this thread hurts

Tackel · April 23, 2015, 09:20:17 AM

If you use mods for single players games and for new maps online then you're good. If you use mods to gain an advantage in a competitive online enviroment, the kill yourself.

Isara · April 23, 2015, 09:20:23 AM

Yeah, Verbatim, if you don't have the maturity or the mental capability of having a discussion then you shouldn't even bother. There are other eight billion people out there, each one with their own shit going on.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:12:57 AM

It's stupid. I'll never do it, and no one else should, either.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:21:09 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:18:51 AM

Only games that are loved in the first place get the biggest, and most dedicated modding communities.

Well, that's just a lie. If you loved the game, you wouldn't mod it. Period.

They don't love the game; they love modding the game. Maybe the developers gave them ample opportunity to piss all over their art, and people like that. Well, guess what--I don't.

I think LC said something about only downloading lore-friendly mods earlier, too, and I forgot to touch upon that.

There's no such thing. There are no "lore-friendly" mods. If it wasn't in the game originally, then it's breaking the game's lore. It doesn't matter what it is. If it's a graphics mod, or some kind of mod that fixes a bug, that's still changing the game. You might not consider stuff like that part of the "lore", but I do.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:22:35 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:20:23 AM

Yeah, Verbatim, if you don't have the maturity or the mental capability of having a discussion then you shouldn't even bother. There are other eight billion people out there, each one with their own shit going on.

I've already have how many pages of discussion already? I don't really feel like repeating my arguments because you think you're special.

7.3 billion, by the way.

Isara · April 23, 2015, 09:22:40 AM

Get your sociopathy checked. Adding finality to your opinions doesn't make them the truth.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:21:09 AM

If you loved the game, you wouldn't mod it. Period.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:22:35 AM

I've already have how many pages of discussion already? I don't really feel like repeating my arguments because you think you're special.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:23:49 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:22:40 AM

Get your sociopathy checked.

Get your definition of sociopathy checked.

because... that's not sociopathic
at all

Isara · April 23, 2015, 09:26:09 AM

What is it then?

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:23:49 AM

Get your definition of sociopathy checked.

because... that's not sociopathic
at all

Ásgeirr · April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM

So what if developers encourage modding? Like Bethesda with their dedicated modkit.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:28:04 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:26:09 AM

What is it then?

RATIONAL!

Respectful of art!
Dismissive of iconoclasm!
Maybe a little bit of purism!

Well, I'm definitely a purist--that's why I hate mods so much, because you're literally breaking the fucking game to your whim, and I find that disgusting.

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:28:45 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM

So what if developers encourage modding? Like Bethesda with their dedicated modkit.

then they don't even respect their own art

how can i have any respect for a developer who doesn't even respect his own art

Isara · April 23, 2015, 09:28:47 AM

I am out.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:28:04 AM

RATIONAL!

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:28:45 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
So what if developers encourage modding? Like Bethesda with their dedicated modkit.
then they don't even respect their own art

how can i have any respect for a developer who doesn't even respect his own art

Nick McIntyre · April 23, 2015, 09:29:49 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM

So what if developers encourage modding? Like Bethesda with their dedicated modkit.

And don't forget Bohemia Interactive is actually helping out with the DayZ mod that some schmuck in his basement made.

Girl of Mystery · April 23, 2015, 09:30:04 AM

"i don't agree with modding for whatever convoluted fucking reason and neither should you

cunts"

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:30:24 AM

Quote from: Isara on April 23, 2015, 09:28:47 AM

I am out.

Congratulations--you have contributed absolutely nothing. I'm going to continue hating the fuck out of mods now.

Ásgeirr · April 23, 2015, 09:30:29 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:28:45 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
So what if developers encourage modding? Like Bethesda with their dedicated modkit.
then they don't even respect their own art

how can i have any respect for a developer who doesn't even respect his own art

That really doesnt mean that they dont 'respect their own art'...

Nick McIntyre · April 23, 2015, 09:31:11 AM

Quote from: Lemön | Queen of Anal on April 23, 2015, 09:30:04 AM

"i don't agree with modding for whatever convoluted fucking reason and neither should you

cunts"

But Lemon, art and stuff. ART.

Modding ruins art with....MORE ART!

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:32:46 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:30:29 AM

That really doesnt mean that they dont 'respect their own art'...

By my standards, it does. If I wrote a book, and someone edited it, adding a bunch of My Little Ponies, and tried to publish it? I'm not supposed to take umbrage with that? I'm supposed to LET him to that? I'm supposed to ENCOURAGE that?

Girl of Mystery · April 23, 2015, 09:32:57 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:31:11 AM

Quote from: Lemön | Queen of Anal on April 23, 2015, 09:30:04 AM
"i don't agree with modding for whatever convoluted fucking reason and neither should you

cunts"

But Lemon, art and stuff. ART.

Modding ruins art with....MORE ART!

"Something something you're pissing on art even though you're not. Not even in the slightest"

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:33:48 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:31:11 AM

But Lemon, art and stuff. ART.

Modding ruins art with....MORE ART!

You probably think graffiti is okay, too. JUST because it's pretty.

Nick McIntyre · April 23, 2015, 09:34:08 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:32:46 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:30:29 AM
That really doesnt mean that they dont 'respect their own art'...
By my standards, it does. If I wrote a book, and someone edited it, adding a bunch of My Little Ponies, and tried to publish it? I'm not supposed to take umbrage with that? I'm supposed to LET him to that? I'm supposed to ENCOURAGE that?

You should feel good that your book has a big enough following that people will add their own creations to it for Fanfiction.

Geez, you remind me of George R. R. "Sourpuss" Martin

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:35:17 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:34:08 AM

You should feel good that your book has a big enough following that people will add their own creations to it for Fanfiction.

Why? It's insulting. Not to mention, plagiarism.

Girl of Mystery · April 23, 2015, 09:35:32 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:33:48 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:31:11 AM
But Lemon, art and stuff. ART.

Modding ruins art with....MORE ART!
You probably think graffiti is okay, too. JUST because it's pretty.

Not even remotely the same.
Graffiti covers up whatever it's on. Modding literally affects nobody elses game but your own.

Ásgeirr · April 23, 2015, 09:35:37 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:32:46 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:30:29 AM
That really doesnt mean that they dont 'respect their own art'...
By my standards, it does. If I wrote a book, and someone edited it, adding a bunch of My Little Ponies, and tried to publish it? I'm not supposed to take umbrage with that? I'm supposed to LET him to that? I'm supposed to ENCOURAGE that?

By your standards, okay, well trying to force yours on other people is pointless.

Girl of Mystery · April 23, 2015, 09:36:04 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:35:17 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:34:08 AM
You should feel good that your book has a big enough following that people will add their own creations to it for Fanfiction.
Why? It's insulting. Not to mention, plagiarism.

Literally how?

Verbatim · April 23, 2015, 09:37:04 AM

Quote from: oss on April 23, 2015, 09:35:37 AM

By your standards, okay, well trying to force yours on other people is pointless.

I'm not "forcing" anyone to believe what I believe, though. I don't understand why people keep saying this. You can mod the fuck out of your games--I'm just going to tell you that I think that's stupid.

Nick McIntyre · April 23, 2015, 09:37:28 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 23, 2015, 09:35:17 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on April 23, 2015, 09:34:08 AM
You should feel good that your book has a big enough following that people will add their own creations to it for Fanfiction.
Why? It's insulting. Not to mention, plagiarism.

As an amateur writer, I don't find it insulting if my book gets enough fanfare to the point where people can take characers, places and events from my world and pour their own creative juices in it.