PC build planning - suggestions please

 
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I don't think 16gb is worth it. You're better off spending extra on the graphics card.
looking at it, it's about £60 for 16gb and half that for 8

£30 isn't really gonna make a big jump on a graphics card, because the model above the one I looked at (I think) goes up by a hundred and something
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There's a site called PC part picker or somethin like that where you can get your builds and lists together so you can plan it, cant get the link so I'm on mobile but a google search on the name should bring it up. It's pretty 👌


 
 
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I don't think 16gb is worth it. You're better off spending extra on the graphics card.
looking at it, it's about £60 for 16gb and half that for 8

£30 isn't really gonna make a big jump on a graphics card, because the model above the one I looked at (I think) goes up by a hundred and something
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There's a site called PC part picker or somethin like that where you can get your builds and lists together so you can plan it, cant get the link so I'm on mobile but a google search on the name should bring it up. It's pretty 👌
yeah, planning to use it when i've got a vague idea of what components to actually enter into it lol


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Look at micro-center for some PCs. I got mine there for just $50 more than if I were to build it myself. They can have some really amazing deals. If you are hellbent on build a PC though, then I have a few tips.

- Get a GTX 970 graphics card. It's not as new, so it varies around $350-$600 at the most. It can run all modern games at 1080p 60 FPS. I can run Battlefront at 2K 60 FPS with it and GTA V at a stable 60 FPS.

- Go fans. Fans nowadays a very good and quiet, so they cool at the same amount as water cooling does. Plus, if someone bumps your case for some reason, there's no chance of a pump coming loose and destroying your PC.

- Get a big case with good venting. A big case allows for good air flow and doesn't have your wires all jammed in one area. Giving your components room to breathe allows for better performance.

- Clean your PC every 6 months. If you can put it together, I assume you can clean it. Fans are good, but they build up dust, just just keep it clean.

- Get at least 16 GB of RAM. You'll need it to keep up the next 3 years with gaming.

- Look at the sound card you have on your motherboard. 9/10 it is fine, but you may want to upgrade it if need be.

- i5 processor is enough, but if you want a bit faster computing, go with the i7.

- Get a 250 GB or so SSD in addition to whatever harddrive you buy. Put the operating system on the SSD. This will have your boot times be twice as fast.

Last Edit: April 25, 2016, 01:30:57 PM by Dapper Droid


 
 
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?


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It really depends on what you're going to do with it. The way I see it, your processor and graphics card and RAM are just as important as your sound. You're gonna want an Intel i7 Quad Core for gaming. If you're going to do a lot of rendering, do what I did and go with 16GB of RAM. I have 1TB HDD and I plan on upgrading my Nvidia 550ti Graphics card to a 960 possibly in the near future.

I had this PC since 2012 and it still really good, it runs Windows 10 without any issues. My last computer even with upgrades had trouble running Windows 7.

I'd recommend you browse PC part picker or Newegg if you're going to build one from the ground up. If you don't have the time to build like I didn't, you can always get one pre built and modify it later on yourself.


 
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Buy red and yellow paint to decorate your pc case with flames so it runs faster


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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.


 
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?


 
 
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Buy red and yellow paint to decorate your pc case with flames so it runs faster
brother already has a bunch of paints, i'll nab them and write 'red wunz go fasta' on it too


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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

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threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?

Okay there is a mishap on my part. I mean EVGA for the long run since MSI is also an Nvidia series. Apparently EVGA has better aftermarket support. Mine is an EVGA  Nvidia 550ti.

I'll leave this up to you to decide since some say MSI is better than EVGA and vice versa.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/572726/-which-is-better-quality-evga-or-msi-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760/

As for the motherboard, I do recommend Gigabyte, but I haven't used Asus, in fact I've never even heard of that brand of a motherboard, but I'm biased so... :P


 
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just as important as your sound.
no, like seriously no. i doubt psy is a huge music enthusiast, the motherboards on-board sound shall suffice


 
 
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?

Okay there is a mishap on my part. I mean EVGA for the long run since MSI is also an Nvidia series. Apparently EVGA has better aftermarket support. Mine is an EVGA  Nvidia 550ti.

I'll leave this up to you to decide since some say MSI is better than EVGA and vice versa.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/572726/-which-is-better-quality-evga-or-msi-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760/

As for the motherboard, I do recommend Gigabyte, but I haven't used Asus, in fact I've never even heard of that brand of a motherboard, but I'm biased so... :P
I'll have a look at them, thanks

I literally picked asus because it's part of a cheat code in age of mythology (maybe empires idk) and because i figured i'd need one of them for compatibility checks lol
Gigabyte is fine by me


 
 
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just as important as your sound.
no, like seriously no. i doubt psy is a huge music enthusiast, the motherboards on-board sound shall suffice
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I use £3 earphones plugged into a phone for music on the go

I use a £20 headset for music/games at the PC

and it's pretty much always music from jewtube at 360p so yeah, fancy sound is not a priority for me whatsoever


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Yeah, you will probably never need a sound card if you don't do music. Don't waste your money.


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> suggesting sli with 800 pounds

sli is useless

next year or two there will be a card the same power as both those cards combined and have better support, and it would cost less
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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
not really, it puts more stress on the memory controller in the cpu, it isn't just 2 water pipes means water flows faster, effectively the chef will have to work on 2 smaller tables rather than one larger one

realistically you wont see the difference


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just as important as your sound.
no, like seriously no. i doubt psy is a huge music enthusiast, the motherboards on-board sound shall suffice

Alright well if he wants to later on he can always add one.


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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?
ram across all manufacturers pretty much perform the same within the same speed bracket

also you might have to choose between DDR4 and DDR3 since skylake is in the picture now, they don't officially support DDR3 but some motherboard manufacturers say they do

intel themselves have said it's not recommended to use DDR3 on a skylake motherboard but its upto you, i havent seen any big problems with people using it yet


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unless you have a pair of $300 headphones most modern integrated audio is more than adequate


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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?

Okay there is a mishap on my part. I mean EVGA for the long run since MSI is also an Nvidia series. Apparently EVGA has better aftermarket support. Mine is an EVGA  Nvidia 550ti.

I'll leave this up to you to decide since some say MSI is better than EVGA and vice versa.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/572726/-which-is-better-quality-evga-or-msi-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760/

As for the motherboard, I do recommend Gigabyte, but I haven't used Asus, in fact I've never even heard of that brand of a motherboard, but I'm biased so... :P

EVGA cards are usually more expensive, and they do supposedly have better customer support

that said you'll only really need customer support if there's something wrong with your card

I'm also surprised you haven't heard of ASUS, they're a pretty big name for laptops, GPUs and motherboards especially, and they're pretty high up on customer support ratings

other than that no GPU will be particularly different from any reseller, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, EVGA, Gigabyte, they'll all perform identical

also have a look at the GPU coolers if you're not planning to have any watercooling (which is probably not suitable for your budget), you'll either get a blower or open-air, open-air is generally quieter and better at keeping your GPU cool, blowers are usually loud but overall the computer will be cooler on the inside as it also acts as an outtake


 
 
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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?
ram across all manufacturers pretty much perform the same within the same speed bracket

also you might have to choose between DDR4 and DDR3 since skylake is in the picture now, they don't officially support DDR3 but some motherboard manufacturers say they do

intel themselves have said it's not recommended to use DDR3 on a skylake motherboard but its upto you, i havent seen any big problems with people using it yet
Skylake?

again I'm quite open to whatever components will work best, if DDR4 is better and the price difference is reasonable then I'm happy to go for that.


 
 
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

hope the link works

threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?

Okay there is a mishap on my part. I mean EVGA for the long run since MSI is also an Nvidia series. Apparently EVGA has better aftermarket support. Mine is an EVGA  Nvidia 550ti.

I'll leave this up to you to decide since some say MSI is better than EVGA and vice versa.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/572726/-which-is-better-quality-evga-or-msi-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760/

As for the motherboard, I do recommend Gigabyte, but I haven't used Asus, in fact I've never even heard of that brand of a motherboard, but I'm biased so... :P

EVGA cards are usually more expensive, and they do supposedly have better customer support

that said you'll only really need customer support if there's something wrong with your card

I'm also surprised you haven't heard of ASUS, they're a pretty big name for laptops, GPUs and motherboards especially, and they're pretty high up on customer support ratings

other than that no GPU will be particularly different from any reseller, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, EVGA, Gigabyte, they'll all perform identical

also have a look at the GPU coolers if you're not planning to have any watercooling (which is probably not suitable for your budget), you'll either get a blower or open-air, open-air is generally quieter and better at keeping your GPU cool, blowers are usually loud but overall the computer will be cooler on the inside as it also acts as an outtake
A GPU cooler in addition to the standard fan?


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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/XHM2K8

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threw that together with some of the suggestions ITT (i7/970 etc) but the rest is pretty much chosen off review tier and best guesses

price estimate on that isn't gonna be right either because there is already a hundred quid saved by buying the CPU/GPU off newegg so eh

thoughts/revisions?

I would swap 2 things. Motherboard would be Gigabyte brand instead of Asus and I'd swap MSI with Nvidia personally. Otherwise you have a pretty decent setup.
I'm quite fine with any switches, whatever ends up with a better PC at the end of it.

What would be the difference between an MSI and a Nvidia 970? I thought it was all nvidia anyway?

Okay there is a mishap on my part. I mean EVGA for the long run since MSI is also an Nvidia series. Apparently EVGA has better aftermarket support. Mine is an EVGA  Nvidia 550ti.

I'll leave this up to you to decide since some say MSI is better than EVGA and vice versa.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/572726/-which-is-better-quality-evga-or-msi-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760/

As for the motherboard, I do recommend Gigabyte, but I haven't used Asus, in fact I've never even heard of that brand of a motherboard, but I'm biased so... :P

EVGA cards are usually more expensive, and they do supposedly have better customer support

that said you'll only really need customer support if there's something wrong with your card

I'm also surprised you haven't heard of ASUS, they're a pretty big name for laptops, GPUs and motherboards especially, and they're pretty high up on customer support ratings

other than that no GPU will be particularly different from any reseller, ASUS, Palit, Zotac, EVGA, Gigabyte, they'll all perform identical

also have a look at the GPU coolers if you're not planning to have any watercooling (which is probably not suitable for your budget), you'll either get a blower or open-air, open-air is generally quieter and better at keeping your GPU cool, blowers are usually loud but overall the computer will be cooler on the inside as it also acts as an outtake

Water cooling would be risky, but I do have the ports to set that up.


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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
not really, it puts more stress on the memory controller in the cpu, it isn't just 2 water pipes means water flows faster, effectively the chef will have to work on 2 smaller tables rather than one larger one

realistically you wont see the difference
absolutely false. two sticks is actually faster than a single stick.


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Oh, in regards to RAM. If you're going for 16GB, get two 8GB sticks. It'll be a bit better for the same reasons as the hard drive thing.
Yeah that would have been my intention, the corsair 16gb pack (2x8gb) seems to be pretty highly reviewed across the board. Is that a good one to go for?
ram across all manufacturers pretty much perform the same within the same speed bracket

also you might have to choose between DDR4 and DDR3 since skylake is in the picture now, they don't officially support DDR3 but some motherboard manufacturers say they do

intel themselves have said it's not recommended to use DDR3 on a skylake motherboard but its upto you, i havent seen any big problems with people using it yet
Skylake?

again I'm quite open to whatever components will work best, if DDR4 is better and the price difference is reasonable then I'm happy to go for that.

It's not but DDR4 is the new memory standard for the latest intel architecture