Since it deserves its own thread, new Ace Combat 7 trailer from E3

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We got our first official gameplay! And the best part? NO DOGFIGHT MODE HELL YES
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what is dogfight mode and why is it bad
It's a mechanic that was introduced in Assault Horizon. Once you get near a jet, you press the QTE to activate DFM and your jet in engaged in a on-rails shooter scenario where your jet is directly behind the jet you targeted with DFM. It's cool to see because you get to see the jets up close in battle which wasn't really done before so you can see the pieces of metal and destruction you cause on the enemy jet and see it fall apart in great detail.

When you're in DFM mode however, your jet is flying by itself automatically and will follow the enemy jet by itself as you have no control except for the guns. Your jet flying itself eliminates the tension and awesome feel you get when playing Ace Combat, as the game is pretty much playing on its own at that point. Also, there's special enemies in the game called Aces who can only be destroyed by using DFM.

Overall, DFM was a neat mechanic from a cinematic viewpoint but was too scripted and relied too much on QTEs instead of giving the player full control.

i hated it and the worst part was the mechanics for it were different in the final boss fight so you had to unlearn what you learnt from dfm to fight the final boss because otherwise you wouldve run out of missiles and made it impossible for yourself to kill him

the most efficient method was to do a horribly scripted sequence for what felt like years, at least dfm before that rewarded efficiency with somewhat decent aim, the last boss threw that out the window by making you wait 5 minutes between every sequence before you pop another shot otherwise he wouldnt take damage and your missiles are sponged; like, dfm was already shit, but they managed to make a shitty unrealistic mechanic play differently at the end of the game in an even shittier, more unrealistic way

QTE isnt a problem if its initiated by the player and they expect it, its a problem when its in the middle of a cutscene youre watching and suddenly you have to press a button and it becomes the worlds worst rhythm game whereas player initiated QTEs are predictable to a degree and wont pop up in the middle of a cutscene youre supposed to be watching; i dont hate QTEs as much as i hate where they end up being used
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We got our first official gameplay! And the best part? NO DOGFIGHT MODE HELL YES
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Wait, so does average game play mostly revolve around just using missiles?

thats how modern jets do things

using the mg is easier in this than real life though



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i hope ac7 doesnt remove the binds for my flight stick like assault horizon does every time i restart the game


 
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i hope ac7 doesnt remove the binds for my flight stick like assault horizon does every time i restart the game
I think Project Aces is completely steering away from everything Assault Horizon had. Earlier I was watching a demo of the same gameplay with one of the guys from Bandai Namco and he didn't even acknowledge Assault Horizon when talking about previous AC games.


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i hope ac7 doesnt remove the binds for my flight stick like assault horizon does every time i restart the game
I think Project Aces is completely steering away from everything Assault Horizon had. Earlier I was watching a demo of the same gameplay with one of the guys from Bandai Namco and he didn't even acknowledge Assault Horizon when talking about previous AC games.
doesnt really address my issue but good


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they even have the camera effect where rotors appear to bend in camera footage



or is that just the shape of the propellers


 
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So when's the next Armored Core game

in development

i'm going to cry if it's their VR game


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So when's the next Armored Core game

in development

i'm going to cry if it's their VR game
tbh I'd rather have Chromehounds 2, but Sega's a shitter so that won't happen.


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Where's the gameplay footage of the pilot puking into a ziplock baggie while over-Ging the plane then having to write a mishap report?


 
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Where's the gameplay footage of the pilot puking into a ziplock baggie while over-Ging the plane then having to write a mishap report?
Motion Sickness is for the weak


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im excited. i just picked up AC6 again to replay it through. fun stuff


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So when's the next Armored Core game

in development

i'm going to cry if it's their VR game

the format could be perfect for vr tbh

any game that would work entirely with a cockpit view would be, like elite dangerous or dirt rally, arguably the best examples of VR integration that fits within the context without sacrificing gameplay elements

both of those games were also made with gameplay in mind before vr implementation
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im excited. i just picked up AC6 again to replay it through. fun stuff
Welcome back


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Went to a local store that sells old games and I found Ace Combat 4, 5, and 6.

I've never played 4 and 5 and those are considered the best ones. Can't wait to try them out.


 
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So when's the next Armored Core game
in the future and it'll be a shitty VR game because it's dead


 
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fuck you
That said, excited


 
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because it's dead

shut your whore mouth


 
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because it's dead

shut your whore mouth
the people will not be silenced


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Is this an anime?
Has American jets in it so its not an anime


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Went to a local store that sells old games and I found Ace Combat 4, 5, and 6.

I've never played 4 and 5 and those are considered the best ones. Can't wait to try them out.

Fucking what, I've been saying Mobius 1 this whole time and you ain't even play the game?


 
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Went to a local store that sells old games and I found Ace Combat 4, 5, and 6.

I've never played 4 and 5 and those are considered the best ones. Can't wait to try them out.
5's theme is arguably the best one in the series.
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Went to a local store that sells old games and I found Ace Combat 4, 5, and 6.

I've never played 4 and 5 and those are considered the best ones. Can't wait to try them out.

Fucking what, I've been saying Mobius 1 this whole time and you ain't even play the game?
My loyalty is to Emmeria


 
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Same gameplay but with developer commentary. Love how passionate this guy is about everything. It's giving me hope that they're doing their best to give us a fantastic game.
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Jono have you ever played Air Force Delta?
Sounds like a shit game


 
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Jono have you ever played Air Force Delta?
Sounds like a shit game
Fuck you that game is shit
I agree wholeheartedly!