So let's get one thing straight here about Fallout

Luciana · July 12, 2015, 09:42:56 PM

Fallout 3 was good, Skyrim still sets a benchmark for modern games, and Fallout 4 looks to be packed with an obscene amount of content. I'm getting pretty sick of these mopey threads talking about how shitty Fallout 3 was supposed to be, how boring Skyrim is (hint: if you're bored in Skyrim, you're a boring fucking person and there's no fixing that), and how supposedly bad Fallout 4 will be.

BC · July 12, 2015, 09:44:26 PM

Who cares. If you enjoy the game that's all that matters.

True Turquoise · July 12, 2015, 09:45:22 PM

The irony is that most of these people now claiming Skyrim is shallow can look fondly at their 200+ hours of adventuring in a still-true technical benchmark with genre-defining mechanics. It's just silly. Skyrim is, without debate, a ridiculously detailed, expansive, content-filled and organic game. There's a reason that the worst parts of the game are the scripted story pieces, and that's because the game absolutely succeeds at being open-world and player-driven. I'm not even sure what the "depth of a puddle" is referring to. Surely it's not talking about the lore available in the game, or the hundreds of completely optional locations, hundreds of quests followed by procedurally generated quests, or the thorough crafting system? Of course, the game isn't a character-driven vidya novella a la Witcher, but the series never claims to be such. It's a giant fucking world with tons of stuff to do and tons of lore to uncover, and it kicks ass at it.

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Korra · July 12, 2015, 11:31:26 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on July 12, 2015, 09:45:22 PM

The irony is that most of these people now claiming Skyrim is shallow can look fondly at their 200+ hours of adventuring in a still-true technical benchmark with genre-defining mechanics. It's just silly. Skyrim is, without debate, a ridiculously detailed, expansive, content-filled and organic game. There's a reason that the worst parts of the game are the scripted story pieces, and that's because the game absolutely succeeds at being open-world and player-driven. I'm not even sure what the "depth of a puddle" is referring to. Surely it's not talking about the lore available in the game, or the hundreds of completely optional locations, hundreds of quests followed by procedurally generated quests, or the thorough crafting system? Of course, the game isn't a character-driven vidya novella a la Witcher, but the series never claims to be such. It's a giant fucking world with tons of stuff to do and tons of lore to uncover, and it kicks ass at it.

Quoted For Tru

Get it? lol

Batch · July 12, 2015, 11:36:35 PM

I think tru said it well up there, theyre calling it boring now after pumping hundreds of hours into it. That or they're just not giving the game a chance , eg: Verbatim.

maverick · July 12, 2015, 11:49:55 PM

Quote from: Batch on July 12, 2015, 11:36:35 PM

I think tru said it well up there, theyre calling it boring now after pumping hundreds of hours into it. That or they're just not giving the game a chance , eg: Verbatim.

>caring what Verbatim thinks

CyberGama · July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM

Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.

Verbatim · July 13, 2015, 12:20:14 AM

Quote from: Batch on July 12, 2015, 11:36:35 PM

I think tru said it well up there, theyre calling it boring now after pumping hundreds of hours into it. That or they're just not giving the game a chance , eg: Verbatim.

But I have given the game a chance.

Luciana · July 13, 2015, 12:25:14 AM

if you don't like RTS, MMO, or minecraft clones PC has like 2 good exclusives every 10 years. And a logical thinker chooses the platform that best fits them they don't just buy a PC because they heard PC was the mustard rice

Thun · July 13, 2015, 12:40:57 AM

>mustard rice

This can't be a real food, can it?

Tyger · July 13, 2015, 01:40:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 13, 2015, 12:25:14 AM

if you don't like RTS, MMO, or minecraft clones PC has like 2 good exclusives every 10 years. And a logical thinker chooses the platform that best fits them they don't just buy a PC because they heard PC was the mustard rice

for the record that was bait

gats · July 13, 2015, 01:59:43 AM

Agreed. The developers gave you a basic storyline to get you through a couple hours but like pretty much every sandbox open world game you are limited by your creativity.

Luciana · July 13, 2015, 02:03:45 AM

Quote from: Tyger on July 13, 2015, 01:40:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 13, 2015, 12:25:14 AM
if you don't like RTS, MMO, or minecraft clones PC has like 2 good exclusives every 10 years. And a logical thinker chooses the platform that best fits them they don't just buy a PC because they heard PC was the mustard rice
for the record that was bait

and i just loved to nibble

Luciana · July 13, 2015, 02:04:25 AM

you guys aren't getting the joke D:

Mat Cauthon · July 13, 2015, 02:43:24 AM

These copy/pastes are stupid and anyone using them should feel very bad about themselves.

Mattie G Indahouse · July 13, 2015, 05:36:40 AM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM

Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.

Just like how Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.

True Turquoise · July 13, 2015, 05:51:53 AM

Wait, people still think that's me saying it?

Luciana · July 13, 2015, 09:17:04 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on July 13, 2015, 05:51:53 AM

Wait, people still think that's me saying it?

They should know you're not THAT stupid.

True Turquoise · July 13, 2015, 09:21:39 AM

Quote from: Luciana on July 13, 2015, 09:17:04 AM

Quote from: True Turquoise on July 13, 2015, 05:51:53 AM
Wait, people still think that's me saying it?
They should know you're not THAT stupid.

Spoiler

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Hahahaha very funny Zonda · July 13, 2015, 12:13:16 PM

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Coco · July 13, 2015, 12:22:52 PM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM

Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.

Can't be. That was Far Cry.

Turkey · July 13, 2015, 07:14:08 PM

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Miia · July 13, 2015, 09:18:46 PM

Honestly? I personally don't like Fallout 3 but I'm hyped for FO4

CyberGama · July 13, 2015, 09:45:15 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 13, 2015, 05:36:40 AM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
Just like how Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.

Bethesda logic in a nutshell.

CyberGama · July 13, 2015, 09:45:57 PM

Quote from: Cocos on July 13, 2015, 12:22:52 PM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
Can't be. That was Far Cry.

lol, not even close. (or is it) *X-files theme plays*

Mattie G Indahouse · July 14, 2015, 05:24:50 AM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 13, 2015, 09:45:15 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 13, 2015, 05:36:40 AM
Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
Just like how Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.

Bethesda logic in a nutshell.

That probably does explain why the guns in the game feel odd compared to other shooters.

Batch · July 14, 2015, 06:28:06 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 14, 2015, 05:24:50 AM

Quote from: Gama Ray on July 13, 2015, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 13, 2015, 05:36:40 AM
Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
Just like how Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.

Bethesda logic in a nutshell.
That probably does explain why the guns in the game feel odd compared to other shooters.

Firstly, it isnt really their forte', but it seems theyre improving on that. Secondly, youre just a guy, whose given a gun and pushed into a nightmare.....you won't be that great with guns.

I dunno by the endgame you feel pretty confident with guns.

Luciana · July 14, 2015, 10:15:33 AM

Quote from: Batch on July 14, 2015, 06:28:06 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 14, 2015, 05:24:50 AM
Quote from: Gama Ray on July 13, 2015, 09:45:15 PM
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 13, 2015, 05:36:40 AM
Quote from: Gama Ray on July 12, 2015, 11:52:22 PM
Calling it right now. Fallout 4 is going to be Skyrim with guns.
Just like how Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.

Bethesda logic in a nutshell.
That probably does explain why the guns in the game feel odd compared to other shooters.
Firstly, it isnt really their forte', but it seems theyre improving on that. Secondly, youre just a guy, whose given a gun and pushed into a nightmare.....you won't be that great with guns.

I dunno by the endgame you feel pretty confident with guns.

He means the mechanics. They're clunky and weird and if you don't have a PC, you'll be using VATS for almost all fights, and that gets old fast.

That and Fallout 3 didn't even have ADS, which made it worse. Just hipfire with no real crosshairs so it was never accurate, even with 100% in guns or whatever.

T6 · July 14, 2015, 10:31:54 AM

I liked it :c