"I'll Keep Coming." | Death Stranding, A Kojima Productions Thread

 
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1. Yes, I agree the sandbox in MGSV is empty if you're not in an enemy base. This works in favour for the maps, though. I don't expect Afghanistan to be overly populated.

Africa suffers, to be sure.


2. Yes, the narrative is bad in MGSV. Or, worse than previous games.


However, my point was, that neither are connected. The narrative isn't bad because of the open-world, and the open-world isn't bad because of the narrative.


 
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I'd really love to respond Aria but I'm in class right now. I'm at my most eloquent on a desktop, so give me a few hours.


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1. Yes, I agree the sandbox in MGSV is empty if you're not in an enemy base. This works in favour for the maps, though. I don't expect Afghanistan to be overly populated.

Africa suffers, to be sure.


2. Yes, the narrative is bad in MGSV. Or, worse than previous games.


However, my point was, that neither are connected. The narrative isn't bad because of the open-world, and the open-world isn't bad because of the narrative.
Wasn't saying that it was. The open world is poor because it's empty, and the narrative is weak because it's sparse. Correlation =/= causation.

And Afghanistan isn't exactly empty, ESPECIALLY North Kabul. There's a lot of animal life especially that is lacking.
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Correlation =/= causation.

Yeah, you weren't saying that. Luciana was, though, and that's what I was arguing.

I was not trying to insinuate that you thought one caused the other.

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There's a lot of animal life especially that is lacking.

When I think desert, I don't exactly picture lots of flora and fauna. But I could be wrong.


 
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I still love MGSV tho

I still maintain that it has the best gameplay in the series.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Correlation =/= causation.

Yeah, you weren't saying that. Luciana was, though, and that's what I was arguing.

I was not trying to insinuate that you thought one caused the other.

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There's a lot of animal life especially that is lacking.

When I think desert, I don't exactly picture lots of flora and fauna. But I could be wrong.
There's a reason Kabul is an inhabited area, and that's because it isn't completely desert. There are pieces of land that are grassy and support life, which is even shown in the game in some areas. They just didn't put anything in those areas besides rocks, a couple of trees, and maybe a shep or two.


 
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What would you like them to fill those areas with, out of curiousity?


 
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I'd rather stick to Gaming or this thread, people are mean in Offtopic :(

My philosophy as well.

Ideally we should have groups where we can talk about anything we want, and we can weed out the cancer of our forum.

Or they can make an Offtopic forum in addition to Flood, with shitposting being relegated to the latter.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
What would you like them to fill those areas with, out of curiousity?
Make trees purposeful, similarly to MGS3. More animal life, like MGS3. Use them tactically, such as poisoning guards, like MGS3.

I'm not saying that MGS3 was perfect, but there are so many mechanics that would have made the map much better. I'm not saying you should be stepping over wildlife in every step; the areas of the map that are entirely sand are fine as they are. The map is fine, I just wish they would have actually used it for more than going from point A to point C. It defeats the purpose of going open world if you are just going to keep making games with a linear goal in mind.
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Afghan belongs to the nords
You mean Sunni Muslims.


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What would you like them to fill those areas with, out of curiousity?

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I wish MGSV had a photo mode where you could pause the game and rotate the camera aound Snake and take cool screenshots and shit.


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Yeah, you weren't saying that. Luciana was, though, and that's what I was arguing.
I was arguing the pacing of the story was fucked due to it being a sandbox that doesn't guide you down narrow paths. That's it. Aria put it into better words than I did, but the point I was making, I feel still stands.

http://i.imgur.com/jVFaujX.png

And that's all I will say on this. Ffs.
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I was arguing the pacing of the story was fucked due to it being a sandbox that doesn't guide you down narrow paths.

And again, you've failed to demonstrate exactly how the pacing is affected directly by the sandbox.

I've said multiple times that I agree, the pacing does feel off in The Phantom Pain. But I don't blame the sandbox for it, especially since the sandbox gameplay is inarguably what makes TPP the great game that it is.


 
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I wish MGSV had a photo mode where you could pause the game and rotate the camera aound Snake and take cool screenshots and shit.

Yeah, me too.

I doubt we'll get much post-launch support all things considered.


 
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What would you like them to fill those areas with, out of curiousity?
Make trees purposeful, similarly to MGS3. More animal life, like MGS3. Use them tactically, such as poisoning guards, like MGS3.

I'm not saying that MGS3 was perfect, but there are so many mechanics that would have made the map much better. I'm not saying you should be stepping over wildlife in every step; the areas of the map that are entirely sand are fine as they are. The map is fine, I just wish they would have actually used it for more than going from point A to point C. It defeats the purpose of going open world if you are just going to keep making games with a linear goal in mind.

Excellent, we agree.


 
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Yeah, the story is a bit meh since 90% of story driven dialogue seems to be in the cassette tapes and I'm feeling some repetitiveness  (though I'm still technically in the beginning, I just rescued Huey) from completing a mession, then hopping onto the chopper to go to another mission, rinse and repeat.

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