What do you mean by the technical side?
Fallout 4 has lip synching?Could've fooled me...Animations are perfectly fine though, aside from the game just being wonky at times which is to be expected when they have to cover such a large amount of interactables for more than one situation and (no matter how slight) varying body types.
Quote from: Byrne on November 20, 2015, 06:57:20 PMFallout 4 has lip synching?Could've fooled me...Animations are perfectly fine though, aside from the game just being wonky at times which is to be expected when they have to cover such a large amount of interactables for more than one situation and (no matter how slight) varying body types.Animations are fine? Sorry but no. Improved from Fallout 3 and Skyrim sure. But still not on the level on some other games. Again. Witcher 3 included. They're stiff. Just look at the crowd of people at the beginning of the game running to Vault 111. It looks so bad. It's stiff, like they went out of still mode to running mode. There's no weight to it. They don't move convincingly. In an age where games have motion capture this isn't acceptable. Look at GTAV, The Last Of Us, MGSV. Games like that.
Quote from: Josh55886 on November 20, 2015, 07:01:11 PMQuote from: Byrne on November 20, 2015, 06:57:20 PMFallout 4 has lip synching?Could've fooled me...Animations are perfectly fine though, aside from the game just being wonky at times which is to be expected when they have to cover such a large amount of interactables for more than one situation and (no matter how slight) varying body types.Animations are fine? Sorry but no. Improved from Fallout 3 and Skyrim sure. But still not on the level on some other games. Again. Witcher 3 included. They're stiff. Just look at the crowd of people at the beginning of the game running to Vault 111. It looks so bad. It's stiff, like they went out of still mode to running mode. There's no weight to it. They don't move convincingly. In an age where games have motion capture this isn't acceptable. Look at GTAV, The Last Of Us, MGSV. Games like that.They are fine.I never said they were good or that Bethesda did a good job with them. But for the game it is, for the content it has and the Dev's track record.They're fine.
To be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.
fallout 4 is perfect shush the witcher 3 is terrible what were projekt red even thinking
Quote from: Bacon on November 20, 2015, 06:56:55 PMTo be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.The map has locations(caves, buildings, nests, treasure) all over the place, and usually you can barely go around in the wild for 30 seconds without running into something. Hell, there's even the partial skull of a dragon that's mentioned in some of the side quests out in some swamps. I don't know where someone would get the idea that the world is empty.
To be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it.
Quote from: Essessen on November 20, 2015, 07:29:13 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 20, 2015, 06:56:55 PMTo be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.The map has locations(caves, buildings, nests, treasure) all over the place, and usually you can barely go around in the wild for 30 seconds without running into something. Hell, there's even the partial skull of a dragon that's mentioned in some of the side quests out in some swamps. I don't know where someone would get the idea that the world is empty.Yeah. The Witcher 3 is far from empty. I do enjoy exploring in Fallout 4 more. But as far as quests go. The Witcher 3 shits all over it. The writing is just better plain an simple.
Quote from: Josh55886 on November 20, 2015, 07:32:49 PMQuote from: Essessen on November 20, 2015, 07:29:13 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 20, 2015, 06:56:55 PMTo be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.The map has locations(caves, buildings, nests, treasure) all over the place, and usually you can barely go around in the wild for 30 seconds without running into something. Hell, there's even the partial skull of a dragon that's mentioned in some of the side quests out in some swamps. I don't know where someone would get the idea that the world is empty.Yeah. The Witcher 3 is far from empty. I do enjoy exploring in Fallout 4 more. But as far as quests go. The Witcher 3 shits all over it. The writing is just better plain an simple.Those feelings I got when I was at that orphanage in the swamp. SpoilerWhen you go there one of the kids makes a comment about the Barron's wife crying every time a kid gets lost in the swamp. Due to drowners being everywhere I figured a kid wonders out and they get them, but nope. Latter on the whole point of the trail of treats is to bait in kids for the Barron's wife to take care of them just so they could be eating. God damn those feelings when you look back on that comment that kid made. Every time the women cries due to a kid being lost in the swamp. She is actually crying because a kid she was "taking care of" ended up getting eating but those witches.
Quote from: BerzerkCommando on November 20, 2015, 07:44:42 PMQuote from: Josh55886 on November 20, 2015, 07:32:49 PMQuote from: Essessen on November 20, 2015, 07:29:13 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 20, 2015, 06:56:55 PMTo be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.The map has locations(caves, buildings, nests, treasure) all over the place, and usually you can barely go around in the wild for 30 seconds without running into something. Hell, there's even the partial skull of a dragon that's mentioned in some of the side quests out in some swamps. I don't know where someone would get the idea that the world is empty.Yeah. The Witcher 3 is far from empty. I do enjoy exploring in Fallout 4 more. But as far as quests go. The Witcher 3 shits all over it. The writing is just better plain an simple.Those feelings I got when I was at that orphanage in the swamp. SpoilerWhen you go there one of the kids makes a comment about the Barron's wife crying every time a kid gets lost in the swamp. Due to drowners being everywhere I figured a kid wonders out and they get them, but nope. Latter on the whole point of the trail of treats is to bait in kids for the Barron's wife to take care of them just so they could be eating. God damn those feelings when you look back on that comment that kid made. Every time the women cries due to a kid being lost in the swamp. She is actually crying because a kid she was "taking care of" ended up getting eating but those witches.SpoilerYeah. First time through when I found that tree spirit. I was like, well this guy seems evil. But the Witches trapped him here, so maybe he'll kill them. And he said he'd save the children. So I freed him. Next thing I know. He destroyed an entire village and killed everyone in it. Downwarren I think. I was like, well that was a mistake. Then The Barron hangs himself. Was like, the fuck. Fuck this game. On my NG+ playthrough, which I'm still far from finishing, I killed him this time. Ends much better that way. The kids were eaten. But at least Donwarren and the Barron are safe.
Fallout 4 animations are ass.
Quote from: Josh55886 on November 20, 2015, 08:07:33 PMQuote from: BerzerkCommando on November 20, 2015, 07:44:42 PMQuote from: Josh55886 on November 20, 2015, 07:32:49 PMQuote from: Essessen on November 20, 2015, 07:29:13 PMQuote from: Bacon on November 20, 2015, 06:56:55 PMTo be fair, most accounts I've heard of TW3 have more or less agreed that while the game world is pretty, there's not much to fill it. I haven't played the game (not really interested), so I can't really say more than that.However, I am glad Bethesda spent more time including the gameplay in Fallout and adding stuff like weather systems, as opposed to just fancy graphics. My only real gripe for Fallout on the technical is the 30fps framerate on consoles.The map has locations(caves, buildings, nests, treasure) all over the place, and usually you can barely go around in the wild for 30 seconds without running into something. Hell, there's even the partial skull of a dragon that's mentioned in some of the side quests out in some swamps. I don't know where someone would get the idea that the world is empty.Yeah. The Witcher 3 is far from empty. I do enjoy exploring in Fallout 4 more. But as far as quests go. The Witcher 3 shits all over it. The writing is just better plain an simple.Those feelings I got when I was at that orphanage in the swamp. SpoilerWhen you go there one of the kids makes a comment about the Barron's wife crying every time a kid gets lost in the swamp. Due to drowners being everywhere I figured a kid wonders out and they get them, but nope. Latter on the whole point of the trail of treats is to bait in kids for the Barron's wife to take care of them just so they could be eating. God damn those feelings when you look back on that comment that kid made. Every time the women cries due to a kid being lost in the swamp. She is actually crying because a kid she was "taking care of" ended up getting eating but those witches.SpoilerYeah. First time through when I found that tree spirit. I was like, well this guy seems evil. But the Witches trapped him here, so maybe he'll kill them. And he said he'd save the children. So I freed him. Next thing I know. He destroyed an entire village and killed everyone in it. Downwarren I think. I was like, well that was a mistake. Then The Barron hangs himself. Was like, the fuck. Fuck this game. On my NG+ playthrough, which I'm still far from finishing, I killed him this time. Ends much better that way. The kids were eaten. But at least Donwarren and the Barron are safe.For the Fyke Isle's quest I love that there's an ending where you majorly fucked up. You think you're doing the right thing at first but in the end you ended up getting used. Then there's that Elf girl at the well which is getting harassed. If yo go in and drive the guys off you get bitched at by her because of you being a white knight. In the end what she said is true due to you not doing anything at all to put a stop to it. Back to the kids at the swamp the developers did a darker version of Hansel & Gretel and then there's Bethesda who turned the kids at megaton into potted plants if you detonated the nuke. Anybody that says this game is empty or a disappointment has no idea at all what they're talking about. When it comes to a story there's a shit load of quest endings and there's even details about the littlest of things. Which would be things like some of the vendors having a little back story to them. Yes in Skyrim there's some vendors you learn something about, but it's just in a single sentience unlike this game which is slightly more. The vendors in this game have about as much backstory to them as what the followers in Fallout 3 and Skyrim have.
No middle ground right?lol
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you say
Quote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?stop
Quote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:42:13 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 09:39:51 PMQuote from: LC on November 20, 2015, 09:31:26 PMQuote from: (´e ω e`) on November 20, 2015, 08:59:59 PMNo middle ground right?lolThe middle ground doesn't always exist. If someones wrong they're wrong.Wow...whatever you sayTo use an extreme (yet wholly unrealistic) example that easily illustrates the point that I'm trying to get across.Obama is a dirty muslim that wants to exterminate all white life on the planet.Where is the middle ground?The middle ground in that statement is that the people who believe that don't trust Obama who are ill informed. The middle ground being that Obama needs to show he is in fact trust worthy and that the nay-sayers need to give him a chance. Obama can't go doing all willy-nilly expecting people to accept everything he does, nor can those people assume that he is an anti-white muslim.See, middle ground. Effort from both sides.
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