as a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound card
£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough too
Quote from: rc on April 25, 2016, 10:45:52 AMas a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound cardIsn't audio normally integrated anyway? I'm not a big audiophile so I doubt I could stomach blowing £200+ on a sound card.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:51:03 AMQuote from: rc on April 25, 2016, 10:45:52 AMas a general rule of thumb, you should spend about 35% of your budget on a good sound cardIsn't audio normally integrated anyway? I'm not a big audiophile so I doubt I could stomach blowing £200+ on a sound card.no, it's incredibly important that you spend as much money as possible on the sound card.
I don't think 16gb is worth it. You're better off spending extra on the graphics card.
And get a really expensive case
Quote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?
2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fine
Quote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350
Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:08:31 AM2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.Going by the amount of whining I hear from mustard ricers about SLI not being supported for games properly, I doubt I'll bother with that.What would be the benefits to sticking the OS on an SSD?
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:08:31 AMGet a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.Is there any disadvantage of using just an SSD over having both? I understand the cost of a single large SSD is pretty huueeg, but I'm talking performance wise.
Quote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350what would be the other stuff I'd need to geti'm sure i'm missing something but CPUGPURAMMotherboardHDD/SSDCasePSUor does that cover it?
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350what would be the other stuff I'd need to geti'm sure i'm missing something but CPUGPURAMMotherboardHDD/SSDCasePSUor does that cover it?Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:17:51 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:08:31 AM2 way SLI on your GPUs would be a good idea to balance out the load if one GPU starts handling most of the data. Presuming you go for two graphics cards.Otherwise, 16GB RAM would be better as two 8GB cards.Get a smaller SSD and a larger HDD so you can have your OS on the SSD and your files on the HDD. Best of both worlds.Your CPU will probably want around 4GHz speed. Elsewise, you're best off looking at what games you want to play now (IE Battlefield, Fallout, etc (I'm assuming)) and use them as a baseline for your specs.Going by the amount of whining I hear from mustard ricers about SLI not being supported for games properly, I doubt I'll bother with that.What would be the benefits to sticking the OS on an SSD?It's only relevant if you get two GPUs. With only one, you don't need it. I'd get two regardless if you can. SSDs are a lot faster than disks. If you use it for the OS, your computer performs faster but you store files on a HDD because you get more storage space for the same price.Plus, retrieving two files from two drives is a lot better than two files from one drive, anyway.
Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:39:42 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350what would be the other stuff I'd need to geti'm sure i'm missing something but CPUGPURAMMotherboardHDD/SSDCasePSUor does that cover it?Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:47:31 AMOh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?
Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:46:44 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:39:42 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350what would be the other stuff I'd need to geti'm sure i'm missing something but CPUGPURAMMotherboardHDD/SSDCasePSUor does that cover it?Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.Watercooling you'd have to clean the filters every now and then. Fans I don't think you'd have to do much. I don't rrally know much about that aspect so you'd be best off asking someone else.
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:49:40 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:46:44 AMQuote from: BaconShelf on April 25, 2016, 11:39:42 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:31:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:30:18 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 11:19:58 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 11:16:21 AMQuote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 25, 2016, 10:55:38 AMQuote from: gats on April 25, 2016, 10:50:49 AM£800 for just the machine is p great fam.i dunno about motherboards but you're obviously playing total war so get at least an i7 cpu and a 970 gpu, you can get them in the low £200 if you jew around a little. 16gb ram is enough tooyeah i mean it's gonna clean me out for a while but I think it'll be worth it e.equick look on newegg shows about £220 for the 970 and £240 for the i7 which seems reasonable, iirc the GPU/CPU are the really expensive bits of a computerthat'd leave about £350 for er case, psu, motherboard and the ram right?yeah i think you might be able to squeeze the rest into that. i have a laptop and with it's cpu, gpu and 12gb ram i get 59fps solid on shogun 2 at very high 1080p. also see if you can get a small SSD for the OS that'l help a lot, then for everything else a normal hard drive is fineI mean I can go over that if I need to, but that'd probably mean delaying it by a few weeks, if I hold off for say a month I could bump it up to £1k (ish) but I'd kinda prefer to be able to buy games for it when it's built you know >_>yeah tru tru, i mean from what i've been searching an i5 could do well but i guess wait for some other opinions, you could squeeze in everything to 350what would be the other stuff I'd need to geti'm sure i'm missing something but CPUGPURAMMotherboardHDD/SSDCasePSUor does that cover it?Cooling. CPU Fan, regular fan, heat sinks, watercooling (depending on what you want). Don't want your shit to melt.Ah yeah, which would be the most efficient? and which would be easiest to clean for dust because this house is a bit prone to it.Watercooling you'd have to clean the filters every now and then. Fans I don't think you'd have to do much. I don't rrally know much about that aspect so you'd be best off asking someone else.might just go with a fan thenthe problem with my laptop is I can't really open it up to clean it out so I guess that's less of a problem with a tower