Real Talk: What Will Happen If Sony Folds?

big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:19:23 PM

Shit's looking grim for Sony at the moment.

Their gaming division is even hemeroging money at the moment.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2014-05-14-sonys-game-division-reports-full-year-loss

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-05-10-sony-playstation-division-suffers-full-year-USD2-8bn-loss

http://www.vg247.com/2009/10/30/sony-ps-division-has-lost-4-7-billion-since-launching-ps3/

So it's looking like Sony isn't beating that 78% chance of bankruptcy right now and are on their way out. How do you guys think it'll effect the gaming industry if they fold? How will their first party studios get divided up as they're either sold off to MS, Nintendo or other publishers or forced to close their doors due to a lack of buyers?

Sweet Jesus would the death of Sony mean a massive gain in the console market share for MS as Japanese gamers would have to chose between the Xbox and Wii U?

For those of you here that bought the PS4 how do you feel about the very real possibility that support for it may be ending within the next few years?

Personally the reason I didn't hop of the PS4 train was A) Lack of good exclusives and B) the financial situation Sony is in that could mean a premature ending of support for the $400 console I purchased.

Yu · September 29, 2014, 12:22:12 PM

I didn't even realize this was happening, shit and I wanted to get one early next year too, but if this gets worse I might not.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM

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big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM

Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM

I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.

Hahahaha very funny Zonda · September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM

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big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM

Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.

Yu · September 29, 2014, 12:43:07 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM

Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.

Please no, I have been waiting for a good real time battle FF for so long.

big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:44:19 PM

Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:43:07 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.
Please no, I have been waiting for a good real time battle FF for so long.

IIRC isn't it a super casual one button combat system?

Yu · September 29, 2014, 12:45:38 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:44:19 PM

Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.
Please no, I have been waiting for a good real time battle FF for so long.

IIRC isn't it a super casual one button combat system?

I don't even know, but I prefer real time combat for rpgs, especially the Tales series.

big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:50:00 PM

Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:45:38 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.
Please no, I have been waiting for a good real time battle FF for so long.

IIRC isn't it a super casual one button combat system?
I don't even know, but I prefer real time combat for rpgs, especially the Tales series.

Also the teleporting is scripted and you can only do it to pre-approved locations. It's looks to be a FF13 hallway simulator so far.

Yuta don't get your hopes up man. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Yu · September 29, 2014, 12:51:40 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:50:00 PM

Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Yutaka on September 29, 2014, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:42:03 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:35:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: ねこ on September 29, 2014, 12:26:01 PM
I think the Japanese will go for the Wii U heck I think the Wii U is beating the PS4 over there

However if the PS4 is removed from the equation then the only place to play new final fantasy games and other JRPGs that require better hardware than what the Wii U offers will either be the PC or Xbox. Out of the two the Xbox is more likely as the common belief among the Japanese youth is that computers are for school work and porn.
Well that depends if Square Enix decided to make Super Mario RPG Sequel also we still don't know if they would buy an Xbox one for finar fantasy also can you give me an example of an JRPG that is too big for the Wii U to handle? (Not persona 5 because they have a PS3 version)plus them Japs are really into the Monster Hunter series

A terribly optimized FF15 cause Japs can't into optimization.
Please no, I have been waiting for a good real time battle FF for so long.

IIRC isn't it a super casual one button combat system?
I don't even know, but I prefer real time combat for rpgs, especially the Tales series.
Also the teleporting is scripted and you can only do it to pre-approved locations. It's looks to be a FF13 hallway simulator so far.

Yuta don't get your hopes up man. Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

I honestly haven't been keeping up with it too much, it just looks nice. If anything there is always the Tales Series.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · September 29, 2014, 12:57:47 PM

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big sponge · September 29, 2014, 12:58:30 PM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on September 29, 2014, 12:57:47 PM

They'll all finally convert to the PC master race.

Not happening. As I said earlier the Japanese youth believe that PCs are for school work and porn.

Mr. Psychologist · September 29, 2014, 01:01:40 PM

I would be pretty hacked off <.<

I expect that Sony will start doing triage (moreso than currently) and basically just axing large chunks of their business to stay afloat. The PS4 is easily one of their best products out at the minute so I don't think that's going to be on the chopping block anytime soon but I can see things like their Phones/TV/gadgetry going down the black hole soon.

And I would be pretty surprised if the Xbone became a big thing in Grorious Nippon, but then again they think KFC is Christmas Dinner soooo...

.-.

gats · September 29, 2014, 01:04:28 PM

This is very sad news

Mega Sceptile · September 29, 2014, 01:05:18 PM

That would mean Sqenix would finally be able to make Super Mario RPG 2, the sequel everyone wanted after FF was done.

Comet · September 29, 2014, 01:07:58 PM

Quote from: Lord Commissar on September 29, 2014, 12:19:23 PM

For those of you here that bought the PS4 how do you feel about the very real possibility that support for it may be ending within the next few years?

sad. the Smartphone division of Sony should have been downsized and removed before all this shit happened.

Isara · September 29, 2014, 01:08:24 PM

The headlines are exaggerated. The Sony gaming division has done some mistakes during the PS3 time which at its peak had the global economical crisis, and then releasing the PS4 stresses the gaming division even further. We'll need a few more years to actually see if Sony's really done for or not.

Naru · September 29, 2014, 02:00:26 PM

Microsoft must buy it.

Hue

The Waifu Master · September 29, 2014, 02:02:00 PM

Wait, you guys are just finding out about this?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=SNE+Income+Statement&annual
Their income statement has been pretty shit since 2003.

big sponge · September 29, 2014, 02:03:50 PM

Quote from: The Judge on September 29, 2014, 02:02:00 PM

Wait, you guys are just finding out about this?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=SNE+Income+Statement&annual
Their income statement has been pretty shit since 2003.

I'm not, I'm just bringing it up again.

Septy · September 29, 2014, 02:08:54 PM

That's why I bought my Vaio right before they shutdown their computer division.