One thing to add to what Sandtrap is saying, it doesn't need to be that over the top, if you know what Spartans are capable of, why are you accepting that bullshit when you know they can do things just as cool with the same amount of flair and still have it fit with their known abilities?

All that trailer is, is 343 pandering to the drones who just want to see explosions and shaky cam.

Its also not every spartan they're trying to make look over the top here, they're trying to make Locke look cool, different and strong just to make him seem cool like ch33f.

Its just a 'WOAH LOOK AT THIS FUCKING MONKEY HES SMASHING SHIT AND SHIT I WANT TO DO THIS TOO'

It's not a 'this is what Spartans do now' I'd wager he wont do any of that shit in the game.

We've already seen what Spartans can do via the beta.

Its also not every spartan they're trying to make look over the top here, they're trying to make Locke look cool, different and strong just to make him seem cool like ch33f.

Its just a 'WOAH LOOK AT THIS FUCKING MONKEY HES SMASHING SHIT AND SHIT I WANT TO DO THIS TOO'

It's not a 'this is what Spartans do now' I'd wager he wont do any of that shit in the game.

We've already seen what Spartans can do via the beta.

This.

They're making Locke look like a strong adversary that'll smack Chief's average ass around a bit.

Well CGI and all this fancy shit is where most games are going now.

You still have old games to go back to if that bothers you.

Which is, frankly, what I've done these days.

I've not bought into any bullshit. The last most recent game I purchased was fucking Dark Souls II.

And it's already at least a year and a half old.

I'm not going to play the game and buy into garbage with an alluring coat of paint on it. But what I will do, is complain and say that it's bullshit.

Because the less people there are buying into the bullshit, the more chance there is of us actually getting something that's the truth. That's not an overflair and over exageration of a watered down product.

Gaming exists in the state its in today, because gamers let it exist that way.

If nobody buys your shit product and puts their foot down, then that's cause for alarm. That's cause for actually thinking and making something worth buying, and showing that what you've made is worth buying.

But no.

The young entitlement generation of 420 yolo quickscoping faggots sucks down whatever army gruel and pig shit you feed them.

And because they're the majority, companies use their trends and examples as their foundation.

In which case, their fucking foundations are wrong.

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Quote from: True Turquoise on April 20, 2015, 12:26:12 PM

Its also not every spartan they're trying to make look over the top here, they're trying to make Locke look cool, different and strong just to make him seem cool like ch33f.

Its just a 'WOAH LOOK AT THIS FUCKING MONKEY HES SMASHING SHIT AND SHIT I WANT TO DO THIS TOO'

It's not a 'this is what Spartans do now' I'd wager he wont do any of that shit in the game.

We've already seen what Spartans can do via the beta.

This.

They're making Locke look like a strong adversary that'll smack Chief's average ass around a bit.

I think what's being argued is that they're going too far. Locke looks like he's reaching some Superman/Neo level of shit here.

And I agree this is too far, its cool but too far indeed, like I said.


They are just pushing this character as much as they can, they don't care, they want people to like him. This is all it is. It's also to get people to pre-order because somebody, I'm betting, would say 'Oh if I pre-order this I can do that shit like him and I can look like him because that was cool' It's not a matter of 'hey look, Spartans can do this'. It's just them trying their hardest to make Locke look better than everyone else.

And yes. No fucking way could a normal spartan do that shit, maybe the flips but not the smashing through damn buildings.

TEAM JACOB

You see this trailer Lemon?

This is arguably, how you do proper hype. This is a trailer that has flair to it, that sense of over exageration, but at the same time, it's feasible.

It has roots in the respective universe it sits in. And while being all CGI, it still conveyed things we did in the game. And it built excitement.

You see chief in a downed state. You automatically worry because again, Chief, to us, normally, is indestructable. We've never seen him falter, never seen him truly fail.

And then he gets back up. And he covers that ground to the wraith like an olympic athlete. Extreme speed is conveyed in those shots. And we see Chief jumping and using his own heavy mass to target and land on the biggest threat in the middle of danger.

While being CGI bullshots, they weren't complete bullshots, with no base to them. This trailer, built hype, had a sense of flair to it, and yet it still had roots. It had a proper foundation.

Not rose tinted glasses here either. That trailer is how you properly build hype.

It's got flair. But it's still grounded.

Sandtrap.


That trailer was the shit. Back then. Yes, why? Because It's chief. He was untouchable back then, nothing could fuck him over.

Whats this new one showing? That Locke is now untouchable, he is now the shit, Locke has, in most things he's been shown in, showed he's super efficient at what he does, like a certain Super solider we all know and love, but that certain solider has only really been shown beaten up, down on the ground or almost dead. This is them showing that a fresh new Spartan is what the Chief used to be, its showing that Chief is getting tired, losing his touch, growing 'old' its HYPING THE FUCKING CHARACTER.


Yes, that 'trailer' was absurd, yes it was just a HEY KIDS LOOK AT THIS SUPER MAN GUY. Lemon isn't trying to say LOL THIS IS AMAZING I HOPE THIS IS HALO 5, He just likes the look of Locke, as he's stated many MANY times before.

Sandtrap.


That trailer was the shit. Back then. Yes, why? Because It's chief. He was untouchable back then, nothing could fuck him over.

Whats this new one showing? That Locke is now untouchable, he is now the shit, Locke has, in most things he's been shown in, showed he's super efficient at what he does, like a certain Super solider we all know and love, but that certain solider has only really been shown beaten up, down on the ground or almost dead. This is them showing that a fresh new Spartan is what the Chief used to be, its showing that Chief is getting tired, losing his touch, growing 'old' its HYPING THE FUCKING CHARACTER.


Yes, that 'trailer' was absurd, yes it was just a HEY KIDS LOOK AT THIS SUPER MAN GUY. Lemon isn't trying to say LOL THIS IS AMAZING I HOPE THIS IS HALO 5, He just likes the look of Locke, as he's stated many MANY times before.

But it's baseless. It's a baseless god damn selling point.

And from a character standpoint, it's disrepecting. I like the looks of Locke as well. And I hope he's got a good contrast in the story and games as a character.

But there's better ways to show off a character and build hype for the character themselves than just making them superman. I dunno, maybe show his fucking character.

He's ONI. ONI agents do shady things.

Show him doing shady, controversial things. If you really want to build a character up as the fresh new guy on the block, then how about they actually show some new character over what we have now.

Chief could loosely be considered as "God."
And Locke, from this trailer, would be "Better God."

Some real fucking shining development there.

Also, How does Shittrap not realize that this is a gamestop trailer to show off the armor?

Well that doesn't look generic at all....

Also, How does Shittrap not realize that this is a gamestop trailer to show off the armor?

1. We've already seen the shit out of Locke's armour already

2. Locke was going superman speeds so we only got a few shots of him posing, mainly his helmet, which is what we've already seen

3. Show off what armour? That you can do all this cool shit if you buy it at gamestop?

Even as a gamestop trailer it doesn't seem to know what the fuck its doing.

For some comparison, this was the Halo Reach Gamestop pre-order trailer.

Quote from: Sandtrap on April 20, 2015, 01:09:05 PM

Quote from: True Turquoise on April 20, 2015, 01:02:02 PM

Sandtrap.


That trailer was the shit. Back then. Yes, why? Because It's chief. He was untouchable back then, nothing could fuck him over.

Whats this new one showing? That Locke is now untouchable, he is now the shit, Locke has, in most things he's been shown in, showed he's super efficient at what he does, like a certain Super solider we all know and love, but that certain solider has only really been shown beaten up, down on the ground or almost dead. This is them showing that a fresh new Spartan is what the Chief used to be, its showing that Chief is getting tired, losing his touch, growing 'old' its HYPING THE FUCKING CHARACTER.


Yes, that 'trailer' was absurd, yes it was just a HEY KIDS LOOK AT THIS SUPER MAN GUY. Lemon isn't trying to say LOL THIS IS AMAZING I HOPE THIS IS HALO 5, He just likes the look of Locke, as he's stated many MANY times before.

But it's baseless. It's a baseless god damn selling point.

And from a character standpoint, it's disrepecting. I like the looks of Locke as well. And I hope he's got a good contrast in the story and games as a character.

But there's better ways to show off a character and build hype for the character themselves than just making them superman. I dunno, maybe show his fucking character.

He's ONI. ONI agents do shady things.

Show him doing shady, controversial things. If you really want to build a character up as the fresh new guy on the block, then how about they actually show some new character over what we have now.

Chief could loosely be considered as "God."
And Locke, from this trailer, would be "Better God."

Some real fucking shining development there.

Sandtrap, you're not wrong. Like hardly wrong here at all, But this is just showing off Armour, and shoving this character further down our throats.

As I said to Star.

We've already seen Locke's armour from multiple trailers. So really, no, this trailer isn't showing off his armour. It's showing off what people are going to want to feel when they have it.

Like superman since the trailer was founded on it.

And it's not even shoving his character down our throats because there's not even a character in this trailer.

It's bullshit. It's shitty bait tactics. And it's fucking tiresome.

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Quote from: oss on April 20, 2015, 01:14:51 PM

I think its insulting. Theyre clearly catering for the younger audience with this and other shit.

But ten year olds LOVE power rangers

Locke is living his dream as a power ranger

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Was about to post what Nagato linked


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